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06-05-2004, 01:20 AM
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Nieuwendyk/Iginla

Is this the most even trade of all time? Or better yet, best trade of all time, for both sides?

Nieuwendyk turned out to be the perfect rental player... leads Dallas to the Stanley Cup and wins the Conn Smythe. Five years later, it appears Jarome Iginla is on the verge of doing the same thing. I don't think this trade could have worked out better for both teams?

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Yeah, it was a good trade for both teams. Nobody thought Iginla would be this good.

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If I'm a Stars fan I'm kicking myself that Iginla was ever traded.

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If I'm a Stars fan I'm kicking myself that Iginla was ever traded.
well it did lead to a cup, which is hard to argue against, since Niuwendyk did win the Conn Smyth, so clearly they probably wouldnt have won without the deal.

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If you trade away a player and the guy you get in return is a pivotal factor in winning the Cup...it doesn't matter who you traded away.

You won the Cup, and that's final.

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If you trade away a player and the guy you get in return is a pivotal factor in winning the Cup...it doesn't matter who you traded away.

You won the Cup, and that's final.
Well said

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If I'm a Stars fan I'm kicking myself that Iginla was ever traded.


I'm sure that Stars "fans" (along with management and the players) would prefer to erase the Cup win in '99, along with the return to the Finals in '00. Take the names off Lord Stanley! :lol

After all, what's the big deal about a championship?

Every single NHL GM, were they in the same position as Gainey at the time, would have made that deal...and never regret it for a second. The idea is to win.

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Needless to say, great deal all the way around.


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I'm sure that Stars "fans" (along with management and the players) would prefer to erase the Cup win in '99, along with the return to the Finals in '00. Take the names off Lord Stanley! :lol

After all, what's the big deal about a championship?

Every single NHL GM, were they in the same position as Gainey at the time, would have made that deal...and never regret it for a second. The idea is to win.

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Needless to say, great deal all the way around.
I agree. Sure, losing Iginla hurts but the Stars got a Stanley Cup out of it.

Both teams are going to get a Stanley Cup from this deal. Can't complain if you are either team.

Kind of reminds me of the Amonte + somebody for Noonan + Matteau deal that got the Rangers the Cup. Or Hull + Bozek for Ramage + Wamsley. Sure, you lost a great player but you win a Stanley Cup. It's a sacrifice that's worth it.

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If I'm a Stars fan I'm kicking myself that Iginla was ever traded.
Say what? Winning a Cup (the first and only one in franchise history I might add) is the most important thing in hockey. I would trade Mike Modano for the Stanley Cup, hell, I would trade the entire team.. Statements like this is typical HF though..

I am kicking myself over and over regarding that deal though, as the Flames originally wanted Todd Harvey, the Stars refused to give up on him and the Flames had to "settle" for Jarome Iginla instead. Hated Harvey ever since (f' you Harvey!)..

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I am kicking myself over and over regarding that deal though, as the Flames originally wanted Todd Harvey, the Stars refused to give up on him and the Flames had to "settle" for Jarome Iginla instead. Hated Harvey ever since (f' you Harvey!)..
Just goes to show that no one thought Iggy would break out like this...

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If I'm a Stars fan I'm kicking myself that Iginla was ever traded.
This is crazy. So its better to stockpile prospects and never win the cup? Typical HF mentality.

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That's why the Brett Hull deal that Calgary made was even, if not a Flames win because Ramage and Wamsley came in and helped the team to the cup (Wamsley -- best door opener ever!---besides giving Vernon some night's off)

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I am kicking myself over and over regarding that deal though, as the Flames originally wanted Todd Harvey, the Stars refused to give up on him and the Flames had to "settle" for Jarome Iginla instead.
Yikes! Didn't know that. I recall Harvey being well regarded when he first broke in, but still! It just goes to show how inexact talent evaluation can be.

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This deal should be used as the only example of a "perfect deal" assuming Calgary wins the Cup. Nieuwendyk won Dallas the cup... wait a few years, and now Iginla is leading Calgary towards one. A perfect deal. Worked out for both teams exactly as they could have dreamed.

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This is crazy. So its better to stockpile prospects and never win the cup? Typical HF mentality.
Wow, congratulations, you've failed to realize I was talking in hindsight.

I, for one, would rather have 15 years of one of the best players in the league than a Stanley cup in 1999.

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Wow, congratulations, you've failed to realize I was talking in hindsight.

I, for one, would rather have 15 years of one of the best players in the league than a Stanley cup in 1999.
WEll suit yourself, maybe its just the Maple Leafs Mentality but I'd pass up a guy like Iginla for the Cup one year.

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I, for one, would rather have 15 years of one of the best players in the league than a Stanley cup in 1999.
You'd probably be the only one..

That, and Jarome Iginla has been among the best untill 3 years ago, and that excludes his season of last year. Even if Jarome continues to play like he's doing now, he would probably be among the best for about 8 seasons, not 15, very few were among the best since their rookie years till the day they retired.

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