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09-24-2010, 06:55 PM
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Expect Lars Eller to play on the wings..

Jacques Martin just mentionned it in the pre game interview, he plans to try Eller both LW and RW saying he will have better chances to play in the top 6 this way, Martin didnt say who he expect to center the third line but my guess is either Desharnais or Maxwell..

Martin doesnt seem to have any faith in Pouliot saying the other night that he still had alot of things to learn..

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I'm hoping Desharnais. He's clearly ready for the NHL, IMO.

But I think you're looking at a bottom 6 of something like;

Pyatt - Boyd - Lapierre
Pouliot/Darche - Halpern - Moen

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09-24-2010, 07:16 PM
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I'm hoping Desharnais. He's clearly ready for the NHL, IMO.

But I think you're looking at a bottom 6 of something like;

Pyatt - Boyd - Lapierre
Pouliot/Darche - Halpern - Moen
Pouliot won't be banished to the 4th line in game 1. I can see him and Lapierre doing well on the 3rd with either Boyd or Maxwell.

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I'm hoping Desharnais. He's clearly ready for the NHL, IMO.

But I think you're looking at a bottom 6 of something like;

Pyatt - Boyd - Lapierre
Pouliot/Darche - Halpern - Moen
Yeah thats probab.. But your bottom lines have little offensive upside then..

Personally I would rather have DD centering it too and if there is any taker for Moen, I would let him go.. I would rather have Ryan White or Conboy taking his spot..

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09-24-2010, 07:19 PM
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I'm loving Eller with Gomez and Gionta, he's fast, drives the net, good passer and Boyd seems to be pretty reliable ala Moore of last season, after 1 period of pre-season lol.....

Eller-Gomez-Gionta
Cammy-Plecks-Kostitsyn
Pouliot-Boyd-Lappierre
Moen-Halpern-Pyatt

Solid line-up imo!

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09-24-2010, 07:35 PM
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Pouliot won't be banished to the 4th line in game 1. I can see him and Lapierre doing well on the 3rd with either Boyd or Maxwell.
I don't see Martin splitting up Pyatt & Lapierre after the playoffs last year. Boyd is more like Moore than Halpern, as well.

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09-24-2010, 08:07 PM
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I'm loving Eller with Gomez and Gionta, he's fast, drives the net, good passer and Boyd seems to be pretty reliable ala Moore of last season, after 1 period of pre-season lol.....

Eller-Gomez-Gionta
Cammy-Plecks-Kostitsyn
Pouliot-Boyd-Lappierre
Moen-Halpern-Pyatt

Solid line-up imo!
Looks good to me!

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09-24-2010, 08:23 PM
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I am not confident about this idea of throwing a rookie into the kind of messes that the Montreal top-6 gets themselves into. If Eller plays in the top-6, Martin may have to dial down their minutes' difficulty which means more work for Halpern dealing with top opposition.

Presumably that means Gomez gets him because he gets considerably less tough minutes by Plekanec (though they are by no means soft minutes!).

He must have huge confidence in Eller to do this, but I worry that it will end up like the similar MaxPac experiment.

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I am not confident about this idea of throwing a rookie into the kind of messes that the Montreal top-6 gets themselves into. If Eller plays in the top-6, Martin may have to dial down their minutes' difficulty which means more work for Halpern dealing with top opposition.

Presumably that means Gomez gets him because he gets considerably less tough minutes by Plekanec (though they are by no means soft minutes!).

He must have huge confidence in Eller to do this, but I worry that it will end up like the similar MaxPac experiment.
Personally I think the center position is a much more difficult position to assume, even if its the third line C spot, you have to be very cerebral and solid in all aspects of the game, not saying Eller hasnt what it takes but considering Pouliot and A.Kost have proved nothing so far in their carreer, it brings more quality depth on the top 6.. Eller is a big skilled guy that should compliment Gionta and Gomez pretty well, thats at least where I think he fit the best..

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09-24-2010, 08:45 PM
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Was this another premature thread started by HFBoards Canadiens fortune telling mainstay?

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Eller should play center. I realize top 6 is very important, but allowing the kid to not play against top lines in his natural position is key IMO. Can he move up and play top 6? why not? just not permanently IMO. It takes the jam out of the bottom 6 removing a skilled player like that.

If say, DD made the team(because he deserved it, not cuz i slot him there or anything) as 3rd line center I'd be more open to the idea because of his offensive potential, but as it stands now, with boyd, pyatt, halpern or lapierre on 3rd line I'm not impressed.

Also, we've had ****** center depth for years, the one time we have a good sized center prospect who can play and provide depth, we want to move him to the wing? We saw how important having a good two-way 3rd line center was when we acquired moore last year.

Besides, playing AK or Pouliot with a ****** center will just ruin his development/production on 3rd line. I say Eller stays on 3rd but plays occasional wing time.

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Pouliot-Desharnais-Lapierre would be a VERY interesting 3rd line IMO.

Unfortunately, there would be too many players for the 4th line and I think that Moen, Halpern, Boyd and Pyatt have all their regular spots with the team.

I like those guys but I find it sad to see Desharnais get cut again.

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Imo Jacques Martin should put the vets in the top 3 lines, and let the young guys in the fourth line.

This is what the lineup should look imo.

Ovechkin - Crosby - Malkin
Parise - Thornton - Heatley
Zetterberg - Stamkos - Gaborik
Hall - Tavares - Eller

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Imo Jacques Martin should put the vets in the top 3 lines, and let the young guys in the fourth line.

This is what the lineup should look imo.

Ovechkin - Crosby - Malkin
Parise - Thornton - Heatley
Zetterberg - Stamkos - Gaborik
Hall - Tavares - Eller
Not enough toughness

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Not enough toughness
Sorry forgot to include the defense and the goalies

Lidstrom - Pronger
Markov - Kaberle
Subban - Hedman

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According to everyone on these boards, Eller is a tank. Here is how I represent it.


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I'm loving Eller with Gomez and Gionta, he's fast, drives the net, good passer and Boyd seems to be pretty reliable ala Moore of last season, after 1 period of pre-season lol.....

Eller-Gomez-Gionta
Cammy-Plecks-Kostitsyn
Pouliot-Boyd-Lappierre
Moen-Halpern-Pyatt

Solid line-up imo!
i agree, i like this line up

i wish our D looked this good

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His puck posession skills are exactly what's needed to complete the second line. We've seen it before where Gomez/Gio struggle to cycle and control the puck in the offensive zone, making them sort of a one-trick-pony with all their success coming off the rush.

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According to everyone on these boards, Eller is a tank. Here is how I represent it.

Looks like something out of Doom (the id video game)

From what I saw tonight, I say let Eller center his own line. Pouliot is much better suited on the wing of Gomez-Gio. Not that he did bad by any means, it's just that I see him being capable of doing it. I don't care that he won't play in the top6 it will give us ridiculous depth and be capable of running 3 scoring lines. He is an elite 3rd line centerman even at his young age based on this pre-season and even fits the mold with his physical play, so why not.

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Pouliot-Desharnais-Lapierre would be a VERY interesting 3rd line IMO.

Unfortunately, there would be too many players for the 4th line and I think that Moen, Halpern, Boyd and Pyatt have all their regular spots with the team.

I like those guys but I find it sad to see Desharnais get cut again.
Boyd is pretty good himself in the FO department so I could possibly see Halpern and Darche out of the lineup in game 1.

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i agree, i like this line up

i wish our D looked this good
I think we have one of the best defensive lineups in the league.

Funny how different two opinions can be.

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I don't see Martin splitting up Pyatt & Lapierre after the playoffs last year. Boyd is more like Moore than Halpern, as well.
To me splitting up Pyatt and Lapierre doesn't make a difference with the additions of Boyd and Halpern. It's pointless giving Pouliot a 4th line role going into the season. Right away you've given up on him. Giving Pouliot a chance is way more important than keeping Pyatt and Lapierre together.

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Eller,Gomez,Gio= wins

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Personally I think the center position is a much more difficult position to assume, even if its the third line C spot, you have to be very cerebral and solid in all aspects of the game, not saying Eller hasnt what it takes
It's still a lot easier to play center vs. third-liners than it is to play wing vs. Semin-Backstrom-Ovechkin.

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but considering Pouliot and A.Kost have proved nothing so far in their carreer, it brings more quality depth on the top 6..
Kostitsyn has proved he is a perfectly capable top-6er, and to boot one who can play Plekanec's tough minutes on his off-wing, no less. The fans hate him but Kostitsyn just isn't a problem.

Which brings us to Pouliot. He has proved he can play in the NHL. I'm not confident about him in the top-6, but at least he's not a rookie. Eller is an unknown quantity and he's being thrown into the fire; like I said, much like MaxPac was. I don't think that's very prudent, not least because Martin will have to protect that line a little more.

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