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08-29-2010, 12:09 AM
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If Svatos signed for under $1 million I don't see what the Pens have to lose. If he works out great, if not play some rookies.

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I'd give him 500k, He's not going to get anywhere close to 1 million.

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Really? They're chasing Svatos when they could've tried for Stempniak?

Svatos hasn't played more than 69 games in the NHL (I think) in a single season.

Stempniak steals games intermittently.

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08-29-2010, 07:43 AM
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Really? They're chasing Svatos when they could've tried for Stempniak?

Svatos hasn't played more than 69 games in the NHL (I think) in a single season.

Stempniak steals games intermittently.
Salary cap.

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Actually dupuis got most of his goals as well as his points with staal and not with crosby even though he spent most of the year with 87. So saying he's been a fixture with 87 is a misconception, i saw this off an article from an Altoona newspaper when he threw the first pitch for the Curve that night.
Is his heater anything like his slapper?

I picture 101 on the gun, people ducking behind their seats, and a few bricks missing out of the backstop.

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Svatos seems like a good candidate for a training camp try out, a la Adam Hall a couple seasons ago.

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Can Avs fans fill me in on his scoring drought?

I know he's got skill, but could you chalk it up to a Frolov/Brunnstrom situation playing in the bottom 6?
L is for lady like
A is for apathetic
Z is for zero work ethic
Y is for you don't want him.

or how about this

1 is for the amount of games he'll actually do something good

d is for "damn it Svatos get off the ice"
i is for "is he really a hockey player or.."
m is for many **** ups
e is for "either way he's in Europe NEXT season"
n is for never again... never again
s is for sucks.
i is for isn't good anywhere except 1 on 1 ... 1/10 times
o is for overhyped
n is for nuttin but... nothing
a is for absolutely no need to sign him
l is for LAZY

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L is for lady like
A is for apathetic
Z is for zero work ethic
Y is for you don't want him.

or how about this

1 is for the amount of games he'll actually do something good

d is for "damn it Svatos get off the ice"
i is for "is he really a hockey player or.."
m is for many **** ups
e is for "either way he's in Europe NEXT season"
n is for never again... never again
s is for sucks.
i is for isn't good anywhere except 1 on 1 ... 1/10 times
o is for overhyped
n is for nuttin but... nothing
a is for absolutely no need to sign him
l is for LAZY
How long did it take you to come up with that?

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Really? They're chasing Svatos when they could've tried for Stempniak?

Svatos hasn't played more than 69 games in the NHL (I think) in a single season.

Stempniak steals games intermittently.
Svatos seems likely to be a training camp invite who would make a bare-bones salary if he gets offered a deal...really the only option for the Penguins to do in a capped league if they want to have spare players...which they do. Godard is a necessity in the NHL and Shero has always carried 7 defenders in case of a game-day emergency.


Stempniak isn't going to come that cheap, when he signs I'd imagine it will be for thrice the price that Svatos would be signing for...or the difference between allowing us to have Godard and a spare defenseman on the roster.

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Anyone trying to chalk up Svatos' woes up to not being given a good enough shot outside of the bottom six just hasn't watched very many avalanche games.

First of all, Svatos was never very fast he was just quick footed, meaning he was shifty and could kind of catch players off guard with a good move. A couple injuries later and he can't skate in a straight line very fast, let alone cut around defenders.

Svatos was never a sniper and he never had a good shot from any further than maybe the hashmarks, usually missing the net by a large distance, hell he was never even good on the shootout. All he was ever good for was picking up rebounds around the goalie.

Svatos could never create a rush, but for some reason after being injured that's all he wanted to do. Perhaps trying to show he shouldn't have been demoted, he would take the puck and attempt end to end rushes, usually losing the puck at the offensive blue line and then falling down, sometimes leaving the ice with another injury at this point.

For those of you saying he'll easily put up 30 goals on a line with Crosby...you're dreaming. I could see maybe 15 or so at best, but he's going to be the kind of guy that is going to cause Penguins fans to rip their hair out if he's given and sort of substantial top line time, he's just brutal out there now.

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Sounds like an injury-prone version of Michel Ouellet. Yikes. I'm still on board with giving him a camp tryout. Can't hurt to at least look at him.

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I think Pens fans all agree we wish for more than Svatos but we are desperate and would just like him invited to camp to see what he can do.

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08-29-2010, 01:26 PM
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500K for 1 year of Svatos
500K for 1 year of Cheechoo

Small risk high reward for the wings. Who knows...maybe Svatos can stay healthy on a new team, Gaborik did, and maybe for some freak crazy luck Crosby can find Cheechoo's 50 goal's again. Svatos 25 with Malkin. I they both suck it is only 1M combined, just give them to our AHL team.

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Lol Cheechoo is done.

I was thinking Kariya could be a good fit with the Pens, too bad he's already said he won't be playing this year.

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Really? They're chasing Svatos when they could've tried for Stempniak?

Svatos hasn't played more than 69 games in the NHL (I think) in a single season.

Stempniak steals games intermittently.
Stempniak was also a ghost in Toronto while getting every possible chance to succeed. People see what he did in Phoenix and I think that's getting into there heads...

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Lol Cheechoo is done.
Now you know our winger situation.

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Salary cap.
I think Pitt would be able to entice Stempy to take a one year deal for $1.5-2M.

Reasons for him to sign:
Chance at the cup
Playing on an elite center's wing will allow him to pad his stats more than last year and get even more in free agency the next summer.

Sell it to him as an investment and a chance at the cup and he might take the deal.

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Stempniak was also a ghost in Toronto while getting every possible chance to succeed. People see what he did in Phoenix and I think that's getting into there heads...
I did say "intermittently". Plus that Toronto squad was god awful. Good players with no chemistry.

Like it or not what he did in phoenix was very impressive.

Also, OH MY GOD IT'S MANBEARPIG, IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US

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08-29-2010, 05:28 PM
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I like Svatos i pretty sure that someone said he plays a little like Max Afinogenov did. Right now I will take anyone who has top 6 potiental on the Pens. My list for avaliable fowards is

1. Stempniak
2. O'Sullivan
3. Comrie
4. Svatos
5. Wellwood


Our options now really look like this. Because Karyia said hes not playing this year Guerin isnt going to be a penguin next year and i dont want Owen Nolan. So if we get Stempniak ill be extremly happy and anyone else ill be good with that. Cheechoo wouldnt be bad either at 500k to maybe revamp up his 50 goal year with a good center.

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08-29-2010, 05:30 PM
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L is for lady like
A is for apathetic
Z is for zero work ethic
Y is for you don't want him.

or how about this

1 is for the amount of games he'll actually do something good

d is for "damn it Svatos get off the ice"
i is for "is he really a hockey player or.."
m is for many **** ups
e is for "either way he's in Europe NEXT season"
n is for never again... never again
s is for sucks.
i is for isn't good anywhere except 1 on 1 ... 1/10 times
o is for overhyped
n is for nuttin but... nothing
a is for absolutely no need to sign him
l is for LAZY
I agree Svatos is not a versatile player, but he is the farthest thing from lazy. He was a very niche player, and needed to have someone else on his line to draw the defensive fire so he could sneak in close. After his injuries, he couldn't adapt his skillset to his new abilities (reduced mobility, slower reflexes.) Svatos was always a guy who needed to be lightning-quick, he wasn't strong enough to fight for position, his shot wasn't accurate enough to compensate for well-positioned defenders, and he didn't have enough hockey sense to be in the right place at the right time enough to put up decent points. With the cumulative effect of injuries, he couldn't fit into another mold.

He's got a really good work ethic, I don't know where your opinion stems from, would you care to elaborate? It sounds like you're confusing a lack of ability to finish, in Svatos, with a lack of effort, which results in reduced results, such as we saw in Wolski. halfway competently, then trip over himself and cough up the puck.

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ONLY if it's a 2 way contract.

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unrelated, but, since someone brought up cheechoo, would the pens consider owen nolan? seems like it could be a good fit, especially if they're looking at these guys.

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Now that Stempniak signed with the Coyotes, who would be a better fit?

O'Sullivan or Svatos



I get the feeling that the consensus will be POS

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Really? They're chasing Svatos when they could've tried for Stempniak?

Svatos hasn't played more than 69 games in the NHL (I think) in a single season.

Stempniak steals games intermittently.
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