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09-24-2010, 09:32 PM
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If Souray gets waived.... we Oil fans should throw a party!

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09-24-2010, 09:44 PM
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If Souray gets waived.... we Oil fans should throw a party!
Hasn't he already been waived once, and nobody picked him up? Waiving him again won't do anything. Hold off on your party until he gets claimed or assigned to the AHL.

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09-24-2010, 10:45 PM
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I could see guys like Korpikoski and Prucha hitting the wire.
I'd Claim Prucha

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burying players in the minors is a damn joke. you signed the guy you should be stuck with him on the cap no questions asked.


Post of the thread right here, folks.



I'm just going to say that there is no reasonable explanation as to why the team should be stuck with a player and leave it at that.

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09-24-2010, 10:59 PM
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Post of the thread right here, folks.



I'm just going to say that there is no reasonable explanation as to why the team should be stuck with a player and leave it at that.

Mmmmmm, maybe lcarnegie is not so wrong. There should be at least a maximum amount of money a team could bury in the minor or other leagues.

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09-24-2010, 11:02 PM
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Hasn't he already been waived once, and nobody picked him up? Waiving him again won't do anything. Hold off on your party until he gets claimed or assigned to the AHL.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it would be the first step of putting him on re-entry waivers though. And someone would take him at a 2.7M cap hit/2.25M $$

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Lou ought to send Rolston down tomorrow and then recall him in a week or so, before camp breaks, assuming rules allow for such.

Doubtful than any team will bite, but worth seeing if another sqaud would be interested in him on the way back up to the show, for half ($2.5 mil) his pricetag.

If not and if a trade cannot be worked out for Salvador in the interim, then he is headed to the AHL Before Game One of the NHL season,
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Rolston's got a NMC

i.e. He can't be moved (including sent down to minors) unless he gives an OK. And I doubt he wants to go to the AHL (wherever the Devs farm team is)
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he has a ntc not a no movement

Rolston has a NTC and a 35+ contract.

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09-24-2010, 11:19 PM
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Rolston has a NTC and a 35+ contract.
True. But that does not mean he cannot be waived. If he had a No Movement Contract, it would.

Likewise, his age matters in waivers only to the extent that were he to clear waivers and remain in the minors, his full salary would count against NJD's cap. Which is not what I am proposing. You notice that in the "ideal" scenario I described, he is claimed by a team when he is headed back to the NHL (NJD) and having once again to be exposed to waivers. Only this time, if he is claimed, the "claiming team" is burdened with only half of his cap hit. And likewise, so would NJD.

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09-24-2010, 11:32 PM
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Hasn't he already been waived once, and nobody picked him up? Waiving him again won't do anything. Hold off on your party until he gets claimed or assigned to the AHL.
In order to get loaned to the AHL (and subsequently recalled, if the Oilers want to go down the Re-Entry Waiver path), he has to be waived again on or after the 25th.

A player cannot be loaned until they clear waivers during the "Playing Season Waiver Period" - which begins tomorrow.

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The Huet era will officially end in Chicago
Doesn't something have to begin before it can end? LOL

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Are Bruins allowed to place Savard on waivers while he is allegedly suffering from post concussion symptoms?

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Are Bruins allowed to place Savard on waivers while he is allegedly suffering from post concussion symptoms?
Why would they want to?

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Can anyone explain to me how re-entry waivers happen? Does a player have to be waived, cleared, and assigned to the minors before he can be recalled, thus putting him on re-entry?

I know the re-entry rule about each team (the player's old team and team that claimed him) having half the cap hit but I'm not 100% clarified on exactly how a player is put on re-entry waivers.

I guess my question is, when you recall a player from the minors that is not exempt from waivers, are you waiving him, thus placing him on re-entry waivers?

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Can anyone explain to me how re-entry waivers happen? Does a player have to be waived, cleared, and assigned to the minors before he can be recalled, thus putting him on re-entry?

I know the re-entry rule about each team (the player's old team and team that claimed him) having half the cap hit but I'm not 100% clarified on exactly how a player is put on re-entry waivers.

I guess my question is, when you recall a player from the minors that is not exempt from waivers, are you waiving him, thus placing him on re-entry waivers?



say you recall player X who is not exempt from waiver--by recalling him he has to clear waivers--that is why every year one or two players who get sent down--know they are going down for the year because if they get recalled during the year they will get claimed. The only time a player who is not exempt from waivers would not have to clear it is if cleared it previously in the last 30 days if I am not mistaken

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09-25-2010, 03:48 AM
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I'd Claim Prucha
Yes, but he'd look even better in a Pens uniform.... if they can make the space for him, of course.

Don't be surprised if you see the Pens putting a couple of forwards on the waiver wire. The youngsters have been playing well thus far @ camp.

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09-25-2010, 04:06 AM
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Riiiiiiiiiiight. Posts like this make me laugh. If a player is beat out for a spot on the team, than he's waived. Shouldn't matter what his salary is.
So tell me how Turco beat out Huet for the same spot?

Turco:53 GP, 52 GS, 2.72 GAA, .913% with 4 SO
Huet: 48 GP, 46 GS 2.50 GAA, .895 SV% with 4 SO

Huh...

Kind of look similar. One has a worse GAA, while another has a better SV%.

Other than Huet makes more than Turco, aren't they kind of interchangeable?

As for getting paid what your worth. Isn't that value on the owners/GMs that sign the players and not the players themselves?

If you pay a player top 6 minutes and he is only a grinder, isn't it your fault you're paying him that much instead of his market value?

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09-25-2010, 04:18 AM
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True. But that does not mean he cannot be waived. If he had a No Movement Contract, it would.

Likewise, his age matters in waivers only to the extent that were he to clear waivers and remain in the minors, his full salary would count against NJD's cap. Which is not what I am proposing. You notice that in the "ideal" scenario I described, he is claimed by a team when he is headed back to the NHL (NJD) and having once again to be exposed to waivers. Only this time, if he is claimed, the "claiming team" is burdened with only half of his cap hit. And likewise, so would NJD.
I don't think the Devils would accept any scenario that had them paying half Rolston's cap-hit elsewhere. Less so as it'd be true for next season also.
That's not even going to solve their problem this year, as that by itself wouldn't put them under. Which matters all the more, as they'd have only 20 players on the active roster.

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i see souray being this years nylander tbh..

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Why not use one of the 3 they already have?
He said good.

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I could see guys like Korpikoski and Prucha hitting the wire.
not saying it won't happen given the current bedlam at the F position for the Yotes, but shouldn't Maloney be able to get a late pick out of either guy?

I think they would be both claimed in no time.

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So tell me how Turco beat out Huet for the same spot?

Turco:53 GP, 52 GS, 2.72 GAA, .913% with 4 SO
Huet: 48 GP, 46 GS 2.50 GAA, .895 SV% with 4 SO

Huh...

Kind of look similar. One has a worse GAA, while another has a better SV%.

Other than Huet makes more than Turco, aren't they kind of interchangeable?

As for getting paid what your worth. Isn't that value on the owners/GMs that sign the players and not the players themselves?

If you pay a player top 6 minutes and he is only a grinder, isn't it your fault you're paying him that much instead of his market value?
One goalie was playing behind the eventual Stanley Cup champs.

The other goalie played for Dallas.

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Post of the thread right here, folks.



I'm just going to say that there is no reasonable explanation as to why the team should be stuck with a player and leave it at that.
Not the player, but the cap hit for sure otherwise teams can give out ridiculous contracts based on potential and Huet them, effectively spending beyond the cap for potential.

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he has a ntc not a no movement
He's also a 35+ and sending him down wouldn't really save anything.

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He's also a 35+ and sending him down wouldn't really save anything.
Yep.

The Devil is stuck with that one.

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