HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

LD Morgan Rielly - Moose Jaw Warriors, WHL (2012 Draft)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-01-2012, 07:25 PM
  #126
countrcultur
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 144
vCash: 500
I watched all three games in Edmonton and wasn't totally impressed with him.

The skating and offensive ability is as good as most people say but he cost his team a lot due to poor decision making. He carried the puck to long and made turn overs a lot. Any player with his style is going to turn the puck over some but too many times he skated right into coverage and had teammates waiting at the blue line. A lot of other examples. I wouldn't take him over Murray, dumba reinhart, trouba. As people here say, it's hard to teach hockey sense and I don't think he's as strong as the other top dmen in that aspect.

countrcultur is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 10:40 AM
  #127
arsmaster
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 17,914
vCash: 500
There is a strong possibility that not playing in 5-6 months and stepping in against a team with 22 straight wins might have factored into that.

His hockey sense is better than Dumba's.

I wouldn't take him over Murray or Trouba, but I think he's the #3 defensman available.

arsmaster is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 10:46 AM
  #128
R S
Renegade Stylings
 
R S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,824
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by countrcultur View Post
I watched all three games in Edmonton and wasn't totally impressed with him.

The skating and offensive ability is as good as most people say but he cost his team a lot due to poor decision making. He carried the puck to long and made turn overs a lot. Any player with his style is going to turn the puck over some but too many times he skated right into coverage and had teammates waiting at the blue line. A lot of other examples. I wouldn't take him over Murray, dumba reinhart, trouba. As people here say, it's hard to teach hockey sense and I don't think he's as strong as the other top dmen in that aspect.
Not sure I agree with your assessment, but it is what it is.

I think he's got much better hockey sense than a guy like Dumba and maybe even Reinhart.

R S is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 06:48 PM
  #129
countrcultur
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 144
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings View Post
Not sure I agree with your assessment, but it is what it is.

I think he's got much better hockey sense than a guy like Dumba and maybe even Reinhart.
Agree to disagree. His skating and cross overs and passing and shooting touch are all at a really high level. He did way too many stupid things for my taste though. On the power play he glides into the corner gets double teamed and tries to carry it out of there basically gifting the clear to the kings. McIlrath was giving him **** a few times on the bench. In really important games a guy has to be smarter than he was.

countrcultur is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 07:45 PM
  #130
The Latvian
#rooster #classless
 
The Latvian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,163
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by countrcultur View Post
I watched all three games in Edmonton and wasn't totally impressed with him.

The skating and offensive ability is as good as most people say but he cost his team a lot due to poor decision making. He carried the puck to long and made turn overs a lot. Any player with his style is going to turn the puck over some but too many times he skated right into coverage and had teammates waiting at the blue line. A lot of other examples. I wouldn't take him over Murray, dumba reinhart, trouba. As people here say, it's hard to teach hockey sense and I don't think he's as strong as the other top dmen in that aspect.
Let's remember these guys are just kids and have a lot to learn still. Even a guy like Reinhart was exposed in that series at times, he had some very poor decision making. I didn't watch games 1 and 2 of that series. However I was able to catch games 3,4 and 5. I can't say I saw Rielly display poor hockey sense. I see him as a very smart hockey player. I'd without question take him over Dumba and Reinhart. Can't comment on Trouba but I'd definelty consider taking him before Murray.

The Latvian is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 09:25 PM
  #131
DJB
Sens best prospect
 
DJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,791
vCash: 500
Loved this kid since the beginning of the year. He definately has top pairing offensive defenceman potentail...

DJB is offline  
Old
05-02-2012, 10:19 PM
  #132
countrcultur
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 144
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roooney View Post
Let's remember these guys are just kids and have a lot to learn still. Even a guy like Reinhart was exposed in that series at times, he had some very poor decision making. I didn't watch games 1 and 2 of that series. However I was able to catch games 3,4 and 5. I can't say I saw Rielly display poor hockey sense. I see him as a very smart hockey player. I'd without question take him over Dumba and Reinhart. Can't comment on Trouba but I'd definelty consider taking him before Murray.
I know theyre young. The reference point is each other mostly, and I'm just saying decision making wise I rate him below the rest of the top 4-5 guys.

He might be the best skater. He looked good skating coming off the layoff. Maybe it was the pressure but even that's a bad sign, just tried to do too much and carry the puck too long and hurt his team.

countrcultur is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 01:04 AM
  #133
NYR Sting
Heart and Soul
 
NYR Sting's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 9,506
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by countrcultur View Post
Agree to disagree. His skating and cross overs and passing and shooting touch are all at a really high level. He did way too many stupid things for my taste though. On the power play he glides into the corner gets double teamed and tries to carry it out of there basically gifting the clear to the kings. McIlrath was giving him **** a few times on the bench. In really important games a guy has to be smarter than he was.
That's amusing, since Rielly and McIlrath are on completely opposite ends of the hockey sense spectrum, what with McIlrath not having very much at all.

Seriously, Rielly was just back from a lengthy injury. I was very impressed with how well he played considering. I thought he was the best player on his team.

NYR Sting is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 01:46 AM
  #134
NeilYoung
Registered User
 
NeilYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,655
vCash: 500
Yeah Mcilraths hockey sense might be Dion Phaneufs compared to Rielly

And I like Rielly

NeilYoung is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 06:47 AM
  #135
ManByng
Moroz fan
 
ManByng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. Albert, Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,535
vCash: 500
i suspect the Ducks might take Rielly with their pick at #6.

ManByng is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 08:19 AM
  #136
squidz*
dun worry he's cool
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: South of the Border
Country: United States
Posts: 11,897
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManByng View Post
i suspect the Ducks might take Rielly with their pick at #6.
Countdown to DuckJet in 3...2...1...

squidz* is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 09:35 AM
  #137
Grant McCagg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,272
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanahanigans View Post
Watched a Junior game for the first time yesterday (Oil Kings-Warriors) so I'll try and give a few observations. Stick with me if I'm wrong, I'm probably not good at scouting!

1. The difference in quality of play between the Junior Leagues and the NHL is huge. I have a whole new level of respect for prospects who can make the jump right away.

2. Watching him yesterday, I don't know how Rielly isn't a top 5 pick this draft. He was the best player on the ice.

3. Reinhart is reliable, but not as flashy as Rielly. Rielly reminds me of a sort of Keith/Doughty hybrid with his skating.
I'm not sure how being the best player on the ice in one game makes you a top 5 pick. Do you not think other prospects vying for the top five also have had nights when they're the best players on the ice?

Grant McCagg is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 11:08 AM
  #138
ManByng
Moroz fan
 
ManByng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. Albert, Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,535
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManByng View Post
i suspect the Ducks might take Rielly with their pick at #6.
Quote:
Originally Posted by squidz View Post
Countdown to DuckJet in 3...2...1...

ManByng is offline  
Old
05-03-2012, 11:11 AM
  #139
ManByng
Moroz fan
 
ManByng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: St. Albert, Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,535
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant McCagg View Post
I'm not sure how being the best player on the ice in one game makes you a top 5 pick. Do you not think other prospects vying for the top five also have had nights when they're the best players on the ice?
Rielly had a good playoff which has apparently caught the eye of the scouts, they seemed very impressed with what they saw and add to that the fact they were already impressed with his apparent talent, for me it wouldn't be a stretch if Rielly was taken at #6.

ManByng is offline  
Old
05-04-2012, 05:50 PM
  #140
Surly Furious
Registered User
 
Surly Furious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: frozen north
Posts: 6,959
vCash: 500
So, does the guy look fully recovered enough to warrant a top 10 pick?

Surly Furious is offline  
Old
05-04-2012, 06:13 PM
  #141
Marc the Habs Fan
Moderator
Chucky breakout year
 
Marc the Habs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Longueuil
Country: Canada
Posts: 53,160
vCash: 626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
So, does the guy look fully recovered enough to warrant a top 10 pick?
By all accounts his skating ability was real close to what it was pre-injury, if not right at the same level, so absolutely. He didn't lose his hands or hockey sense during the rehab.

Marc the Habs Fan is offline  
Old
05-04-2012, 06:18 PM
  #142
bsmith14
Registered User
 
bsmith14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,514
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
So, does the guy look fully recovered enough to warrant a top 10 pick?
I only saw him live twice and once on tv but imo yes.

bsmith14 is offline  
Old
05-04-2012, 06:34 PM
  #143
Surly Furious
Registered User
 
Surly Furious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: frozen north
Posts: 6,959
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan View Post
By all accounts his skating ability was real close to what it was pre-injury, if not right at the same level, so absolutely. He didn't lose his hands or hockey sense during the rehab.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith14 View Post
I only saw him live twice and once on tv but imo yes.
That's good, because I think he'd be a great add for Minnesota.

Surly Furious is offline  
Old
05-04-2012, 11:48 PM
  #144
R S
Renegade Stylings
 
R S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,824
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManByng View Post
Rielly had a good playoff which has apparently caught the eye of the scouts, they seemed very impressed with what they saw and add to that the fact they were already impressed with his apparent talent, for me it wouldn't be a stretch if Rielly was taken at #6.
Not exactly. He mostly caught the eye of scouts because he was remarkably good considering he was returning from injury.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
That's good, because I think he'd be a great add for Minnesota.
Not sure I agree. The Wild grabbed Brodin last year and Rielly is a somewhat similar player. If Rielly was right handed I might agree a bit more with you. In fact, I said they would draft Mathew Dumba in my mock a couple weeks back.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/20...ock-draft.html

R S is offline  
Old
05-05-2012, 06:09 PM
  #145
TCJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 29
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings View Post
Not sure I agree. The Wild grabbed Brodin last year and Rielly is a somewhat similar player. If Rielly was right handed I might agree a bit more with you. In fact, I said they would draft Mathew Dumba in my mock a couple weeks back.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/20...ock-draft.html
The only similarity between them is that they're both great skaters and neither has ideal size. Rielly is the type that is going to bring the puck up himself and lead the rush into the offensive zone. Brodin is the kind of guy that will make a good breakout pass and disappear offensively. Reilly's biggest strength is Brodin's biggest weakness.

TCJ is offline  
Old
05-07-2012, 12:07 AM
  #146
R S
Renegade Stylings
 
R S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,824
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by TCJ View Post
The only similarity between them is that they're both great skaters and neither has ideal size. Rielly is the type that is going to bring the puck up himself and lead the rush into the offensive zone. Brodin is the kind of guy that will make a good breakout pass and disappear offensively. Reilly's biggest strength is Brodin's biggest weakness.
Agree to disagree I guess.

R S is offline  
Old
05-07-2012, 08:54 AM
  #147
squidz*
dun worry he's cool
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: South of the Border
Country: United States
Posts: 11,897
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings View Post
Not exactly. He mostly caught the eye of scouts because he was remarkably good considering he was returning from injury.



Not sure I agree. The Wild grabbed Brodin last year and Rielly is a somewhat similar player. If Rielly was right handed I might agree a bit more with you. In fact, I said they would draft Mathew Dumba in my mock a couple weeks back.

http://whl-from-above.blogspot.ca/20...ock-draft.html
I don't really agree with the similar player statement for the same reason as TCJ, but that aside, Brodin apparently plays on the right side (despite being a left shot) so Rielly's left shot shouldn't be a major influence. Stylistically, Dumba would be a better match to pair with Brodin, but if either is on the board when the Wild pick, I don't think they can go wrong.

squidz* is offline  
Old
06-21-2012, 03:38 PM
  #148
JawandaPuck
Moderator
Lost Art of Dynasty
 
JawandaPuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,304
vCash: 500
Just thought I'd pass along, heard Rielly's interview on Team1040 (VAN) the other day. He said his favorite team growing up was the Canucks and his favorite player was Matthias Ohlund.

__________________
Follow JawandaPuck on Twitter and Blogspot - all revenue from Google Ads is donated to the Canucks for Kids Fund (CFKF) in support of the Canucks Autism Network (CAN).
JawandaPuck is offline  
Old
06-21-2012, 07:35 PM
  #149
calcal798
Registered User
 
calcal798's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,649
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JawandaPuck View Post
Just thought I'd pass along, heard Rielly's interview on Team1040 (VAN) the other day. He said his favorite team growing up was the Canucks and his favorite player was Matthias Ohlund.
Well he's not dropping that far in the draft.

calcal798 is offline  
Old
06-21-2012, 08:30 PM
  #150
PuckInTheNards
Registered User
 
PuckInTheNards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 812
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JawandaPuck View Post
Just thought I'd pass along, heard Rielly's interview on Team1040 (VAN) the other day. He said his favorite team growing up was the Canucks and his favorite player was Matthias Ohlund.
Oof... that won't play well in St. Paul. The Lumberjack is persona non grata.

PuckInTheNards is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:06 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.