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10-07-2010, 01:17 PM
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McKenzie's Underdog top 10 Rookies

Stepan tops the list.

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1. Derek Stepan of the New York Rangers. Really, really like this kid. Great pedigree, a Minnesotan who played at Wisconsin and was one of the best players at last year's World Junior Championship. Hockey smart, with and without the puck.
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he's not going to be an underdog much longer if all this hype keeps up

im waiting for the wave of posters jumping off a bridge in November if he's not on pace for 40 goals

my hopes are just as high as everyone else....we just need to remember that it might take some time...the NHL is a pretty damn hard league

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Also depends on what role he has. Will he be centering Avery and Fedotenko all season or will he be on the top line?

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I try not to overhype, but McKenzie is a guy I give a lot of credit to on a regular basis, aside from the fact that he has a tendency to not factor size into his analysis.

Stepan isn't a kid that we can afford to bust. But, being he's 20 and has already made the team, it seems relatively unlikely.

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Also depends on what role he has. Will he be centering Avery and Fedotenko all season or will he be on the top line?
you are correct sir

i just want him to succeed in whichever roll the put him in...whether it be 3rd line or 1st

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Also depends on what role he has. Will he be centering Avery and Fedotenko all season or will he be on the top line?
I'm sure he'll move around throughout the year. I loved him between Fro and Gabby that first game. I'd like to see him get a longer look in some reg season games with them, but I'm fine with him centering any of the top 3 lines as long as all three lines are producing.

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Wow. I can't remember the last time such a respected pundit had such high praise for a Rangers prospect.

Still think Stepan might benefit with some kind of stint in Hartford, a couple of months or so, but this is a very nice thing to read.

He's spot on about Loktionov, too. That kid has kind of flown under the radar to some degree, because the Kings have Kopitar and Schenn. He's really, really talented, though. He's a highly skilled playmaker. Damn, that team is going to be awesome in two years.

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Not to take away anything from Stepan, but he doesnt really "top" the list.

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So here you go, a very personal and highly subjective list of 10 rookies, in no particular order, who didn't make the Top 10 rookies, but who, for one reason or another, could be heard from this season

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My prediction for Stepan is 14 goals 28 assists this year. Not a bad rookie year by any means

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Not to take away anything from Stepan, but he doesnt really "top" the list.
Troll! oh well my bad. Although he does still top the list if you want to get technical haha!

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Can't wait till next year to hear what folks say about Kreider.

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My prediction for Stepan is 14 goals 28 assists this year. Not a bad rookie year by any means
that'd be a really successful year, especially if he's on the third line or splitting time on the first and third.

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Not to take away anything from Stepan, but he doesnt really "top" the list.
Yeah, it's kind of weird that he would say that and then number all the players...

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Derek will end up centering Frolov and Gabby by Thanksgiving.

25 goals, 35 Assists and the Calder Trophy

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Can't wait till next year to hear what folks say about Kreider.
"Congrats on making the Rangers!"



Stepan=Ridley

Don't trade him for the 2011 equivalent of Bobby Carpenter.

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I'm in love with Stepan, but my hopes for this year dont go past seeing him able to keep up for the whole season. college to the nhl is no joke, the most important things he learns this year are the speed of the nhl and initiate the contact, don't absorb it...his natural talent will do the rest

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Not to take away anything from Stepan, but he doesnt really "top" the list.


I'm glad we're not the only ones who recognize Stepan's work ethic and natural hockey intuition, it will make us look less homer as we praise him all year.

Hopefully everyone stays positive about him, even if he doesn't meet our first year expectations. Which, I'm not even sure I know what those are yet, personally.

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I can see him with a 20 goal year

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That would be impressive, considering Tavares, Stamkos, and Duchene all barely hit 20 as rookie and they were top 3 picks.

Plus Stepan is a pass first guy. We'd really have reason to celebrate if he hit 20.

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no way stepan gets 20 goals. i think stepan gets 14 goals 25 assist. 39 pts for a rookie isnt bad

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Prucha hit the 30 goal mark in his rookie year and he was drafted in the 8th round. I am speculating on a 20 goal campaign due to his performance in the preseason and only time will tell, I don't think it is that out of the question.

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Thats nice to read about a NYR prospect.

I could see him hitting 12 - 15 goals and 25 - 30 assists. I'd be really surprised if he hits 20 goals this year. However, I think he'll be in the top 6 for most of the season once everything shakes out. Third line makes sense to start and get him used to the pace, plus he's got two vets who he clicks with on that line, but I think he's going to step it up and show he deserves more ice team before too long.

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Not surprised at all. This kid is the real deal. The harder the competition, the better he gets. The only reason why he's not being looked at as the #1 center is #1 minutes is a defensive concern, guaranteed, otherwise, this kid has the tools. His SH goal in preseason showed it all. Rookie of the year....Derek Stepan!!!! yeah boy!!!!!!!!

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while it may be a little much to expect him to be able to centre Alex Frolov and Marian Gaborik on the Rangers' No. 1 line, I keep wondering if he's not the Rangers' best option there and just allow him to grow into the position
I think we'll see him on the 3rd line for the first 21 games then as he gets a hold of the defensive game, he'll move up.


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aAs a serious Stepan fan and having seen him... 12-15 goals with around 25 - 30 assists. And this is him playing between 1st and 3rd lines. This puts him between 37 points and 45 points.... Anything else and he would be exceeding my expectations for a rookie 1st/3rd line center.

Its really his goal total which will keep his point totals down but I feel that if he gets comfortable in the league we might see him shoot a bit more as the season progresses but then we also have to take into account that he has definitly never played a 82 game schedule at such a hard pace.

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