4th line will be
Richardson-Schenn-Lewis
Westgarth & Clune as guys in the pressbox who'll dress on occasions..
Ummm no. Did you read Lombardi's comments or see what Terry Murray has done for 2 years. It will be Richie, Westy and either Schenn or Lewis...not both..
Would it be inappropriate to have Clune and Zeiler fight each other for the agitater spot? I mean, actually giving them boxing gloves and putting them in a ring to see who wins. Maybe a steel cage match?
Voinov will go down once he is healthy.
Franson might stick and if he does then it changes things a bit.
I could also see Clune sticking and Lewis going down but I think that Lewis has earned his shot.
I have only seen tapes of camp and the games so far and then of course read here about how the pre-season is going so I am basing my observations on limited and second hand info.
Martinez will either be kept or dealt according to what I have heard his agent is to have said. I dunno.
Total formalities here, not a single surprise. Really things appear pretty set but there are a couple guys with an outside chance of impressing their way onto the roster that were not sent home (Schenn, Loktionov, Moller, Muzzin, Hickey ... that's about it IMO),
Ummm no. Did you read Lombardi's comments or see what Terry Murray has done for 2 years. It will be Richie, Westy and either Schenn or Lewis...not both..
The thing is.. We finally have the options to roll with a solid 4th line, without an enforcer, maybe it's time TM switches things up a little. You're probably right, it'll be Richardson and Westgarth alongside either Lewis or Schenn but my guess towards the lineup in the preseason was Richardson-Schenn-Lewis, so I'm going to stick by it.
Clune over Zeiler and Schenn and Lewis. If Parse disappoints (which he probably will), it'll be Loktionov or Moller, hopefully Lokti, he played really well in that preseason game
I have only seen tapes of camp and the games so far and then of course read here about how the pre-season is going so I am basing my observations on limited and second hand info.
Martinez will either be kept or dealt according to what I have heard his agent is to have said. I dunno.
Maybe I've missed something, but who would want Martinez anyway?
The thing is.. We finally have the options to roll with a solid 4th line, without an enforcer, maybe it's time TM switches things up a little. You're probably right, it'll be Richardson and Westgarth alongside either Lewis or Schenn but my guess towards the lineup in the preseason was Richardson-Schenn-Lewis, so I'm going to stick by it.
Clune over Zeiler and Schenn and Lewis. If Parse disappoints (which he probably will), it'll be Loktionov or Moller, hopefully Lokti, he played really well in that preseason game
after 90 games in the AHL last year to watch these guys they sent there three top scorers back to Manch Elkins, azevedo and Holloway and they all had points in pre season .Kind of surprised me when they said thet need offence.
I could see Harrold being sent down (and clearing), because Hickey is better.
I thought Harrold was easily the best defenseman in the Colorado preseason game (Drewiske and Hickey played that game also).
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Originally Posted by AKAY47
Clune will win the battle vs. Zeiler
And you know this based on what?
IMHO, Zeiler is a better agitator than Clune, and has outplayed him in the preseason. they both have similar contracts, so either one could feasibly make the roster. I just don't see how Clune has any upper hand over Zeiler at the moment.
Also, I don't understand why everyone seems to be penciling Richardson in to the 4th line. He could easily be the 2nd line LW.
Clune has the upperhand on Zeiler because Zeiler has been mostly feces during his NHL stints. Another reason comes straight from Clune's mouth:
"There isn’t anyone who can dial it up to the level I can dial it up"
The kid has so many fights in his young career, sometimes going up against guys 50 pounds heavier than him. Zeiler blows kisses while Clune has Pete Harrold always skating behind him since he's pushing the wheelbarrow that houses Clune's stones. Clune is the epitome of the attitude and edge Lombardi wants on this team while Zeiler is, more often than not, an embarassment.
Zeiler looked good against the Avs drawing penalties because that was the first time Foote has been on the ice with him since Zeiler took a 5-minute boarding major against him two seasons ago. It's great that he drew the penalties but it was preseason and Foote didn't give a **** obviously. Also, the impetus for drawing all of those penalties was Zeiler putting his team down a man for 5 minutes in a regular season game.
I know Zeiler scored but Clune looked good against Phoneix as well. He also showed the biggest difference between himself and Zeiler by looking for a fight against a bigger guy.
Clune has always been the better player as evidenced throughout their careers. Zeiler is a guy on a one-way contract who didn't get a sniff of NHL time last year, and for good reason.
Moller
Clune (if Cliffy continues his strong play)
Franson
Ersberg
I want Clifford to succeed as much as anyone. He has had some hype, but...
Am I missing something? He has been decent, as a 2nd round pick should. I just haven't seen this whole WOW thing which puts him on the Kings this season.
This is the 2nd pre-season in a row where he is running around looking for fights, and pretty much sucker-punching guys who didn't want to fight. The game at Staples on Thursday, he looked more intent on tapping guys trying to get a fight, rather than showing off his actual playing skills.
We have an old school coaching staff, and they couldn't have been happy with the Bissonnette thing.
I want Clifford to succeed as much as anyone. He has had some hype, but...
Am I missing something? He has been decent, as a 2nd round pick should. I just haven't seen this whole WOW thing which puts him on the Kings this season.
This is the 2nd pre-season in a row where he is running around looking for fights, and pretty much sucker-punching guys who didn't want to fight. The game at Staples on Thursday, he looked more intent on tapping guys trying to get a fight, rather than showing off his actual playing skills.
We have an old school coaching staff, and they couldn't have been happy with the Bissonnette thing.
I totally agree. I wasn't too happy with Clifford's Bissonnette fight. If he wants to fight, he needs to take off the shield. He also needs to show that he can pick a good place and time to do such things. He didn't impress me watching the game the other night. I have high hopes for him, but I don't think this season is his time to be in the lineup. I think we all have huge expectations since he's so much like Simmonds, and how that turned out (being awesome I mean).
The difference between Clune and Cliffy to me isn't that they both will fight or agitate or run around and generally get things going, the difference to me is where they will flesh out as NHLers. Clune is pretty good and I like him, I want to see him on the team but Cliffy is capable of doing what he does and still has the ability to be much more given time and opportunity.
I still see Cliffy getting sent down before Clune but, I posted what I thought could happen or wanted to see happen. We are truly neck deep in character guys and that is a great thing, I just want to see us make a serious effort to develop skill guys too but is another discussion.
4th line will be Richardson-Schenn-Lewis
Westgarth & Clune as guys in the pressbox who'll dress on occasions..
that's not too shabby.
But i would stay away from it. This would be 3 natural centers on one line.
But still an interesting combination.
Time will tell.
My most concern is Parse - Stoll - Williams.
That line looks like they put any garbage together they find.
Williams is handled like he is gone soon because of his contract. Parse has to show
something he can't do IMO and jeah they added Stoll because someone has to play center and they don't wanna waste some serious talent.
Loktionov needs 1 more year to dominate in Manch. Westgarth plays only when we absolutely need a heavyweight in the lineup. Cliff can take care of business otherwise. If Cliff and Schenn dont look ready at 10 games....send them back to juniors....replace the 4th line likewise...
