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10-11-2010, 08:46 AM
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BAH!

I wanted him on my 2nd line.

That said, time to get Visnovsky a defensive rock in Richard Matvichuk, D.


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10-11-2010, 09:33 AM
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The Golden Gaels select Ulf Dahlen, the 6'2 power forward known for his ability along the boards, two-way awareness and work ethic, who starred at the '87 World Juniors and '93 World Championships and scored a couple of times representing Sweden in the '91 Olympics, the '96 World Cup and at both the '98 and '02 Olympics. He was described at the '02 Olympics as a "dependable two-way veteran". He averaged over 25 goals per season his first seven NHL years and scored over 300 NHL goals in nearly 1000 NHL games. He had 120 NHL powerplay goals and an impressive 49 NHL game winners, including nine seasons of 4+ GWGs. He was big, strong and somewhat clutch. He had three significant playoffs and 40 points in 85 career NHL postseason games.



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just over three years with the North Stars, Dahlen scored 94 goals and was a driving force in helping the club advance to the Stanley Cup finals in 1991, where the Stars eventually lost to the high-powered Pittsburgh Penguins.

Dahlen's most productive season came in 1992-93 when he had 35 goals and 39 assists for 74 points. Voted co-most popular player with Mike Modano amongst his Minnesota teammates Dahlen and the North Stars moved to Dallas in 1993-94.

On March 19, 1994, Dahlen was traded to the San Jose Sharkds and in 78 games between the two teams, registered 25 goals and 69 points. During the 1996-97 season, Dahlen was traded to the Chicago Blackhawks and in 1998, represented his homeland at both the Winter Olympics and the World Championships, where he helped Sweden capture the gold medal.
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# Player Name POS "HHOF Monitor" Points
1 Nicklas "Lidas" Lidstrom D 2276,05
2 Peter "Peter the Great" Forsberg C 1505,50
3 Markus "Nazzy" Naslund LW 1161,00
4 Mats "Sudden" Sundin C 1077,50
5 Borje "King" Salming D 957,40
6 Daniel "Alfie" Alfredsson RW 682,00
7 Mats "Le Petit Viking" Naslund LW 573,50
8 Tomas "Tommie Gun" Sandstrom RW 572,00
9 Stefan "Rico" Persson D 450,80
10 Ulf "Robocop" Samuelsson D 434,95
11 Kent "The Magic Man" Nilsson C 410,00
12 Thomas "Tommy" Steen C 397,45
13 Ulf Dahlen RW 393,50
14 Hakan "Hawk" Loob RW 390,00
15 Calle Johansson D 374,30
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The 10 and 2, for those of you who don’t know, is the ability to set your feet in time as you skate. The left foot is positioned at the 10 o’clock hour of your pocket watch and your right foot is set at the 2 o’clock hour of your grandfather clock.

Actually , it doesn’t matter what kind of clock you use, 10 and 2 is a term that NHL players have used for years to describe a player’s footwork.

The 10 and 2 has been around for quite some time. Ulf Dahlen, a big power forward who scored more than 300 goals in 900-plus NHL games, was the pioneer of the 10 and 2. He used to go to it quite often behind the net, but only at about half the speed of Crosby.
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10-11-2010, 11:18 AM
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Sorry guys, been a busy weekend. I came up with two picks for now, but I think I'll leave today's until tomorrow so I can actually put some thought in to it.

For now, Winnipeg will grab LW, Andrew Brunette and D, Oleg Tverdovsky. Really wish I had more research time this weekend.

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10-11-2010, 12:20 PM
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Toledo selects C Tim Young




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5th in Scoring 1977

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After a successful junior career with the Ottawa 67's, Young made the jump to the NHL, appearing in 63 games with the North Stars in 1975-76. By his second NHL season Young was able to post career highs for goals, assists, and points. He also made an appearance in the 1977 NHL All-Star Game.

On January 15, 1979, Young scored five goals against the New York Rangers during an 8-1 Minnesota romp at MSG.
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Tim Young was an offensive wizard, particularly because of his playmaking ability. He was a swift skater and deft puck handler as well as a an accurate shooter, but playmaking was his forte. He was an excellent specialty teams player as he was a good penalty killer and was also often used on the point of the North Stars power play. In fact Tim even played a few shifts here and there on defense while at regular strength when injuries depleted the Stars lineup.

1980-81 was perhaps the greatest if not most surprising moment in North Stars history - their Cinderella run to the 1981 Stanley Cup finals. After scoring 25 goals and 66 points in the regular season, Young upped his play in the playoffs when he was teamed with super rookie Dino Ciccarelli with 3 goals and 14 assists in 12 games as the Stars fell just short of the championship. Perhaps one of the reasons the Stars fell short was that Tim hurt his knee late in the playoffs.

"Tim Young has a world of talent," once said his former coach. "He can do almost anything he puts his mind to do on a hockey rink."

It was true, and its too bad his career ended prematurely. He ended his career with 628 games played, many in a quietly spectacular form. He scored 195 career goals and 341 career assists for 536 points.


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10-11-2010, 12:23 PM
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Philadelphia selects C Art Jackson



3x Top 15 Goals (10, 10, 14)
2x Top 15 Assists (5, 12)
3x Top 20 Points (9, 13, 19)

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A slick playmaking centre, Art Jackson had a fine eleven-year NHL tenure in the 1930s and 40s. Statistically his finest years came with the Boston Bruins in the mid-1940s when they lost some of their top skaters to military service. Art was the youngest member of the famous hockey family that included star Harvey "Busher" Jackson.

The Toronto native excelled as a junior with the Toronto Marlboros then the St. Michael's Majors when they won the Memorial Cup in 1934. When he came up to the NHL in 1934, he was termed one of the "war babies" with former St. Mike's mates Nick Metz and Pep Kelly because they were all born during World War I. During his first three pro seasons, he played a checking role with the NHL's Maple Leafs and the Syracuse Stars of the AHL. After spending a year each with the Boston Bruins and New York Americans, Jackson returned to Beantown in 1939-40 and remained there for the next five and a half years.

In Boston, Jackson became a solid playmaker and checker playing as the third centre behind Bill Cowley and Milt Schmidt. He was on hand when the "black and gold" won their second Stanley Cup in three years in 1941. When the Bruins lost the "Kraut Line" of Schmidt, Dumart, and Bauer to military service, Jackson assumed a key role in keeping the team competitive. He registered consecutive 20-goal seasons in 1942-43 and 1943-44 playing on a line with Cowley and Herb Cain. During the early '40s he also had the opportunity to play with his brother, Harvey.
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In 1943-44, while playing on a line with Bill Cowley and Art Jackson, set the NHL record for points in one season with 82. A very popular player with the Bruins fans, Cain's other big moment with the Bruins came in 1945-46 when he became just the 13th player in NHL history to score 200 goals in a career.


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10-11-2010, 12:34 PM
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I was completely split between taking Jackson and Young. You made the decision for me.

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10-11-2010, 12:34 PM
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The Abbotsford Pilots take two time Czechoslovakian MVP, Vladimir Ruzicka, C.

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10-11-2010, 12:56 PM
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Some nice picks going on here.

I'll be back a bit later to make mine.

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10-11-2010, 01:08 PM
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The Tigers draft Joe Carveth.



339 points, 509 games
11 NHL seasons
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tied-lead in goals in Detroit 1943 Stanley Cup
tied-2nd in assists in Detroit 1950 Stanley Cup
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Regina selects one of the hardest hitters of all-time, defenseman Bill Juzda.

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The Abbotsford Pilots take two time Czechoslovakian MVP, Vladimir Ruzicka, C.
Dammit. 4th time already that someone got taken from my shortlist (Allison, Philips, Straka were the others).

I guess that's what I get for not leaving a list before passing out.

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Dammit. 4th time already that someone got taken from my shortlist (Allison, Philips, Straka were the others).

I guess that's what I get for not leaving a list before passing out.
I had that problem on the first three picks, but I had to get up to work normal person hours the past two days and I decided to use that to my advantage.

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10-12-2010, 08:03 AM
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Philadelphia listpicks defenseman Bert Marshall.

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10-12-2010, 08:05 AM
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The Tigers draft Albert Langlois.



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A rugged, no-nonsense defenseman who played almost 500 regular season NHL games, Albert Langlois wore four different sweaters during his career. Breaking in with a single game in Canadiens colors during the 1957-58 campaign and returning for seven postseason games with the reigning dynasty, Langois had his name added to the Stanley Cup as a rookie.

Cracking the lineup to start the 1958-59 schedule, the man who teammates referred to as “Junior”, soon proved to be one of the league’s premier stay-at-home defensemen, regularly putting his 6-foot, 205-pound frame to good use.

He laid out opposing players, usually with devastating body checks but occasionally with his fists when the situation called for it. Whatever the method, his hard-hitting style always lifted Forum fans from their seats in appreciation.

The Stanley Cup engravings that came his way in both 1959 and 1960 were more richly deserved than was his first mention, coming after entire seasons of dedicated effort to team success.

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10-12-2010, 08:07 AM
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Queen's University selects 6'1 left winger Nick Libett, a respected checker who could score and lead, spending most of his 12 years in Detroit as an alternate captain, two of those years with the 'C'. He played in the 1977 all-star game and represented Canada at the world championships. He scored 505 points in 982 career games but it is his speed, work ethic and effectiveness away from the puck that he is renowned for.



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... used his speed and quick hands to be an asset at both ends of the ice. He reached the 20-goal mark six times and would have been better known if he played on one of the NHL's better clubs.

Beginning in 1968-69, the talented winger was a regular in the Wings' lineup for eleven seasons during some lean times. He recorded six 20-goal seasons and scored a career-high 31 in 1971-72 playing on a line with Marcel Dionne and Bill Collins.
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It was without the puck where Libett was most respected. His work as a checker rated him among the best in the NHL.

We'd play against Montreal and we''d play against the (New York) Rangers," Libett said. "They had right wings like (Hall of Famers) Guy Lafleur and Rod Gilbert and I'd have to check them."

He checked them pretty well. Just ask Gilbert. "Every time I played against him, I cringed, because I knew I wouldn't have any room and I was going to have a tough time," Gilbert said.

A durable, hard-working sort, Libett missed only two games his first six NHL seasons and once played 389 consecutive games. "He had that determination and drive you'd like to see all the players on your team have," noted Dave Lewis, Libett's NHL opponent for seven seasons. "You'd slow him down and he'd keep coming. You'd hit him and he'd get back up. And he was relentless as a checker."

Libett performed these challenging and often dirty tasks for a team which made the playoffs just twice during his 12 seasons as a Red Wing. "Playing on a bad team, it's difficult, but the motivation comes from within," he explained. "I like to think I have a lot of pride."
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10-12-2010, 08:18 AM
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Good pick by Zamboni on Langlois; Myself and Dave had been looking at him.

With that said our next pick is defenseman Keith Brown.

In a province which hasn't produced many NHL players, the choice of Brown as the best NHLer to come from the province may not seem as much of an accomplishment. Still what Brown was was a solid NHL player and he's going to be a good fit on our defense.

More on Brown can be found at the following link:

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10-12-2010, 08:19 AM
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Mikael Renberg, RW



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He may not have been as noted of a physical player as the other two, but in reality he possessed great upper body strength and a surprising nasty streak.

Renberg grew up idolizing shifty, pint-sized dynamo Mats Naslund, but he was anything but. He was not a great skater, though he had incredible balance on his skates. His long stride combined with uncanny anticipation skills always kept him in good position.

Because of his great anticipation skills, defensive responsibilities of the line fell to Renberg. This explains why Renberg's scoring statistics and recognition trail that of his linemates, but in no way was he any less important to the team's success. Far from it, actually. Without such a dedicated team player willing to sacrifice personal achievement for the betterment of the team, the Flyers top line would have been doomed.

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10-12-2010, 09:04 AM
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With yesterday's pick we'll take

Réjean "Reggie" Lemelin, G

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Goalie Reggie Lemelin made over 500 appearances in an exemplary career with the Atlanta/Calgary Flames and the Boston Bruins. He backstopped his teams to 236 wins and was respected for his positive outlook in the dressing room.
# Named Calgary's sports media Athlete of the Year, 1984.
# Played for Team Canada in Canada Cup, 1984.
# Winner, Calgary Flames Molson Cup, 1983-84 (most 3 star selections)
# Winner, Calgary Flames Molson Cup, 1984-85 (most 3 star selections)
# Played in National Hockey League All-Star Game, 1989.
# Shared (with Andy Moog) William M. Jennings Trophy, 1989-90.

Vezina record: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 7th


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Lemelin has a really impressive Vezina voting record. He finished as runner-up in 1984 to the rookie, Barrasso, and even had more first place votes. He was 3rd the next year, and also finished 4th, 7th, 7th. He was even 8th in hart voting in 1983. He finished 4th, 5th, and 9th in sv% in the years it was recorded, which excludes 1981 and 1983, when he was potentially top-10 as well. He was an impressive 262-136-53 in the regular season and though he suffered some playoff disappointments, he was outstanding in the 1988 playoffs after taking over for Andy Moog. He stopped 89.5% of shots that playoff year when the league average was just .869. He also performed well in the 1981, 1984, and 1985 playoff in a losing cause.
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In 1987-88 Lemelin was moved to Boston where he was essential in their voyage to the Stanley Cup finals. Most people will of course remember the Bruins started Andy Moog for the final series against Moog's old Edmonton Oilers teammates. But Lemelin actually played the lion's share of games that post season, posting a 11-6 record in 17 post season games.
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10-12-2010, 09:17 AM
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Great pick on Lemelin by TheDevilMadeMe, myself and Dave had discussed taking him as our #1 goalie before settling on Bryzgalov.

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10-12-2010, 09:21 AM
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With today's pick, London selects Mike Bullard, C

-674 points and 703 PIM in 727 NHL games.
-Pittsburgh Penguins captain from 1984-1986.
-Pittsburgh Penguins MVP in 1983-84.
-Pittsburgh Penguins Player's Player Award in 1981-82.

Goals finishes: 7th, 9th, 18th
Assists finishes: 19th
Points finishes: 11th, 19th
PP goals finishes: 8th, 9th, 11th, 15th


His 329 goals in a mere 727 games puts him Top-50 all time in NHL career goals per game, in the middle of excellent company:
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40. Luc Robitaille* 0.467
41. Peter Bondra 0.465
42. Bill Barber* 0.465
43. Roy Conacher* 0.461
44. Peter Stastny* 0.461
45. Steve Yzerman* 0.457
46. Steve Shutt* 0.456
47. Joe Sakic 0.454
48. Gordie Howe* 0.453
49. Mike Bullard 0.453
50. Frank Mahovlich* 0.451
51. Jean Beliveau* 0.451
52. Paul MacLean 0.451
53. Marian Gaborik 0.450
Lanny McDonald* 0.450
55. Paul Gardner 0.450
56. Joe Nieuwendyk 0.449
57. Keith Tkachuk 0.448
58. Rick Middleton 0.446
59. Bernie Geoffrion* 0.445
60. Yvan Cournoyer* 0.442
http://www.hockey-reference.com/lead...me_career.html

After 11 NHL seasons he went and played 10 seasons in Germany.


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10-12-2010, 09:29 AM
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I drafted Bullard in the ATD10-Double-A Draft and was wondering when he'd go here. The 6'0, 190 lbs tough centre/right winger was twice top-10 in NHL goals with 51 and 48. His 329 goals in a mere 727 games puts him Top-50 all time in NHL career goals per game, in the middle of excellent company:

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40. Luc Robitaille 0.467
41. Peter Bondra 0.465
42. Bill Barber* 0.465
43. Keith Tkachuk 0.464
44. Roy Conacher* 0.461
45. Peter Stastny* 0.461
46. Steve Yzerman 0.457
47. Steve Shutt* 0.456
48. Joe Sakic 0.454
49. Gordie Howe* 0.453
50. Mike Bullard 0.453
51. Frank Mahovlich* 0.451
52. Jean Beliveau* 0.451
53. Paul MacLean 0.451
54. Lanny McDonald* 0.450
55. Paul Gardner 0.450
56. Joe Nieuwendyk 0.449
57. Rick Middleton 0.446
58. Bernie Geoffrion* 0.445
59. Yvan Cournoyer* 0.442
60. Darryl Sittler* 0.442
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After 11 NHL seasons he went and played 10 seasons in Germany.

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I drafted Bullard in the ATD10-Double-A Draft and was wondering when he'd go here. The 6'0, 190 lbs tough centre/right winger was twice top-10 in NHL goals with 51 and 48. His 329 goals in a mere 727 games puts him Top-50 all time in NHL career goals per game, in the middle of excellent company:


http://www.hockey-reference.com/lead...me_career.html

After 11 NHL seasons he went and played 10 seasons in Germany.
Thanks. Actually, following the link, it is 49th now. Not sure whose GPG average went down since then (Edit: It was Tkachuk).

Where did you find that he could play right wing? hockey-reference lists him strictly as a center.


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Where did you find that he could play right wing? hockey-reference lists him strictly as a center.
I can't recall exactly at the moment. But I remember it was a good source. Hockey reference is very unreliable about position. Dbhockey is better usually, lists Bullard as a "forward" which is code for he played more than one position.

Here at very reliable because specific info hockeydraftcentral it mentions he started playing LW in 84/85:
http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/1980/80009.html

I'll hunt it down some time. If you play him at center, it's his natural position, despite being more of a finisher than set up guy.

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LOL, silly me thinking that Steve Thomas would be available since he wasn't picked in the MLD. I forgot about a certain someone in the main draft.

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over the last three days...

stolen from the Queen's shortlist: Lemelin, Young, Marshall, Langlois,
taken from the Queen's longlist: Brunette, Sanderson, Matvichuk, Carveth, Brown
decidedly not in Queen's plans: Kurvers, Palmateer, Zezel, Tverdovsky, Ruzicka, Renberg
watched to see how far they'd fall: Zhitnik, Bullard
overlooked by Queen's scouting: Puppa, Dorey, Jackson
interesting picks: Makarov, Milks, Juzda

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