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09-30-2010, 05:28 PM
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He did keep quiet for a long time and was ignored...
Yes because asking for a trade but only lifting it for 4-6 teams is going to get him traded. Then getting injuried for the whole year made it so much easier.

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09-30-2010, 05:29 PM
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Depends where the play starts and ends. If the play goes from the offensive zone back to the defensive zone he is screwed as he can't skate. If it starts and stays in his own zone he isn't too bad until the play goes into the corners. Really soon as he moves out of position and then has to go back he becomes a liability.
Thanks. Good luck this year. Do us all a favor and nail Vancouver to the wall.

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09-30-2010, 05:36 PM
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In my opinion JDD >> DD.

Dubs looks way to clutzy out there to be effective. I don't understand why many people don't appreciate JDD. He had a good year behind the worst NHL team. I don't get how DD jumped ahead of JDD in the depth department.

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09-30-2010, 05:39 PM
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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.

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09-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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The other thing with Souray is, there was no need to go public and bash his way out of Edmonton. What he did on the trade deadline by pretty much saying he'd go to almost every team in the NHL was all it took to realize he wanted out.

As that day went on his list grew, but somehow so did his injury problems.

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09-30-2010, 05:45 PM
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Phoenix fan here, I don't know much about Souray except that he wore out his welcome up by you and then some. As a player, just how much of a defensive liablilty is he really? I know this slap shot is huge, but Phoenix runs a structured defensive system.
His defensive liability is highly overstated. He certainly isn't a defensive specialist, and is suscpetible to being made to look foolish by highly skilled danglers and whatnot, but he is pretty good in the defensive zone, and not bad in front of the net. His main problem is that he is slower than a lot of the guys he is expected to cover. The biggest issue is the injury problems in my mind, not the defensive liability.

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09-30-2010, 05:51 PM
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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.

wow, missed that, thanks for the update.

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09-30-2010, 05:57 PM
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I really hope Gerber does not get picked up. OKC needs a goalie.

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09-30-2010, 05:59 PM
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His defensive liability is highly overstated. He certainly isn't a defensive specialist, and is suscpetible to being made to look foolish by highly skilled danglers and whatnot, but he is pretty good in the defensive zone, and not bad in front of the net. His main problem is that he is slower than a lot of the guys he is expected to cover. The biggest issue is the injury problems in my mind, not the defensive liability.
He was brutal on the PK last year. He would just cross check guys and then watch them tip pucks in.

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He did keep quiet for a long time and was ignored...
You know this for a fact? It sounds like it when you say stuff that way. Do you know for a fact that Tambellini was not trying to make a deal during that time? Souray's hefty contract, multi-year term and chronic injury history help make him a player that is hard to move.

He was hard to move before he made it into a public mess and likely ruined whatever trade value he might have had IMO.


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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.
Solid move. If true clearly they want him no where near any of their prospects. It would keep him playing and in game shape and also keep both parties well clear of each other.

Where did you hear that and what team is he going to?


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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.
Where was it reported in those terms?

I also noted in Jim Matheson article: "Souray wasn’t invited to camp, except to take his fitness test."

Read more: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...#ixzz113KSIs1U

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09-30-2010, 06:02 PM
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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.
So how do they assign him to a differnt AHL team? sort of like Nylander? I don't get it, I didn't know you could borrow other teams your players.

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now I feel like a bum, I thought he was referring to something broken on Gregor's show...saw nothing.

...on that note, I don't really think Souray will get anywhere near the OKC team.

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So how do they assign him to a differnt AHL team? sort of like Nylander? I don't get it, I didn't know you could borrow other teams your players.
I am sure you remember when we had no farm team? We loaned most of our players out to various teams at that time. It is not an uncommon practice.


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now I feel like a bum, I thought he was referring to something broken on Gregor's show...saw nothing.

...on that note, I don't really think Souray will get anywhere near the OKC team.
So this is getting confusing. Are they sending him to another AHL team or not and where is this all coming from?


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09-30-2010, 06:09 PM
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I wouldn't go so far as to say I doubt he'll clear, but I wouldn't be surprised if a couple teams took a bit of a look.
Yeah, you have to think Minnie and Washington might take a look, Philly as well.

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So this is getting confusing. Are they sending him to another AHL team or not and where is this all coming from?
Supermassive stated something as fact, I assumed I'd missed it on Gregor's show or some such and went looking and saw nothing to suggest it was such...

I'm just going to assume they'll let him sit and rot OR put him on re-entry waivers.

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Supermassive stated something as fact, I assumed I'd missed it on Gregor's show or some such and went looking and saw nothing to suggest it was such...

I'm just going to assume they'll let him sit and rot OR put him on re-entry waivers.
As of right now I don't think anyone is saying anything are they? Sounds like it's a wait and see right now.

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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.
I like it, but what was your source for this?

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As of right now I don't think anyone is saying anything are they? Sounds like it's a wait and see right now.

yeah, no legit sources on what he said so far.

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Souray was already waived once and cleared earlier this summer. Is there an expiry of waivers that has happened that we have to do it again? Or are we free to send him down to OKC as he has cleared before, but are just doing it again in hope someone takes him off our hands? Sorry if already asked.

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I like it, but what was your source for this?
Everyone in the media.

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Souray was already waived once and cleared earlier this summer. Is there an expiry of waivers that has happened that we have to do it again? Or are we free to send him down to OKC as he has cleared before, but are just doing it again in hope someone takes him off our hands? Sorry if already asked.
Apparently this waiving allows them to send him where ever in the AHL and it actually gets him cap hit off the books.

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Everyone in the media.
Like who? Link?

On Souray, Oil not expecting a claim. This allows assignment to OK City, possible recall waivers, and gets cap hit off books to start season

Souray has not been informed by Oilers of what the next move will be: recall waivers, or OK City assignment


Of Milhouse, Barnes(who is now on twitter), Matheson, Gregor, Spector, and Rishaug the above is all I found and from Spector. Even McKenzie hasn't really said what will happen.

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Well, for what it's worth, MacKenzie just stated they will wait until the waiver deadline (Friday) and likley won't make any decisions on where he goes, if at all, for a bit. He mentioned a loan was a possiblity, but nothing has indicated this will happen just yet.

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To repeat for those who missed it: Souray will be assigned to an ahl team other than okc, and they will not attempt reentry waivers at any time in the future. He will be traded when a suitable offer is made.
Wait a second. If he's assigned to the AHL (doesn't matter where), how can the Oilers still look for a place to trade him?

What team is going to trade for his contract just to risk losing him on re-entry waivers on the way back up?

If they assign him, he's got to come back if someone's going to trade for him, assuming they're acquiring him for their NHL team.

If they're still thinking about trading him, sending him down wouldn't make much sense.

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