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09-10-2010, 02:36 PM
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Its not disingenuous, unless you want to call Zus our 2nd line center.
... Whatever. Did Handzus play over 35% of his shifts on the wing, like Sharp did??? No. It's not a valid comparison.


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09-10-2010, 02:39 PM
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... Whatever. Did Handzus play over 35% of his shifts on the wing, like Sharp did??? No. It's not a valid comparison.
No, but Stoll spent a good chunk time on the wing this last season.

But you missed the point, the point is what Bunny said, matchups, and Bolland gets matched up against the other teams top centers, like Zus... because he is their checking line center, like Zus, also known (generally speaking), as the third line center. like Zus, even though Bolland got more ice time, like Zus.

Not to mention, Madden was the 4th line center, Kopecky, while he can play center, played more wing on the 3rd and 4th line. Sharp is their second line center, even if he spent some time on wing.


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09-10-2010, 03:36 PM
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... Whatever. Did Handzus play over 35% of his shifts on the wing, like Sharp did??? No. It's not a valid comparison.
So the other "approximately" 65% of Sharp's shifts were at Center? Meaning he spent fat more time at center than at wing.

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he certainly didn't play there with any regularity at any point last season. He played there from time to time during the season while Bolland was hurt
I'd call more than 60% regularity. But I don't know, what do you call it?


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09-10-2010, 03:44 PM
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Stoll moving to Handzus' wing didn't even last 5 games IIRC.

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Shooting %
Handzus 17.1
Parse 14.1
Kopitar 13.1
Simmonds 12.6
Doughty 11.3
Smyth 10.7
Frolov 10.4
Stoll 9.8
Brown 9.7
Don't wanna start a fight here...............

but i can't understand how you guys can be happy with pairing these guys together and add another player with an even lower %.
These % have something to do with having a playmaker or not.

serious........

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Don't wanna start a fight here...............

but i can't understand how you guys can be happy with pairing these guys together and add another player with an even lower %.
These % have something to do with having a playmaker or not.

serious........
These guys shoot the puck a lot. When you are not the highest skilled passer, how do you create scoring chances?

You get a guy in front, throw the puck at the net and look for tips and rebounds. That's how it works for some lines, and quite often those kind of lines are very effective.

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So the other "approximately" 65% of Sharp's shifts were at Center? Meaning he spent fat more time at center than at wing.



I'd call more than 60% regularity. But I don't know, what do you call it?
It's in the range of regularity. But if we are talking about something else, that isn't good regularity.

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09-10-2010, 04:14 PM
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How did the Schenn injury thread tun into the thread about shooting percent?

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How did the Schenn injury thread tun into the thread about shooting percent?
Because it is a look at our 2nd and 3rd center options, exactly where Schenn is expected to slot in.

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Correct, if he misses camp, he is going back.
Wouldn't that be a blessing to us Wheaties fans.

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So much for Schenn being out for months.

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Kings say Schenn's knee has no structural damage and he's day to day. Also, teubert (thunb) won't participate in rookie camp.

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So much for Schenn being out for months.

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I wonder if he'll be ready to rock for the Kings camp in what 7-10 days?

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I wonder if he'll be ready to rock for the Kings camp in what 7-10 days?
8 days.

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So much for Schenn being out for months.
Plan the parade! (2013)

see, I can overreact both ways

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It was probably the same tweak he suffered during the WHL playoffs. Hopefully he'll be skating in main camp.

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These guys shoot the puck a lot. When you are not the highest skilled passer, how do you create scoring chances?

You get a guy in front, throw the puck at the net and look for tips and rebounds. That's how it works for some lines, and quite often those kind of lines are very effective.
This isn't that easy.

Brown has nobody who matches his speed so he is always alone and is forced to shoot.
Stoll has no offensive skills and doesn't know what he should do so he is shooting because everyone tells him so and convince him he has a great shot.

But this isn't the point.......... my point is there is no playmaker on this line.
There is absolute no sense in putting these 2 players on one line.

Brown needs at least one guy who has same speed and playmaking skills
and Richardson is the only one i know on this team.
With Brown and Richardson it wouldn't matter who is the 3rd guy.

I would put Schenn on this line just to learn a flashy attacking style game.
We have pefect defense pairing in one offense and one stay at home defender to make up for mistakes.

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Fabulous news. Sounds like he will be able to participate in camp still, which is huge and should help his development immensely.

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It was probably the same tweak he suffered during the WHL playoffs. Hopefully he'll be skating in main camp.
We can always pitch in and buy him a knee brace, or buy a box of tape.

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day to day but I'd prefer they take a couple extra days... Just to be sure!

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This isn't that easy.

Brown has nobody who matches his speed so he is always alone and is forced to shoot.
Stoll has no offensive skills and doesn't know what he should do so he is shooting because everyone tells him so and convince him he has a great shot.

But this isn't the point.......... my point is there is no playmaker on this line.
There is absolute no sense in putting these 2 players on one line.

Brown needs at least one guy who has same speed and playmaking skills
and Richardson is the only one i know on this team.
With Brown and Richardson it wouldn't matter who is the 3rd guy.

I would put Schenn on this line just to learn a flashy attacking style game.
We have pefect defense pairing in one offense and one stay at home defender to make up for mistakes.
I would be ok with Richardson playing LW on that line, but it kind of sounds like Parse is going to get the opportunity to see what he can do there first. Your hatred for Stoll isn't going to keep him out of the top six, at least not at the start of the season.

Great news regarding Schenn. No need to rush it kid. Just make sure you are 100% when you step on the ice.

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This isn't that easy.

Brown has nobody who matches his speed so he is always alone and is forced to shoot.
Stoll has no offensive skills and doesn't know what he should do so he is shooting because everyone tells him so and convince him he has a great shot.

But this isn't the point.......... my point is there is no playmaker on this line.
There is absolute no sense in putting these 2 players on one line.


Brown needs at least one guy who has same speed and playmaking skills
and Richardson is the only one i know on this team.
With Brown and Richardson it wouldn't matter who is the 3rd guy.
I would put Schenn on this line just to learn a flashy attacking style game.
We have pefect defense pairing in one offense and one stay at home defender to make up for mistakes.

So you're saying Stoll can stay if Richardson is the other wing right?

Seriously though Stoll isn't going anywhere as you much as you wish he would. I do agree with you on Stoll and Brown together but what other options are there?

Parse-Stoll-Brown: is far too shot-first mentality for my liking and lacks a playmaker.
Richie-Stoll-Brown: Richardson has never proven to be a scorer in the NHL but is gritty. But that's not something this line needs.
Poni-Stoll-Brown: is just kind of a meh line skill-wise and i think Poni fits better with Zues and Simmonds.

There is no real reason to break up Zues and Simmonds since mesh so well together, and moving Stoll to the wing is eliminating him from taking draws...

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