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09-26-2010, 05:09 PM
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The senators management always screw up the young players rookie years, I cant see ottawa thinking that far ahead. They will call up cowen as he is needed or will stay on with ottawa.
If he goes to juniors, he CANNOT BE CALLED UP until his junior year is over.

Spokane DOES have a weaker team this season apparently (they went out in 7 in the first round last year), so it's unlikely they're in for a deep playoff drive; but to me that's even more of a reason to keep him in Ottawa.

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If he goes to juniors, he CANNOT BE CALLED UP until his junior year is over.

Spokane DOES have a weaker team this season apparently (they went out in 7 in the first round last year), so it's unlikely they're in for a deep playoff drive; but to me that's even more of a reason to keep him in Ottawa.
If he's in junior he's likely traded at the deadline to a contender. I seriously think he'd physically make a mockery of the WHL this year.

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09-26-2010, 05:30 PM
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If he's in junior he's likely traded at the deadline to a contender. I seriously think he'd physically make a mockery of the WHL this year.
Good point. It's a shame we can't tell Spokane not to trade him.

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If he goes to juniors, he CANNOT BE CALLED UP until his junior year is over.

Spokane DOES have a weaker team this season apparently (they went out in 7 in the first round last year), so it's unlikely they're in for a deep playoff drive; but to me that's even more of a reason to keep him in Ottawa.
how was nazem kadri and brayden schenn able to play a game for their respective clubs in the middle of the season...
i think they called it an emergency call up but im not sure how that works... can someone shed some light on this?

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how was nazem kadri and brayden schenn able to play a game for their respective clubs in the middle of the season...
i think they called it an emergency call up but im not sure how that works... can someone shed some light on this?
Isn't that just when it would be impossible to get a player from your AHL affiliate in time. Like say if someone had an injury during the morning skate and your AHL affiliate is on the road somewhere you're allowed to recall a junior prospect instead.

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how was nazem kadri and brayden schenn able to play a game for their respective clubs in the middle of the season...
i think they called it an emergency call up but im not sure how that works... can someone shed some light on this?
I thought they were considered Pro Tryouts?? maybe before they signed an ELC?

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Cowen played one game last year.

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If he goes to juniors, he CANNOT BE CALLED UP until his junior year is over.

Spokane DOES have a weaker team this season apparently (they went out in 7 in the first round last year), so it's unlikely they're in for a deep playoff drive; but to me that's even more of a reason to keep him in Ottawa.
Just because Spokane has a crap team this year is no reason to keep Cowen in Ottawa... that makes no sense...the only way he will be in ottawa is if he is if he earns a spot on the team.

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Just because Spokane has a crap team this year is no reason to keep Cowen in Ottawa... that makes no sense...the only way he will be in ottawa is if he is if he earns a spot on the team.
Agreed. A lot can be learned for a player like Cowen when he'll be the team's best player. He'll get all the PP time and really get to lead. It did a lot of good for Tyler Myers.

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Agreed. A lot can be learned for a player like Cowen when he'll be the team's best player. He'll get all the PP time and really get to lead. It did a lot of good for Tyler Myers.
Myers was a rare case, I can't think of a player who developed more in a single offseason than Myers. He was just a big guy who could skate in the summer of 08 and fall 09 he was dominating the WHL and helped us reach the Memorial Cup finals. One year later he wins the calder, helps his team finish top 3 in the conference and hits the 10G plateau and almost 50P.

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Agreed. A lot can be learned for a player like Cowen when he'll be the team's best player. He'll get all the PP time and really get to lead. It did a lot of good for Tyler Myers.
As HTV said expecting something Myers-like is unrealistic but I agree unless Cowen shows greatness after 9 games I would want him returned, especially if Campoli is playing decently by then

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If they all hit their potential, the

Karlsson - Cowen
Rundblad - Wiercioch

would bring man tears to my eyes.

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If they all hit their potential, the

Karlsson - Cowen
Rundblad - Wiercioch

would bring man tears to my eyes.
Lee - Gryba

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Myers was a rare case, I can't think of a player who developed more in a single offseason than Myers. He was just a big guy who could skate in the summer of 08 and fall 09 he was dominating the WHL and helped us reach the Memorial Cup finals. One year later he wins the calder, helps his team finish top 3 in the conference and hits the 10G plateau and almost 50P.
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As HTV said expecting something Myers-like is unrealistic but I agree unless Cowen shows greatness after 9 games I would want him returned, especially if Campoli is playing decently by then
I agree that expecting him to develop the way Myers did is unrealistic, it was just a recent case that I think is valid. I always think what might have happened if Myers had stuck in Buffalo his first year and Schenn had been returned to Kelowna instead of playing as an 18 year old.

People who say he can't learn anything else in junior are just way off the mark. There is so much more he can do as a defenseman imo, he really has all the tools to be a great two way player. I think his top end potential is that of a Ryan Suter.

Either way, I think he stays in Ottawa to start the season. He does look ready to play at this level. I'd like to see his 9 games then see him in Spokane and possibly captain Canada to gold in Buffalo.

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I agree that expecting him to develop the way Myers did is unrealistic, it was just a recent case that I think is valid. I always think what might have happened if Myers had stuck in Buffalo his first year and Schenn had been returned to Kelowna instead of playing as an 18 year old.

People who say he can't learn anything else in junior are just way off the mark. There is so much more he can do as a defenseman imo, he really has all the tools to be a great two way player. I think his top end potential is that of a Ryan Suter.

Either way, I think he stays in Ottawa to start the season. He does look ready to play at this level. I'd like to see his 9 games then see him in Spokane and possibly captain Canada to gold in Buffalo.
Pretty well agree with all of this.

Of course he'll start in Ottawa and most likely play the full 9 games (if Kuba was ready, I'm not sure that would be the case).

He still has a lot to learn, and junior is the place to do it.

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09-27-2010, 11:05 AM
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If today's practice lines and Dundas line-up give any indication, Cowen has a spot to lose on this team.

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I have already resigned mysellf to the fact taht he will be going back to junior. I just hope he is returned to Junior before Oct 30th, so I can see him play in Regina. Then I hope he is dealt to an Eastern Conference team in January.

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09-27-2010, 11:40 AM
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If today's practice lines and Dundas line-up give any indication, Cowen has a spot to lose on this team.
I keep it saying it, they really don't want to send him back to junior. He's had a spot to lose at this camp for a long time, it's just now looking a lot more like he's not going to lose it.

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I have already resigned mysellf to the fact taht he will be going back to junior. I just hope he is returned to Junior before Oct 30th, so I can see him play in Regina. Then I hope he is dealt to an Eastern Conference team in January.
I don't see any reason for you to come to that conclusion already.

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If today's practice lines and Dundas line-up give any indication, Cowen has a spot to lose on this team.
What are they...

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What are they...
Phillips-Karlsson
Campoli-Gonchar
Cowen-Carkner
Hale-Lee.

I hate the campoli pairing, that guy hasn't proven crap to be paired up in the top 4 with Gonchar over Cowen, Lee or Carkner.

I would like to see

Philips- Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Carkner- Lee
Benoit- Hale

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Phillips-Karlsson
Campoli-Gonchar
Cowen-Carkner
Hale-Lee.

I hate the campoli pairing, that guy hasn't proven crap to be paired up in the top 4 with Gonchar over Cowen, Lee or Carkner.
If anything they're giving Campoli a fair shake in order to get him going, his time is winding down.

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Cowen's coach in Spokane has said that he has nothing left to learn in junior & we can see by these preseason games that he is big enough & strong enough already for the NHL game. Even if Murray trades one of Lee or Campoli we will still have some good depth on defence with Lee as a 7th D & Hale, Benoit, Gryba & Wiercioch all in Bingo. So Ottawa can afford to keep him in Ottawa & let him practise & play with NHLers & learn the game directly from the best.

Cowen seems to keep getting better with every game & Ottawa can really use his size, strength, reach & toughness on defence. IMO Cowen & Carkner together are an upgrade & can be the new shutdown tandem, they are both huge & tough to play against. Trading Campoli for a pick might come in handy at the trade deadline.

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If they all hit their potential, the

Karlsson - Cowen
Rundblad - Wiercioch

would bring man tears to my eyes.
It moved.

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I have watched every game and he has played much better against me than he did with boys. I agree with his junior coach, junior would be a waste. Probelm is he would probably play down to their level as he did in the rookie camp. He can't go to the A so I think management will for sure give him the 9 games and I have a feeling he could be sticking, whether he is a scratch half the time or not.

I have been really impressed with his exhibition games whereas the rookie tournament he looked tentatve. He looked scared to unleash his size whereas with the men he is really going full tilt....me likey.

Kadri played a game last year as an emergency callup for injury, there is that loophole.

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