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06-01-2004, 10:10 PM
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Habs Active Draftee Team

According to The Hockey News, this would be the Habs' lineup if you include only Montreal Canadiens draft picks. Only active players are included:

LW:

Darcy Tucker (151st, 1993)
John LeClair (33rd, 1987)
Brian Savage (171st, 1991)
Valeri Bure (33rd, 1992)

C:

Saku Koivu (21st, 1993)
Craig Conroy (123rd, 1990)
Mike Ribeiro (45th, 1998)
Andrew Cassels (17thm 1987)

RW:

Michael Ryder (216th, 1998)
Arron Asham (71st, 1996)
Turner Stevenson (12th, 1990)
Jason Ward (11th, 1997)

D:

Mathieu Schneider (44th, 1987)
Eric Desjardins (38th, 1987)
Chris Chelios (48th, 1981)
Patrice Brisebois (30th, 1989)
Andrei Markov (162nd, 1998)
Craig Rivet (68th, 1992)

G:

José Théodore (44th, 1994)
Tomas Vokoun (226th, 1994)

Pretty good team if you ask me . what do you think?


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Not that impressive actually!!

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According to The Hockey News, this would be the Habs' lineup if you include only Montreal Canadiens draft picks. Only active players are included:

LW:

Darcy Tucker (151st, 1993)
John LeClair (33rd, 1987)
Brian Savage (171st, 1991)
Valeri Bure (33rd, 1992)

C:

Saku Koivu (21st, 1993)
Craig Conroy (123rd, 1990)
Mike Ribeiro (45th, 1998)
Andrew Cassels (17thm 1987)

RW:

Michael Ryder (216th, 1998)
Arron Asham (71st, 1996)
Turner Stevenson (12th, 1990)
Jason Ward (11th, 1997)

D:

Mathieu Schneider (44th, 1987)
Eric Desjardins (38th, 1987)
Chris Chelios (48th, 1981)
Patrice Brisebois (30th, 1989)
Andrei Markov (162nd, 1998)
Craig Rivet (68th, 1992)

G:

José Théodore (44th, 1994)
Tomas Vokoun (226th, 1994)

Pretty good team if you ask me . what do you think?

I prefer the team we have now over that one any day and some fans still think montreal still lost out on talent ya they did but we didn't really have that good of a draft record until recently any wxzazmyp!!m,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx

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RW:

Michael Ryder (216th, 1998)
Arron Asham (71st, 1996)
Turner Stevenson (12th, 1990)
Jason Ward (11th, 1997)
Ouch

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The defence on the all draft team is better, albeit a much older group, and the centres are better as well, but I would much rather have the group of wingers we have now over the draft group. Goaltending is a tad better in the draft group, as there is no way that a guy can argue that Garon at this point is better than Vokoun.

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The defence on the all draft team is better, albeit a much older group, and the centres are better as well, but I would much rather have the group of wingers we have now over the draft group. Goaltending is a tad better in the draft group, as there is no way that a guy can argue that Garon at this point is better than Vokoun.

Anyway, Garon could be on the team

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I think our current team is a lot better.

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Not a bad team, not strong on the RW (typically a much stronger position on teams these days). D and G are fine, but the team would not be built for the future as many of those guys are close to hanging them up. Probably still not a contender, so we would have wallowed in that "we have to win now" mentality that supporters of other older teams currently face. I much prefer the feeling we have now of knowing that the future isn't too bad at all.

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Anyway, Garon could be on the team
...as #3.

Just think a couple of years ago the goaltending tandem would of been Patrick Roy and Jose Theodore, with Vokoun and Garon in the minors.

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Not a bad team, not strong on the RW (typically a much stronger position on teams these days). D and G are fine, but the team would not be built for the future as many of those guys are close to hanging them up. Probably still not a contender, so we would have wallowed in that "we have to win now" mentality that supporters of other older teams currently face. I much prefer the feeling we have now of knowing that the future isn't too bad at all.

Well

Ryder,
Higgins
Ribieiro
Komisarek
Kastsitsyn
Perezhogin
Plekanec
Hainsey
Markov

are all Habs draftee... so our youth would be the same

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Not a bad team, not strong on the RW (typically a much stronger position on teams these days). D and G are fine, but the team would not be built for the future as many of those guys are close to hanging them up. Probably still not a contender, so we would have wallowed in that "we have to win now" mentality that supporters of other older teams currently face. I much prefer the feeling we have now of knowing that the future isn't too bad at all.
I understand this is hockey's future but what's wrong with a 'we have to win now' mentality ? Sure the Leafs are old & when the downside will come, it will hit them hard but they are very competitve since 1998-99 (103,98,100,90,100,97 pts) that's 6 GREAT years of hockey !!

Detroit are now in their 13th consecutive GREAT YEARS of hockey because of the win now mentality. I would trade all the Komisarek's & the draft pick we had in the last 6 years to get the half of what the DETROIT REDWINGS franchise give to their fans.

Everything comes in a cycle. We will have our we have to win now mentality sooner or later. Now one can expect to have 25 years in row of 90 pts.

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I understand this is hockey's future but what's wrong with a 'we have to win now' mentality ? Sure the Leafs are old & when the downside will come, it will hit them hard but they are very competitve since 1998-99 (103,98,100,90,100,97 pts) that's 6 GREAT years of hockey !!

Detroit are now in their 13th consecutive GREAT YEARS of hockey because of the win now mentality. I would trade all the Komisarek's & the draft pick we had in the last 6 years to get the half of what the DETROIT REDWINGS franchise give to their fans.

Everything comes in a cycle. We will have our we have to win now mentality sooner or later. Now one can expect to have 25 years in row of 90 pts.

Yeah but the Wings developped their key players before getting into the win now mentallity(Lidstrom, Yserman, Fedorov). The leafs didnt, they only have Sundin(which they traded for). We've got to developp a solid core before getting into the win now mentality.

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Yeah but the Wings developped their key players before getting into the win now mentallity(Lidstrom, Yserman, Fedorov). The leafs didnt, they only have Sundin(which they traded for). We've got to developp a solid core before getting into the win now mentality.
I agree that the Wings development program was better than Toronto's but still , they both got great years to their fans & it's sad to see that they would lost that credibility because they are old.

It's more like the Svitov - Sydor trade. If Svitov turn out to be a really good hockey players for 10 years, people will say TB got screw because Svitov was a young prospect & couldn't care less if TB wins the CUP & Sydor was a part of it.

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I agree that the Wings development program was better than Toronto's but still , they both got great years to their fans & it's sad to see that they would lost that credibility because they are old.

It's more like the Svitov - Sydor trade. If Svitov turn out to be a really good hockey players for 10 years, people will say TB got screw because Svitov was a young prospect & couldn't care less if TB wins the CUP & Sydor was a part of it.

I'm not against the win now mentality, but I'd rather see a good mix of players rather then a team full of FAs and traded players like TO. That'll get you nowhere(also shown by Philly year in and year out). Teams that win the cup have developped their great players(DET, COL, DAL, NJ, And now CGY or TB) AND given their fans great years, in fact, much longer and a lot less disapointing then TO. TO is the worst team to look up to in the entire NHL with Chicago.

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I understand this is hockey's future but what's wrong with a 'we have to win now' mentality ? Sure the Leafs are old & when the downside will come, it will hit them hard but they are very competitve since 1998-99 (103,98,100,90,100,97 pts) that's 6 GREAT years of hockey !!
I have no problem at all with that mentality, it is just that the lineup above would not be good enough to win. Secondly, it would likely get tougher for that team as far too many of those guys would be packing it in shortly, so the team would be squandering the chance to get one last cup out of the elders.

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I agree that the Wings development program was better than Toronto's but still , they both got great years to their fans & it's sad to see that they would lost that credibility because they are old.
Both teams have been near the top of the league in salary,with them both in the $70M's this past season. The Habs are not able to play in that league, so our old guys (as per the above lineup) would not be as good as the old guys on the teams with more cash. Money does not always guarantee on-ice success (case in point NYR), but it has helped teams like Detroit and Toronto field competitive teams for a nice stretch of years, despite natural turnover in their players. They just buy more.

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