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10-08-2010, 03:24 AM
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not in the nhl, but patrick roy... sending his own son out in a junior game?

bringing us to a new topic... dirty goalies?

quickly... hextall, belfour, roy (again)... not familiar enough with anything before the '90s...
Billy Smith, but to be fair he'd slash his own guys too.

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10-08-2010, 06:04 AM
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bringing us to a new topic... dirty goalies?

quickly... hextall, belfour, roy (again)... not familiar enough with anything before the '90s...
Gerry Cheevers... when he was facing Boris Mikhailov

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10-09-2010, 10:36 AM
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Haha, I'm fine. But seriously, there is a huge difference between elbowing someone in the head (which is a penalty, and can be a major if it's violent enough) and a shoulder to the head, which was always legal under the rules and is sometimes unavoidable if you check a player who is leaning over.

Anyway, this is really starting to go in circles now.
Would it surprise you to know that the clean-hitting Scott Stevens is 14th all-time in career penalty minutes?

And just as the blow to the head on QBs & helmet to helmet hits were always legal in the NFL, the shoulder to the head being a legal hit will soon be gone in the NHL.

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10-09-2010, 10:39 AM
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Would it surprise you to know that the clean-hitting Scott Stevens is 14th all-time in career penalty minutes?
He played forever and got into a ton of fights as a younger player.

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And just as the blow to the head on QBs & helmet to helmet hits were always legal in the NFL, the shoulder to the head being a legal hit will soon be gone in the NHL.
Starting when? The new headshot rules do not prohibit it.

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10-09-2010, 10:46 AM
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He played forever and got into a ton of fights as a younger player.



Starting when? The new headshot rules do not prohibit it.
Wonder why he got in a ton fights? Maybe because he was dity?

I said soon. Not now.

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10-11-2010, 09:49 PM
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One goalie that I thought was dirty was Greg Stefan.

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Wayne Cashman
Bobby Schmautz
Tiger Williams
Glenn Anderson
Garth Butcher
Dave Schultz
Steve Durbano
Geoff Courtnall
Good call on Durbano. He makes most of these guys look like Mother Teresa.

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10-12-2010, 07:53 AM
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Wonder why he got in a ton fights? Maybe because he was dity?

I said soon. Not now.
Stevens wasn't someone I would call a dirty player. He got into a ton of fights but a lot of that had to do with his intensity. In a way he's not very different than Lindros that way. Both men gave thunderous hits but their hits were clean. Stevens just had the winning intangible. Think about this, the guy played for 22 years and I think he had about 6 or 7 elbowing penalties in his career. That's incredible. Stevens was cut from an old cloth, he played hockey the way it should be played, for some reason in 2010 a player like him can get shunned by some fans, though it shouldn't be that way.

I'll throw some names of dirty players out there:

Hatcher, Clarke, Marchment, Suter, C. Lemieux, Samuelsson, Simon, etc

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Lyle Odelein should be mentioned. He might not have done the dirtiest stuff but boy this guy could sucker punch people in scrums.

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Tie Domi
Darius Kasperitus

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Although I may have missed it in an earlier post, I was wondering how long it would take to get to Domi. Yeah he answered the bell when he got called out, but he instigated a lot of those fights with cheapshots.

Plus of course the notorious Scott Neidermayer incident.

One who hasn't been mentioned yet is Messier's counterpart from the Battle of Alberta: Jim Peplinski.

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About a year ago, I remember we had a thread about the "All-Time Dirty Team", and IIRC, most of us agreed that it probably could beat a team of the classiest players ever just based on raw skill, not even factoring in toughness.

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About a year ago, I remember we had a thread about the "All-Time Dirty Team", and IIRC, most of us agreed that it probably could beat a team of the classiest players ever just based on raw skill, not even factoring in toughness.
Yes, here it is. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=776626

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With this 5 on the ice, I'd be scared for my career,

Claude Lemieux - Bobby Clarke - Marty McSorley
Ulf Samuelsson - Bryan Marchment

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Derek "Boogieman" Boogaard might be up there for consideration. Too bad he never had any other talent.

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10-14-2010, 06:23 PM
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Stevens wasn't someone I would call a dirty player. He got into a ton of fights but a lot of that had to do with his intensity. In a way he's not very different than Lindros that way. Both men gave thunderous hits but their hits were clean. Stevens just had the winning intangible. Think about this, the guy played for 22 years and I think he had about 6 or 7 elbowing penalties in his career. That's incredible. Stevens was cut from an old cloth, he played hockey the way it should be played, for some reason in 2010 a player like him can get shunned by some fans, though it shouldn't be that way.I'll throw some names of dirty players out there:

Hatcher, Clarke, Marchment, Suter, C. Lemieux, Samuelsson, Simon, etc
I thought Stevens was a dirty player from day 1.

He was a great player right from the get go. But he was over the top physically. I think he was fortunate to have played with Langway and then be coached by Lemaire. He still found a way to do what he seemed to enjoy the most, rail players, as it was still legal to throw head-shots as long as it was with the pulverizing modern shoulder pads.

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