W00t, a win. Couldn't watch it because of my phone line being on the fritz, and 50kb/sec (when it's good) doesn't really hold up for streaming video.
Anyhow, can somebody give me a rundown on how game was and how the players performed? I heard Bobrovsky was good, but I think some people might be overreacting (see main board).
Also, I wonder if in the next game our goaltending tandem will be Bobby-Boucher
Just to add to what the others said, Carter scored a nice goal that was pure muscle and hustle, he had it in mid air and somehow got it to the ice while having another player draped all over him.
Richie looked real good, dispelling Pannacio's comment about him being out of shape. The other philly media tweeters spent more time talking about how tanned and blonde Carter was than they did talking about the game.
I was at the Phillies game so I had to DVR the Flyers, watched a bit of it when I got home.
Now, I know Coatesy isn't going to talk down about the team and bad mouth Homers decisions. But really... go out there and actually say he hopes Guerin makes the team.....
Didn't catch the game because rock climbing took longer than I thought. Should I be concerned that Zherdev was a -3 for the night?
I am ELATED to hear that Bobrovsky looked solid. I'd still like to keep him in the AHL, but if he continues to impress, the Flyers' hand may be forced.
W00t, a win. Couldn't watch it because of my phone line being on the fritz, and 50kb/sec (when it's good) doesn't really hold up for streaming video.
Anyhow, can somebody give me a rundown on how game was and how the players performed? I heard Bobrovsky was good, but I think some people might be overreacting (see main board).
Also, I wonder if in the next game our goaltending tandem will be Bobby-Boucher
Zherdev is our most gifted player. We'll see how he applies it.
Bob was great as already stated.
Guerin was horrid
Holmstrom surprised me a lot. Quite solid on the pk and would be an option if Betts is out. I'd still put Powe and Kalinsky ahead of him on the 4th line center depth chart but he would certainly work. He was much better than I anticipated.
Mezaros was OK
Walker and Bart both played fairly well I thought
Richards was our best forward
JVR looked stout
Nodl and Powe both played well (as expected since they both excel at the preseason)
Timmonen was fast
Shelly was as advertised
Leighton was soft, although one was pretty much unstoppable
Briere's goal was redonculous as were both shootout goals
Jerseys looked awesome
Thank you. I dont have to type now...
Agreed with everything stated. To add on Mezsaros. He had flashes where he looked like Coburn on his best day and other flashes where he looked like a SLOW Coburn on his worst day. Very hit and miss with him so far...
Richy looked great, but definitely needs some time to get back into game shape. At times he looked a little tentative, but that may be because it was pre-season.
Carter had the nice goal, but looked blah to me...
How about spongebob? absorbing stuff all game long...
Great to start with a win though and can't wait for the real stuff.
Can Guerin really be that bad?
I really like Spongebob.
Guerin is all washed up. I can't think of one player who deserves to be replaced by him.
I love how people are so judgemental over players after 1 preseason game. Especially when people bash one player, and then make "well it's just one game" excuses for another.
I love how people are so judgemental over players after 1 preseason game. Especially when people bash one player, and then make "well it's just one game" excuses for another.
Using reason + Emotional feelings = A big ol' mess
I like Leighton, but he looked like rubber Swiss cheese last night. Carter haters will look past the game he had last night and still want him gone ("it's only 1 game"). Bobrovsky lovers will look at 20 minutes of play against a Devils team mostly made up of AHLers and anoint him the Messiah goalie. It's just the nature of being fans.
Which is what many players said about Leighton last year. I guess it's different now since Briere is talking about a goalie other thean Leighton?
And, anyway, the best goalie on the ice last night was Mike McKenna. Perhaps Homer should try to acquire him?
Did they say it in the finals? Holmgren himself was quoted after the series as saying Leighton didn't really give the team a chance to win although he qualified it with saying it wasn't all his fault which is accurate. Nevertheless, Leighton had a below 90% save percentage in the finals and it didn't cut it...the finals is basically what I was alluding to with my comment. Leighton has said "it's over and done with" and he's moving on....yes that's what you have to do but when you get to the finals on avg once a decade..that's pretty hard to swallow. Nevertheless, it's preseason and the comments are mostly for fun....with a tinge of truth of course.
Did they say it in the finals? Holmgren himself was quoted after the series as saying Leighton didn't really give the team a chance to win although he qualified it with saying it wasn't all his fault which is accurate. Nevertheless, Leighton had a below 90% save percentage in the finals and it didn't cut it...the finals is basically what I was alluding to with my comment. Leighton has said "it's over and done with" and he's moving on....yes that's what you have to do but when you get to the finals on avg once a decade..that's pretty hard to swallow. Nevertheless, it's preseason and the comments are mostly for fun....with a tinge of truth of course.
No, they didn't say it in the Finals, but they wouldn't have even made it to the Finals without Leighton in the 2nd half of the season. Would you rather have lost in the first round or two or make it to the Finals?
As for the comments being fun, I don't see it that way. It's just more ripping on Leighton for the sake of ripping on Leighton. There could be a thread on how hot this summer has been and someone will find a way to blame Leighton.
As for the comments being fun, I don't see it that way. It's just more ripping on Leighton for the sake of ripping on Leighton. There could be a thread on how hot this summer has been and someone will find a way to blame Leighton.
Now you're just being ridiculous, everyone knows it was Randy Jones' fault.......
Richie looked quick and agile, if a little anxious.
Carter appears to be back to form. We'll see.
Noodles, while not being able to bury, looked pretty damn good. Give the guy some more TOI.
BOBALOOOOOOOOOOO was fantastic. DAT LATERAL MOVEMENT. Good God.
Kimmotherapy was quicker than usual. Don't know where that came from but I like it.
Z was a -3, but made some kind of attempt to get back on defense. For a player known for not caring about his side of the ice, it's a welcome change. Also, scary hands.
JVR went beast mode.
Hobbit is still in playoff form. Let's hope he keeps it up.
Coburn being physical. I LOVE IT. DO IT ALWAYS.
The Okay:
Holmstrom looked alright. Nothing really stood out.
Powe had a good night for his standards.
Shelley ....wasn't as terrible as I thought he was going to be.
Meszaros was alright. Nothing really stood out. Good passing.
O'Donnell was fine. Exactly what we want from a 3rd pairing guy.
Walker wasn't garbage.
The Bad:
Richie and Carter both need to play center. Split this line Lavi.
Leighton. He wasn't OH JESUS HOW TERRIBLE, just bad. Get the damn rebounds under control already.
Billy G is old and slow. His spot could easily be filled by Noodles or Holmstrom. Send him packing.
All in all, solid game. Can't wait to see what Testwuide and Pither do. I'd like to see Boosh and Backlund get some time too.
I like Leighton, but he looked like rubber Swiss cheese last night. Carter haters will look past the game he had last night and still want him gone ("it's only 1 game"). Bobrovsky lovers will look at 20 minutes of play against a Devils team mostly made up of AHLers and anoint him the Messiah goalie. It's just the nature of being fans.
Meh. Leighton ****ing up now isn't a problem. He still has time to get things down. Just I agree, really needs to get the damn rebound control down. I hoped he had worked on it in the off season, guess not. Hopefully it comes with experience as he plays more. He did have good moments though, like a 2-1, defender pinches puck, leaves other guy for a breakaway, Leighton got big and shut the shot down. Take the good and the bad for now, I guess.
It'll be a problem when the games actually count, though.
Bob looked really good, let's see how he does as the preseason progresses.
Little run down of what I saw:
- Bob looks good in the 3rd, OT, and shootout. Very surprised by how well he actually played.
- Richards was his old self again, one of the best out there
- Carter had a nice goal and looked solid
- Zherdev was dangling all over and is extremely skilled, but I did notice him slow to get back defensively a few times. I hope Pronger pulls a Fedoruk soon and punches him into reality
- Leighton was very average as he is. Made a few saves here and there, but let in a very weak one. The deflection goal was not his fault though.
- JVR looks good, but I'd like to see more of him with his supposedly new bulked up body. I'm looking forward to seeing him the rest of preseason.
- Walker looked like a decent #6
- Meszaros did not look like anything more than a decent #5, pretty disappointed.
- Shelley was trash other than his fight, I hope he doesn't play much.
- Guerin, I no longer want to make the team.
- Holmstrom looked like a decent mid-season injury call up for the 4th line
- Powe and Nodl both played well for their roles.
Ultimately it was the first preseason game and we were missing a lot of guys. I'm not gonna over think how everyone played because most of the guys are trying to get their feet back under them.
No, they didn't say it in the Finals, but they wouldn't have even made it to the Finals without Leighton in the 2nd half of the season. Would you rather have lost in the first round or two or make it to the Finals?
As for the comments being fun, I don't see it that way. It's just more ripping on Leighton for the sake of ripping on Leighton. There could be a thread on how hot this summer has been and someone will find a way to blame Leighton.
I would have rather won the finals....period
No it's partly fun since every year the Flyers have a couple of goat boys..like somebody said it's the nature of being fans. It's also legit criticism with some people ..not all as some are just haters for hatin's sake I agree. In Leighton's case last night he was pedestrian and watch the interview somebody posted a link to (after Bobo was interviewed) ..he admits to gifting 2 fat rebounds! Those are fundamentals he didn't have in check...that is valid criticism and not criticism for the sake of just ripping the guy especially when he criticizes himself after the game.....jeesh...
Meh. Leighton ****ing up now isn't a problem. He still has time to get things down. Just I agree, really needs to get the damn rebound control down. I hoped he had worked on it in the off season, guess not. Hopefully it comes with experience as he plays more. He did have good moments though, like a 2-1, defender pinches puck, leaves other guy for a breakaway, Leighton got big and shut the shot down. Take the good and the bad for now, I guess.
It'll be a problem when the games actually count, though.
Bob looked really good, let's see how he does as the preseason progresses.
Concern now I see?
It may take 4-5 bad games for both clowns to make this city go nuts. He turned a routine stop into huge rebound and a goal. It makes no difference how much money Holmgren spends on D. Yeah, I know it's one pre-season game.
It's not about hate really, it's about solid goaltending.
It may take 4-5 bad games for both clowns to make this city go nuts. He turned a routine stop into huge rebound and a goal. It makes no difference how much money Holmgren spends on D. Yeah, I know it's one pre-season game.
It's not about hate really, it's about solid goaltending.
Who hasn't been concerned? I'm just not the type of person to cut the guy's head off until I see just cause. Most people on this board don't seem to get that.
At the same time, the entire team looked like ass in the second.
I missed the second goal so can't comment on it. But the first goal wasn't his fault at all. Third goal clearly was. Defense tried to wrap them up. If Leighton, after dropping it, kept in the butterfly with pads down, that wasn't a goal. For some reason he popped his left leg out in his reaction. That annoys me more than the dropped rebound (which does piss me off too). He almost looked like he was flopping like Nitty.
It may take 4-5 bad games for both clowns to make this city go nuts. He turned a routine stop into huge rebound and a goal. It makes no difference how much money Holmgren spends on D. Yeah, I know it's one pre-season game.
It's not about hate really, it's about solid goaltending.
Agree....in the preseason you want to see your starter at least perform the fundamentals properly..win or lose. He needed to make it harder if he wants to establish himself as the starter and not have a highly talented rookie goalie push him for his job. Notice during the interview that he gave guarded praise to Bobrovsky and after admitting to gifting the two fat rebounds he said he would have essentially liked to have redeemed himself by playing the full game. Instead, he created a small window for Bobo to show what he had and despite the limited but quality shots he showed much more focus and attention to fundamentals in the way he was following the play than Leighton did in two periods. Leighton had his moments and then he relapsed with the 2 rebounds which were just bad. He's going to have to remediate himself once again and tighten up his game if he doesn't want to be pushed out as the designated starter. I'm glad he's being given a run for his money even if his main competition may be a rookie in Bob. To me it will speak volumes. Let's see and yes let's have some fun too in seeing the rooks perform in camp.
Agree....in the preseason you want to see your starter at least perform the fundamentals properly..win or lose. He needed to make it harder if he wants to establish himself as the starter and not have a highly talented rookie goalie push him for his job. Notice during the interview that he gave guarded praise to Bobrovsky and after admitting to gifting the two fat rebounds he said he would have essentially liked to have redeemed himself by playing the full game. Instead, he created a small window for Bobo to show what he had and despite the limited but quality shots he showed much more focus and attention to fundamentals in the way he was following the play than Leighton did in two periods. Leighton had his moments and then he relapsed with the 2 rebounds which were just bad. He's going to have to remediate himself once again and tighten up his game if he doesn't want to be pushed out as the designated starter. I'm glad he's being given a run for his money even if his main competition may be a rookie in Bob. To me it will speak volumes. Let's see and yes let's have some fun too in seeing the rooks perform in camp.
It's good we have so many goalies in the system. Both Leighton and Boucher have to perform. Backlund and Bob both seem to have a lot of potential, and if they start to play well, Leighton or Boucher's jobs may be in jeopardy.
