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07-21-2012, 12:29 AM
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Hitch was hired on November 6th. Elliott had started 6 *** games to that point so I guess your definition of a "having a lights out season" differs from mine.

The point isn't that Elliott can't play well in spurts, that's not a secret. He did it here on multiple occasions. The point is that if he has to carry the load for an extended period, he breaks down or loses focus or whatever his problem is and craps out. That's why they sheltered the hell out of him in St Louis and had him play in less games than many backups. His numbers were great but so were Halak's. And when the playoffs started, despite his amazing stats, the team went with Halak (which appeared to be the right decision given how terrible he was when he was forced in because of Halak's injury).

His own team clearly didn't trust him to carry the load so why should anyone here think any differently?
6 games doesn't a career make, but it's a decent enough sample size to say that his seasons wasn't because of Hitchcock. He and Halak had awesome seasons. Nobody is saying he can carry the load himself.

I like them as a tandem. With Halak starting in the playoffs because Elliott can't seem to figure it out.

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Hitch was hired on November 6th. Elliott had started 6 *** games to that point so I guess your definition of a "having a lights out season" differs from mine.

The point isn't that Elliott can't play well in spurts, that's not a secret. He did it here on multiple occasions. The point is that if he has to carry the load for an extended period, he breaks down or loses focus or whatever his problem is and craps out. That's why they sheltered the hell out of him in St Louis and had him play in less games than many backups. His numbers were great but so were Halak's. And when the playoffs started, despite his amazing stats, the team went with Halak (which appeared to be the right decision given how terrible he was when he was forced in because of Halak's injury).

His own team clearly didn't trust him to carry the load so why should anyone here think any differently?
He played 38 games. They didn't really shelter the hell out of him.

Only Tampa (Roloson) and Edmonton (Khabibulin) had their 2nd goalies playing more
gaems than Elliott did. Both played 40 games. And they started out as #1 goalies but regressed throughout the season. They also had only as many games as Elliott because the were pulled out of the game or the team's other goalie was pulle dout during the game, thus increasing the number of games played.

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He played 38 games. They didn't really shelter the hell out of him.

Only Tampa (Roloson) and Edmonton (Khabibulin) had their 2nd goalies playing more
gaems than Elliott did. Both played 40 games. And they started out as #1 goalies but regressed throughout the season. They also had only as many games as Elliott because the were pulled out of the game or the team's other goalie was pulle dout during the game, thus increasing the number of games played.
Regardless, 38 games aren't starting goalie numbers. He was in a platoon where the other guy played more than he did. He was sheltered. His numbers were what they were because he played as little as he did. And despite having all these eye-popping stats, he sat on the bench when the important games arrived. This turned out to be the right decision evidently because Halak was great in the playoffs until getting hurt and when Elliott got in, he couldn't carry the load.

Put Elliott back here with the style of hockey the Sens play and have him start the number of games Anderson did and you'll see the exact same Elliott we saw the previous season when split between Ottawa and Colorado.

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Regardless, 38 games aren't starting goalie numbers. He was in a platoon where the other guy played more than he did. He was sheltered. His numbers were what they were because he played as little as he did. And despite having all these eye-popping stats, he sat on the bench when the important games arrived. This turned out to be the right decision evidently because Halak was great in the playoffs until getting hurt and when Elliott got in, he couldn't carry the load.

Put Elliott back here with the style of hockey the Sens play and have him start the number of games Anderson did and you'll see the exact same Elliott we saw the previous season when split between Ottawa and Colorado.
Elliott's 6 games isn't a meaningful sample size, but Halak's one and a half playoff games is?

Elliott's year here was awful, partly because of the Sens, mostly because he completely sucked. His year last year was superb, partly because of the Blues, mostly because he was playing lights out hockey.

Who knows what he'll do next year, or if he'll ever figure it out in the playoffs.

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