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09-23-2010, 01:15 AM
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Nick Foligno - Top 6?

Now I realize that two preseason games don't mean much but I've been impressed with Foligno's play. In the past he's shown chemistry with other guys in our top six (Fisher, Spezza) and two years ago in his sophomore season he did score 17 goals. The question is who do we put on the third line in favor on Nick? Mods feel free to move this onto the line combo thread

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09-23-2010, 06:04 AM
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I wonder how this line-up would look

Michalek/Spezza/Alfy
Butler/Fisher/Kovalev
Foligno/Regin/Smith or Shannon
Ruutu/Kelly/Neil
Winchester

I would like to see Butler get a chance in top 6 and it would spread out the offence to 3 lines

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09-23-2010, 07:23 AM
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I wonder how this line-up would look

Michalek/Spezza/Alfy
Butler/Fisher/Kovalev
Foligno/Regin/Smith or Shannon
Ruutu/Kelly/Neil
Winchester

I would like to see Butler get a chance in top 6 and it would spread out the offence to 3 lines
Michalek-Spezza-Alfie
Regin-Fisher-Kovalev
Foligno-Kelly-Winchester
Ruutu-Smith-Neil

Doesn't force a player who isnt at all ready into the top 6, gives us a good 3rd line and a still amazing and far more physical 4th line. RKN are good together but theres no reason why Smith can't replace Kelly in a situation like this.

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he was in the top 6 in the playoffs along side spezza and regin and he didn't look out of place.

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for the record,

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson sucked last year and it was our "#1" line.

Why would anyone want to see that garbage again? Especially after Regin was on fire with Spezza at the end of the year.

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I wonder how this line-up would look

Michalek/Spezza/Alfy
Butler/Fisher/Kovalev
Foligno/Regin/Smith or Shannon
Ruutu/Kelly/Neil
Winchester

I would like to see Butler get a chance in top 6 and it would spread out the offence to 3 lines
Fisher is better suited on the 3rd.

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09-23-2010, 08:20 AM
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Fisher is better suited on the 3rd.
Totally agree but I dont think thats something Clouston would look at. I might be the person on these boards that MOST agrees with that

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just a thought...

Foligno / Spezza / Alfredsson
Michalek / Regin / Kovalev
Z. Smith / Fisher / Winchester or Butler or Wick
Ruutu / Kelly / Neil

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for the record,

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson sucked last year and it was our "#1" line.

Why would anyone want to see that garbage again? Especially after Regin was on fire with Spezza at the end of the year.
I agree, if Foligno makes the top-six its likely at the expense of Michalek or Fisher:

Regin-Spezza-Alfredsson (awesome in the playoffs)
Foligno-Fisher-Kovalev (was a line for a little while last season)
Michalek-Smith-???
Rutuu-Kelly-Neil

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I agree, if Foligno makes the top-six its likely at the expense of Michalek or Fisher:

Regin-Spezza-Alfredsson (awesome in the playoffs)
Foligno-Fisher-Kovalev (was a line for a little while last season)
Michalek-Smith-???
Rutuu-Kelly-Neil
Winchester. I love to keep Foligno and Fisher together. I like those, lots of chemistry already there.

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Totally agree but I dont think thats something Clouston would look at. I might be the person on these boards that MOST agrees with that
Fisher is a 3rd line center, we just don't have two better centers.

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Winchester. I love to keep Foligno and Fisher together. I like those, lots of chemistry already there.
It was doing well until Folingo broke his leg. You never know what line is going to have success in the regular season. Sometimes something works one year but fails another year and vice versa. Better to not worry about line combos to much and wait to see what happens IMO.

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I beleive Michalek has said a couple of times that he prefers the right side so maybe something like this could work:

Regin-Spezza-Alfie
Foligno-Fisher-Kovalev
Ruutu-Kelly-Michalek
Smith -Winchester-Neil

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for the record,

Michalek-Spezza-Alfredsson sucked last year and it was our "#1" line.

Why would anyone want to see that garbage again? Especially after Regin was on fire with Spezza at the end of the year.
I agree 100%, I really don't like Michalek playing with either Spezza or Alfie, I would be more content to throw Foligno up there then keep Michalek.

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Wouldn't mind trying Foligno on the top line with Alfie and Spezza

Michalek didn't generate any substantive offense last year

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I agree 100%, I really don't like Michalek playing with either Spezza or Alfie, I would be more content to throw Foligno up there then keep Michalek.
I would too actually, and when healthy I would have said so last year as well.

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The reality is that line combos aren't static. They will try one thing for a while, then switch it up every ten games or so to find a bit of chemistry. The way I see it is we have 5 legitimate top six forwards (Alfie, Spezza, Michalek, Kovalev, Fisher). I know a lot of people think Fisher is a third liner, but in terms of his salary and role on the team - like it or not, he is our second line centre. I personally have no problem with that because I like his overall game.

Guys like Regin, Foligno, Shannon (again, like it or not) and maybe one of the rookies are going to cycle through that 6th spot all year. All of those guys are young and are going to be hot and cold from time to time, and will move around in the depth chart.

As for the original post here - it would be awesome if Foligno could take that next step and become a legitimate top six forward. He looks good so far this year, he plays hard and has some good skill. Its easy to forget that he is still only 22 years old - younger than Regin, Butler and Wick.

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Why are people so quick to pencil inn a guy into top 6 when he shows flashes of a top 6 forward. Isn't the idea to have as talented and deep team as possible ?

Look at the hawks they had Ladd on the 3rd line and hes easily a top 6 guy on any other team.

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This is the tangled web you have to get through to make that happen:

1.You have to figure out where Regin can play that can be as effective - because Fisher isn't moving out of the top 6, nor is Michalek, Kovalev, Alfie, Spezza. So there's one option and it's Regin to 3rd line center.

2.Except...there is no room on the 3rd line. The 3rd line is Ruutu - Kelly - Neil - and don't let anyone say that's the 4th line, it's not. They get 12-15 a game.

3.If CC can juggle the times on ice so it's 18 minutes for Line 1, 18 for Line 2, 12 for line 3, 12 for line 4. Then he can manage the ice so there's no 4th line, just 3a and 3b, but it's ridiculously hard to do when there are penalties, powerplays etc.

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Fisher is a 3rd line center, we just don't have two better centers.
So what you're saying is you like FIsher better as the best 3rd line centre in the league more than an average 2nd line centre with a physical edge.

That's exactly what he is you know. To say he is a 3rd line centre is to say he's a top 3rd line centre that doesn't deserve 2nd line minutes or line mates.

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As far as I'm concerned this is the make or break year for Foligno if he wants to make the top 6.
I like the kid but he's been at it for a while now, he needs to make the jump or else I'd advocate trading him while he has value.

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So what you're saying is you like FIsher better as the best 3rd line centre in the league more than an average 2nd line centre with a physical edge.

That's exactly what he is you know. To say he is a 3rd line centre is to say he's a top 3rd line centre that doesn't deserve 2nd line minutes or line mates.
Basically yes. One of the best 3rd line centers or an average 2nd line center. Or an above average top 6 winger.

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I beleive Michalek has said a couple of times that he prefers the right side so maybe something like this could work:

Regin-Spezza-Alfie
Foligno-Fisher-Kovalev
Ruutu-Kelly-Michalek
Smith -Winchester-Neil
Foligno-Spezza-Alfie
Wick/Smith-Fisher-Kovalev
Smith/Wick-Regin-Michalek
Ruutu-Kelly-Neil

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Foligno's top 6 spot would come at the expense of Regin. That seems obvious...

If I had my way, I'd put Regin At center in the preseason to see how he looks with Michalek and Kovalev. Fisher could play his suited role on the third line with guys like Smith and Winchester.

Smith-Fisher-Winchester reminds me a lot of the old Schaeffer-Fisher-Neil line, which was awesome. Our bottom six would really be able to thrash their opponents around. This line could be ELITE defensively as well.

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Basically yes. One of the best 3rd line centers or an average 2nd line center. Or an above average top 6 winger.
This. And I still don't understand why people still have a tough time grasping this concept.

Fisher is the PERFECT 3rd line centreman. It's where he should be.

Foligno showed really good chemistry with Spezza at the end of two seasons ago. If he can continue to play physical, he could provide some room for Spezza.

Foligno - Spezza - Alfie
Michalek - Regin - Kovalev
Smith - Fisher - Butler/Winchester
Ruutu - Kelly - Neil



Gives us two good scoring lines and a pretty decent 3rd scoring line as well. 4th line is a beast too...

For the record, I don't think Butler has shown enough yet to warrant a spot in the lineup, but you never know yet...

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