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01-22-2008, 05:48 PM
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Heath Ledger died today. He was only 28 years old and leaves behind a young daughter.

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Heath Ledger died today. He was only 28 years old and leaves behind a young daughter.
Was just coming in to post this. According to Sun-Sentinel he was surrounded by sleeping pills. Very sad, especially for his daughter.

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Heath Ledger died today. He was only 28 years old and leaves behind a young daughter.
That's two young actors in a week, both apparently connected to substance abuse. I already forgot the name of the other one, he wasn't a household name.

Hollywood's youth are sicker than usual these days - something really wrong with the culture in Tinseltown. They've always celebrated drug use there, but now they're passing it on to kids that can't control it it seems.

After Congress is done persecuting Major League Baseball, maybe a visit to Hollywood (accompanied by real law enforcement, the FBI) would be in order??

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That's two young actors in a week, both apparently connected to substance abuse. I already forgot the name of the other one, he wasn't a household name.

Hollywood's youth are sicker than usual these days - something really wrong with the culture in Tinseltown. They've always celebrated drug use there, but now they're passing it on to kids that can't control it it seems.

After Congress is done persecuting Major League Baseball, maybe a visit to Hollywood (accompanied by real law enforcement, the FBI) would be in order??
brad renfro I think was his name

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Was just coming in to post this. According to Sun-Sentinel he was surrounded by sleeping pills. Very sad, especially for his daughter.
agree very sad for his daughter

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brad renfro I think was his name
Yeah, it was Renfro. Loved him in the movie with Susan Surandon. Very sad about him, too. Fame and fortune don't equal happiness.

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Yeah, it was Renfro. Loved him in the movie with Susan Surandon. Very sad about him, too. Fame and fortune don't equal happiness.
wasn't it Owen Wilson who just also tried to commit suicide? granted we don't know if that was the case here but still a senseless and tragic death for someone so young with apparently the world at his feet. i feel badly for his family.

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wasn't it Owen Wilson who just also tried to commit suicide? granted we don't know if that was the case here but still a senseless and tragic death for someone so young with apparently the world at his feet. i feel badly for his family.
Yes, it was him. Hollywood will give you everything, while slowly taking that from you if you're not careful.

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Yes, it was him. Hollywood will give you everything, while slowly taking that from you if you're not careful.
it can happen to anyone - there've been plenty of times this year and last that i've seriously wanted to put a bullet in my head.

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That's a sad thing to hear. I thought he looked real good as the joker in the new batman.

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it can happen to anyone - there've been plenty of times this year and last that i've seriously wanted to put a bullet in my head.
That's unfortunate. I can certainly empathize, but I'm not a a coward and that's what I think that is, the coward's way out. Things get better, they always do for me, and I really do grow through the rough times. I'm now very thankful for them.

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Panthers Lounge: 3rd Time's a Charm

Since the last Lounge thread went over 1000 posts, we've got a new Lounge thread v.3

I moved the last chunk of posts from the old one over here, so the Heath Ledger discussion could continue.

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It's so irritating to me that these people have so much talent, tons of money, and the ability to do anything they want or have anything they want in the world and yet it's not enough. Now you throw a baby into the max and it's downright sad. Whatevs.

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It's so irritating to me that these people have so much talent, tons of money, and the ability to do anything they want or have anything they want in the world and yet it's not enough. Now you throw a baby into the max and it's downright sad. Whatevs.
1) look at the type of people who are your typical celebrity these days: people who want to be famous as much as anything. They crave acceptance from others and need it for their well-being.

2) Hollywood has been bathed in drugs from the get-go. There's stars that have died of drug use going back to the 1930s. It's the unscrupulous producers and agents and studio execs that make sure there's plenty of that stuff around to keep their stars going long enough to make money from them - if they happen to go overboard or die along the way, oh well, too bad - have to replace them.

Yeah, I'm jaded, but remember Hollywood is a major source of the popularity of drug use as a recreational activity, and too many tend to forget or ignore all the stories of sorrow that stem from that drug use.

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Incidentally, the saga of my wife's car's failed emissions continues...

After $900+ repairs and 2 failed emissions tests, she acquired a waiver from the DMV. They instructed her to take the waiver back to the inspecting mechanic so he could issue her emissions decal sticker.

So, she goes back to the mechanic and hands him the waiver paperwork. He says he can't do it unless a DMV rep is present to authorize the waiver and punch in the waiver code on his inspection test device.

My wife is dumbfounded. She reads him the waiver instructions, which clearly state the document serves as an official waiver, as well as the instructions on how the mechanic can punch in the waiver code on his test device. She also reiterates that the DMV told her the form was all she needed for him to get her sticker.

His response? Goes a little like this... "Well, last time I had to do a failed inspect waiver was a year ago or so. Had to get a DMV rep to come out then and put the code in my machine. I reckon that's what you still gotta do. Hopefully, you and him can set up an appointment time that doesn't get in the way of my regular work here. It's out of my hands...nothing I can do for you without that DMV fella gettin' involved."

So, she calls me. So, I get on the internet and find the DMV hotline, because the emissions specialists at the DMV are only available from 8am-10am Monday through Friday. The hotline rep tells me it sounds like the mechanic hasn't a clue how the waiver procedure works and that my wife was right. She also tells me the mechanic should have called the hotline for guidance (as it's his responsibility) and that this can be resolved in the morning with a phone call from her when his shop re-opens. I told the rep they shouldn't hand inspect authorizations to mechanics that don't care to learn how the system works.

Bottom line, due to his apathetic response to helping us solve this problem, I'll no longer use this mechanic. It's a shame, really, as I've been taking my cars to him for nearly 2 years now, as well as recommending him to everyone I know.

As loyal as I am to those that treat me right, I'm equally treacherous to those that don't.

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Incidentally, the saga of my wife's car's failed emissions continues...

After $900+ repairs and 2 failed emissions tests, she acquired a waiver from the DMV. They instructed her to take the waiver back to the inspecting mechanic so he could issue her emissions decal sticker.

So, she goes back to the mechanic and hands him the waiver paperwork. He says he can't do it unless a DMV rep is present to authorize the waiver and punch in the waiver code on his inspection test device.

My wife is dumbfounded. She reads him the waiver instructions, which clearly state the document serves as an official waiver, as well as the instructions on how the mechanic can punch in the waiver code on his test device. She also reiterates that the DMV told her the form was all she needed for him to get her sticker.

His response? Goes a little like this... "Well, last time I had to do a failed inspect waiver was a year ago or so. Had to get a DMV rep to come out then and put the code in my machine. I reckon that's what you still gotta do. Hopefully, you and him can set up an appointment time that doesn't get in the way of my regular work here. It's out of my hands...nothing I can do for you without that DMV fella gettin' involved."

So, she calls me. So, I get on the internet and find the DMV hotline, because the emissions specialists at the DMV are only available from 8am-10am Monday through Friday. The hotline rep tells me it sounds like the mechanic hasn't a clue how the waiver procedure works and that my wife was right. She also tells me the mechanic should have called the hotline for guidance (as it's his responsibility) and that this can be resolved in the morning with a phone call from her when his shop re-opens. I told the rep they shouldn't hand inspect authorizations to mechanics that don't care to learn how the system works.

Bottom line, due to his apathetic response to helping us solve this problem, I'll no longer use this mechanic. It's a shame, really, as I've been taking my cars to him for nearly 2 years now, as well as recommending him to everyone I know.

As loyal as I am to those that treat me right, I'm equally treacherous to those that don't.

that sucks. i was glad when my county got rid of the emissions testing.

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That's ridiculous. I was a very happy camper when Florida stopped the emissions garbage. Sitting in a very long line, in a brand new truck, seemed pretty pointless to me. I'd bought a truck like 4 or 5 months before my birthday and they made me take the emissions test.

From what I've heard, the emissions stories are many, and are never good. Sorry about the mechanic, we just recently switched, too. He tried to charge me a few 100 to much. Like you, if you cross me, I just pull my business away and tell others to do the same.

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The Monte Carlo Hotel here in Vegas had the roof burnt to ashes. No one was hurt...and you can't see it from my rooftop

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The Monte Carlo Hotel here in Vegas had the roof burnt to ashes. No one was hurt...and you can't see it from my rooftop
I saw that on CNN while I was at the gym earlier. Glad to know nobody was hurt and everyone's ok. The roof looked pretty badly damaged.

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I saw that on CNN while I was at the gym earlier. Glad to know nobody was hurt and everyone's ok. The roof looked pretty badly damaged.
Sounds like welders who were working on the roof earlier in the day were responsible...or irresponsible as the case may be.

Wonder if they use insured workers, or if they hire...umm....day contractors

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Had an emotional evening today.

Seems a disgruntled, soon-to-be-ex-husband walked into the daycare around the corner from where I live, and shot and killed his ex-wife in front of a classroom of 2 year olds. None of the children were hurt (thank God), but some of the children had blood splatter on them.

One of the kids in my Sunday school class goes there (she's 3), and they interviewed her on the news. She said a "monster" was in the school and the teacher had them hide in the bathroom and sing songs.

This kind of stuff never happens in my neighborhood. Everyone's shook up about it. My boys attend the 'sister school' about a mile east of the daycare and their school's director and my boys' teachers were on news tonight at the scene. It should be interesting on Monday when I drop them off to school.

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I'm having a party at my house tonight!!! THIS PLACE IS ROCKIN!!!

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Had an emotional evening today.

Seems a disgruntled, soon-to-be-ex-husband walked into the daycare around the corner from where I live, and shot and killed his ex-wife in front of a classroom of 2 year olds. None of the children were hurt (thank God), but some of the children had blood splatter on them.

One of the kids in my Sunday school class goes there (she's 3), and they interviewed her on the news. She said a "monster" was in the school and the teacher had them hide in the bathroom and sing songs.

This kind of stuff never happens in my neighborhood. Everyone's shook up about it. My boys attend the 'sister school' about a mile east of the daycare and their school's director and my boys' teachers were on news tonight at the scene. It should be interesting on Monday when I drop them off to school.
That's a horrible story It's sad to say that even in the safest areas, there are crazy people everywhere and something tragic like that could happen in any given town at any given moment. It's stories I hear like these that make me take my life for granted sometimes.

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It's stories I hear like these that make me take my life for granted sometimes.
I would think you mean the opposite - that these stories make you realize how you usually take your life for granted but certainly shouldn't when you see things like this happen.

I can relate when, two summers ago, the most violent incident to hit the town I grew up in happened since the time I was 5. A man who was dating a local teacher (and thank God it was summer when this happened) shot the woman's mother to death at their home (she was also a teacher at one of the town elementary schools, a longtime one, though I didn't attend that school and didn't know her), then went to the school where she works looking for his girlfriend to kill her also. When he couldn't find her, he killed another teacher and wounded another, then went to a house nearby and wounded a man who lived there, who had some connection to all of it. He's currently playing the legal system in this state like a fiddle trying to avoid going to prison for the rest of his life.

Nothing of this sort had happened in that town since two girls were attacked in the woods just 1/2 mile from the home where I lived as they walked home from school back one day in 1980. One girl got away but the other was killed.

Anyway, even though I'd moved a whopping 10 miles away from the town, it was still something that shook my foundations when it was happening, because it always was such a peaceful town, for the most part. Naturally, the man who committed the shootings was not native to the town.

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Had an emotional evening today.

Seems a disgruntled, soon-to-be-ex-husband walked into the daycare around the corner from where I live, and shot and killed his ex-wife in front of a classroom of 2 year olds. None of the children were hurt (thank God), but some of the children had blood splatter on them.

One of the kids in my Sunday school class goes there (she's 3), and they interviewed her on the news. She said a "monster" was in the school and the teacher had them hide in the bathroom and sing songs.

This kind of stuff never happens in my neighborhood. Everyone's shook up about it. My boys attend the 'sister school' about a mile east of the daycare and their school's director and my boys' teachers were on news tonight at the scene. It should be interesting on Monday when I drop them off to school.
Lola, that's just horrible. Those kids will wrestle with those images for a good chunk of their lives, possibly repressing them until one day it all comes rushing back.

I'm sure they'll undergo a good amount of counseling at some point, especially considering that at 2 years of age, there's not enough comprehension skills to grasp the scope of what's occurred.

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