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09-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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Burke on PTS - Sept 8th

Did anyone listen to the interview? I was waiting 2 hours to here, and then I get an *** phone call just when it starts.

Anything interesting said?

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09-08-2010, 04:42 PM
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oops, nvm....i guess he's up next. I could have sworn I heard his voice during the phone call

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09-08-2010, 04:44 PM
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Please give a synopsis of the interview if you can. I'm at home, but I'm heading out in a few minutes.

Thanks.

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what is pts

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09-08-2010, 04:50 PM
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Burke - believes Liambus has the hockey skill to be a Marlie(duh)
- thinks the hit was "largely" clean. Just has disasterous consequences.
- wasn't a problem player outside of this incident
- isn't a thug, good two-way player with leadership skills
- thinks the IHL suspension was a reputation suspension
- was about to bring him in to play for the Marlies before the IHL incident

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09-08-2010, 04:54 PM
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-Talks about the Kovy contract, backs Lou, and says things were missed in the cba. You need to be creative with these contracts.
-GMs are clear around the league of whats acceptable
-Is Mike Liambas skilled enough to play at the AHL level? Yes, yes he is. He is an honors student, he isnt a thug. He has 2-way skills, and deserves a second chance.
-The hit (in his opinion) was clean, with unfortunate circumstances. Wasnt jumping, moving his feet, player hit steel not glass.
-Bob: At the very least this hit is charging, and he had 180 Pims, how isnt that a goon. Brian: Obviously we agree to disagree, we are bringing him as a hard nose player. Other gms share same thought, some dont understand why he was suspended.
-Bob and him big time disagree with Mike's skills and past suspensions

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What a waste of an interview, IMO. Liambas isn't good enough to warrant that much focus. They only covered two topics.

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09-08-2010, 05:02 PM
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It was in the final segment which is unfortunate. Much shorter than other segment timeslots.

However, note, that hour is played to everyone in the radio network. 95% of out of Toronto listeners dont give a **** about the Leafs. They focused on the two subjects that other's 'may' care about and were more hockey issues than leaf issues.

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09-08-2010, 05:16 PM
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Someone should ask Brian Burke about his definition of a "two-way player". 124 career OHL games, 5 goals, 8 assists, 357 PIMs, -21.

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Someone should ask Brian Burke about his definition of a "two-way player". 124 career OHL games, 5 goals, 8 assists, 357 PIMs, -21.
Burke would tell them there's more to hockey than stats.

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Burke would tell them there's more to hockey than stats.
Great cliche. Although hockey stats don't capture everything, they do capture offensive production reasonably well. It's hard to imagine that a player who has averaged about 0.1 points per game is nevertheless a good offensive player (a two-way player is a player who has both a good defensive and a good offensive game).

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Great cliche. Although hockey stats don't capture everything, they do capture offensive production reasonably well. It's hard to imagine that a player who has averaged about 0.1 points per game is nevertheless a good offensive player (a two-way player is a player who has both a good defensive and a good offensive game).
Now, do we suppose that Bourke is delusional and really believes the kid can score, or that he's using a different definition?

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Now, do we suppose that Bourke is delusional and really believes the kid can score, or that he's using a different definition?
What is his definition of a two-way player? A player who regularly both goes in and comes out of the penalty box?

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What is his definition of a two-way player? A player who regularly both goes in and comes out of the penalty box?
Well, if they don't come out, it gets crowded.

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What is his definition of a two-way player? A player who regularly both goes in and comes out of the penalty box?
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a two-way player is a player who has both a good defensive and a good offensive game.
IMO a two-way player is just a player who has a good balance of defencive and offensive abilities. He doesn't necessairly have to be good at both.

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IMO a two-way player is just a player who has a good balance of defencive and offensive abilities. He doesn't necessairly have to be good at both.
I really don't know what you mean by "good balance." You're simply making a nebulous term more vague.

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Playing both offense and defense well: a two-way player.

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I really don't know what you mean by "good balance." You're simply making a nebulous term more vague.
Oh, I'm sorry, what I ment was...

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Playing both offense and defense well: a two-way player.
LOL see what I did there?

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Oh, I'm sorry, what I ment was...



LOL see what I did there?


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Playing both offense and defense well: a two-way player.
See what you did there?

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09-09-2010, 09:55 AM
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Someone should ask Brian Burke about his definition of a "two-way player". 124 career OHL games, 5 goals, 8 assists, 357 PIMs, -21.
I heard the interview and McCowan was bang on...a guy with numbers like Liambis doesnt require to see him play....he has GOON written all over him...the guy has no skill at all relatively speaking....

It is sad that a guy like this gets a chance to play at the AHL level when so many real "skilled" hockey players never do because of their size...Would Burke have ever given Theo Fluery or Martin St.Louis or even Steve Thomas a second glance? All small players who dont exactly play with truculence although Thomas was pretty gritty.

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What a bad interview. I found myself groaining and cringing with Burke when they brought up the CBA and Kovolchuk. People want to get excited about the team that is 2 weeks away from Preseason. Not about some jackhole who wants to play hockey till hes 45.


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It is sad that a guy like this gets a chance to play at the AHL level when so many real "skilled" hockey players never do because of their size...Would Burke have ever given Theo Fluery or Martin St.Louis or even Steve Thomas a second glance? All small players who dont exactly play with truculence although Thomas was pretty gritty.
I take it you never saw Fleury play.

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See what you did there?
Ok, I'll say it real simple-like. A player who is able to help his team defensively, and still score a few points, is a two-way player. A two-way player plays offensively at or around the same level as he plays defensively. It's pretty simple, really. He doesn't necessairly need to be "good" at both because "good" is just a matter of opinion.

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thank god i didn't hear the interview after reading the gist of it.

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