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10-06-2010, 03:04 PM
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I think we determined Parent had played too many games in the last two season to miss out on re-entry. Peters, however; seems to fall below the money limit so I think he may be ineligible for re-entry.

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Hahahaha yes!!!!!! A LEGIT HEAVYWEIGHT! Let the goonage begin.
Pretty sure this is exactly what people said when hordichuk came in.

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If you thought Grabner wasn't going to be claimed on waivers or that Yanick Perreault was a good 4th line C heading into training camp.... wow.
Yannick Perreault? Really? ....wow.


As far as Grabner, seems Islander injuries forced their hand. Look today at Parent, another first round pick, sailing through waivers as are many other players around the league. This is not NHL '11 Sparky...real world and things don't happen they way your joystick dictates.

Really.

Wow.....

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10-06-2010, 03:10 PM
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Man.

Peters was a 2nd round pick.

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10-06-2010, 03:14 PM
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Man.

Peters was a 2nd round pick.
Sometimes you have to spend a high pick to get that toughness in your line-up or you just have a bunch of pansies

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10-06-2010, 03:30 PM
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Hordi experiment is OVER. Hopefully Peters can kick some ass when needed and he's a big intimidating guy so that's alright. Good move again by MG

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10-06-2010, 03:31 PM
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Pretty sure this is exactly what people said when hordichuk came in.
This made me curious.

Link: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=530808

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If this means Cowan is gone, I am happy. Hordichuk is tough, and can actually play a semi-regular shift. When with Nashville he always seemed to score against the Canucks, too.
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This is a good signing if true.
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If it's true, pure awesomeness. Finally, a guy who will stick up for his team and not lose (sorry Cowan, you don't count).
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Darcy Hordichuk had 12 fighting majors last season and 60 total PIM's. Love the sounds of that from a 4th liner.

This guy is nasty. But so are his hands. I'm sick of seeing Canucks getting pummelled. Thumbs up.
If only...
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He's a loose cannon that isn't afraid to fight anybody and will go nuts to protect his teammates.
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sick and tired of the godards and stortinis taking advantage of the canucks with no heavyweight. good signing
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Toughness is never a bad thing.


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Ugh....
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Hordichuk? Give me a break. Absolutely useless, can't even manage 4th line duty. There's a reason the guy averages about 2 shifts a period for his entire career.

At least we didn't trade for the useless slug.
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What a completely useless signing. Good thing this is a two-way deal.
Enforcers don't help you win cups.
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this is horrible, Mike Gillis will be fired by mid season, the guy has not a clue and he has zero respect from the other GM's in the league.

hordichuck is a ridiculous signing, canucks would be better off bringing a young guy up from Manitoba

canucks will not be even sniffing the playoffs with Gillis calling the shots

brutal
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Love the addition of Hordichuk. Gives us a legitimate knuckleduster to deal with some of the dirtbags in the NW; Stortini leaps to mind.
Har. Now for a really scary one, check out the Ryan Johnson signing thread...

Link: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=531004

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10-06-2010, 03:34 PM
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"Toughness is never a bad thing."

Oh me from 2 years ago, if only you knew.

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10-06-2010, 03:35 PM
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"Toughness is never a bad thing."

Oh me from 2 years ago, if only you knew.
If I'd only known Rypien would be the one to speedbag Stortini...Hordichuk never seemed able to actually beet Storts, and Storts sucks at fighting.

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10-06-2010, 03:40 PM
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"Toughness is never a bad thing."

Oh me from 2 years ago, if only you knew.
I think a team requires proper levels of pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence.


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If I'd only known Rypien would be the one to speedbag Stortini...Hordichuk never seemed able to actually beet Storts, and Storts sucks at fighting.
You'd think that he'd have an easy time with Huggy Bear, but apparently he just wasn't fast enough.

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10-06-2010, 03:42 PM
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Haha, if you look at those comments and check-out the comments over on the Panthers forum they are eerily similar! I guess anytime you pick-up a goon he looks better then the goon you currently have.

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10-06-2010, 03:46 PM
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Haha, if you look at those comments and check-out the comments over on the Panthers forum they are eerily similar! I guess anytime you pick-up a goon he looks better then the goon you currently have.
They had him before, though, and figure they're getting back the same player that left them when he was 24. They'll find out the reality soon enough.

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10-06-2010, 03:47 PM
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Ya, I'm aware of the difference between waivers & re-entry waivers.

The point is that he has already gone through waivers to get sent down, so to recall him - he'd have to go through re-entry waivers - which is what the question to Murphy was.

Can Parent be recalled without passing through waivers? Peters?

Unless I'm absolutely missing something.

Can anyone shed light on this?
Murphy was asked if he had to clear waivers, he does.

If his AHL salary is $105,000 or less (I think) its regular waivers, if the salary is greater than $105,000 the player has to clear re-entry waivers.

Peters does not have to clear re-entry waivers. He may have to go through waivers again though depending on the time and games played etc that determine waiver eligibility.

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10-06-2010, 03:51 PM
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Haha, if you look at those comments and check-out the comments over on the Panthers forum they are eerily similar! I guess anytime you pick-up a goon he looks better then the goon you currently have.
Well, a couple of our comments were right...he was certainly better as a scrapper than Cowan.

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10-06-2010, 03:53 PM
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Well, a couple of our comments were right...he was certainly better as a scrapper than Cowan.
But Hordichuk unlike Cowan was unable top attract bras.

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I seem to remember being pleased when Gillis signed Hordichuk and I thought his first season here was actually pretty decent. Last year, I don't think he brought a lot toughness and was sort of useless once Rypien showed that he was not only a better all-around player but a better fighter too. It seems like his reputation as a tough guy has really deteriorated over the past couple of seasons too.

I like this move though, there aren't a whole lot of heavyweights out there who can take a regular shift too. If you can't have one of those guys, I'd rather have a guy who knows his role and doesn't have delusions of grandeur.

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10-06-2010, 04:15 PM
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I like the move. If he does end up with the team he's much cheaper on a better contract and is a great team guy while being a slightly better fighter then Hordi. Good move.

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Great move by Gillis. Peters makes much much less in the minors.

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10-06-2010, 04:44 PM
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Me in the Ryan Johnson thread

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Man, if we get Sundin...Sundin-Sedin-Kesler-Johnson would be the best group of centers in the division...

Edit - Hey, I wonder if the Backes offer sheet had anything to do with Johnson being available. Andy Strickland says that the salary the Blues were negotiating Backes was in the $1.2 million range...we just doubled it, Backes and Johnson play similar roles for the Blues, and we sign Johnson for about the difference...

Shrewd.

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Oh Ryan Johnson...
Such a perfect fit on paper.

If only games were played on paper

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Oh Ryan Johnson...
Such a perfect fit on paper.

If only games were played on paper
Paper pucks don't break your feet!

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Hordi looking to go after a few Nucks.

I'm starting to see that enforcers need the threat of demotion every once in a while to re-enforce what they are brought in for. Brashear, Laraque et all forget what their role is and end up being useless.

If not challenged or threatened, they become expendable. A comfortable enforcer is as good as gone.

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Paper pucks don't break your feet!
I don't know why I thought of the Mythbusters when I read this lol

I'd like to see them try to break bones with paper.

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Hordi looking to go after a few Nucks.

I'm starting to see that enforcers need the threat of demotion every once in a while to re-enforce what they are brought in for. Brashear, Laraque et all forget what their role is and end up being useless.

If not challenged or threatened, they become expendable. A comfortable enforcer is as good as gone.
The little note at the end is interesting about waivers

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Peters will report to the Manitoba Moose and his $500,000/$75,000 split on his two-way deal means he doesn't require waivers as a Canucks roster option.
I know a 2-way deal has no impact on waiver eligibility but can somebody (i.e. Wetcoaster lol) clear up what exactly exempts you from passing through waivers once you've done so already?

Perrault and Tambellini don't have to go through re-entry waivers if they get called up IIRC.. I'd imagine it's their salary that dictates that?

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