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09-07-2010, 07:20 PM
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You don't draft by position in the NHL. You take the best available player. When you're drafting 20+, the organization doesn't need anything that the draft can offer.
strongly disagree..sure edmonton didn't care if hall was LW / C / or RW but teams certainly draft for their needs. Example us this year taking coyle over etem even though etem was widely considered a better player. Coyle, however, began to fill our need for 2 way wingers with size and top 6 potential

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strongly disagree..sure edmonton didn't care if hall was LW / C / or RW but teams certainly draft for their needs. Example us this year taking coyle over etem even though etem was widely considered a better player. Coyle, however, began to fill our need for 2 way wingers with size and top 6 potential
Etem probably wasnt on the Sharks' draft board (not a two-way forward). If he was, SJ would have selected him since he fell into our lap (He was a projected top-15-20 pick). Coyle was most likely the top player on the Sharks' draft board - he looks like he might be the better player anyways.

Pick the BPA. Pittsburgh didnt pass on Malkin to pick Mike Green/Cam Barker/Mark Streit (best defenseman taken in that draft), just because they already had selected Crosby. You don't pass on the BPA for a positional need IMO.

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Pick the BPA. Pittsburgh didnt pass on Malkin to pick Mike Green/Cam Barker/Mark Streit (best defenseman taken in that draft), just because they already had selected Crosby. You don't pass on the BPA for a positional need IMO.
Well... Malkin is kind of a separate case. You don't really pass on a generational player.

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strongly disagree..sure edmonton didn't care if hall was LW / C / or RW but teams certainly draft for their needs. Example us this year taking coyle over etem even though etem was widely considered a better player. Coyle, however, began to fill our need for 2 way wingers with size and top 6 potential
Yes, teams do it but it's dependent on their situations. A team in the last third of the draft order shouldn't be one of those teams. That team's goal should be the Cup and not filling an organizational need that is irrelevant to the result of the pro team and especially if it means taking a worse player.

A team in the Sharks position should be focused on taking the best prospect available as it will give them the highest possible trade value and not worried about having certain players in their prospect pool. The only time the Sharks need to do that is if they trade up in the 1st round for a specific player that they plan to use in the short-term. Considering their history, they shouldn't hold someone like Coyle or whoever they end up picking with their 20+ picks to do that.

And really, in general, the only time a team should draft by position is if they feel two players are equal but play different positions.

One instance where it bit the Sharks in the ass was in 2003. They drafted the guy that would make the NHL the quickest in Michalek...not the best. And they passed on Phaneuf, Suter, Coburn, Carter, Parise, Seabrook, and Brown. All of them even at the time were argued to be better selections but needed time whereas Michalek was close to a completed product.

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Edit: shoulda read page two.

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