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06-15-2012, 03:49 PM
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I couldn't be happier. The guy obviously had no integrity at all.

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But....but.....Ron McLean personally vouched for Auger!
how many playoff games has ron mclean reffed? maybe he should retire too.

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how many playoff games has ron mclean reffed? maybe he should retire too.
More evidence to the fact that Ron McLean is a fool and should consider facts before allegiances.

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06-16-2012, 02:45 AM
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Boy must he feel stupid.
That's assuming he's self-aware enough to even think of it. You give him more credit than I would.

And good riddance to bad rubbish. Hopefully the first step in cleaning up the refs. Long, long overdue.

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Burr was obviously right about the guy. They should give him back his fine $$$.

Next is Ron Maclean! His hack job ruined CBCs relationship with one of their bigger hockey markets. Seriously, the entire west coast wants nothing to do with them. Can't imagine the people who run HNIC are happy about that.

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Good riddance. One of the most unprofessional refs in league history.

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Burr was obviously right about the guy. They should give him back his fine $$$.

Next is Ron Maclean! His hack job ruined CBCs relationship with one of their bigger hockey markets. Seriously, the entire west coast wants nothing to do with them. Can't imagine the people who run HNIC are happy about that.
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Boy must he feel stupid.
Good riddance! I wonder what would happen if Burr spoke out about him again?

Seriously though, he should get his money back. Giving him that fine was BS. What does Ronny have to say now?

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06-16-2012, 04:16 AM
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got this off puck daddy

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...6472--nhl.html

fortunately the headline doesn't match the article.

this guy pulled a nogger on me or something. whatever it was it is its slow, ambling and apparently difficult to describe.


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06-16-2012, 04:41 AM
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I don't get it. Before the entire Burrows and Auger incident we barely heard of this guy... in fact the guy has been down the radar for more than a decade as a REF!

Yes we're angry, but some people suggesting he should get hit by a puck are complete morons.

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06-16-2012, 05:00 AM
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to play devil's advocate here..
  • doesn't seniority play a big factor in who refs playoff games?
  • since the inclusion of the second referee, the number of required officials increased by 1/3. that naturally weakens the talent pool.
  • referees are a neutral party, and are therefore also the enemy of any partisan crowd or team. pat quinn exploited this to great affect until fines started being brought in.
  • a ref in the nhl has one of the hardest jobs in sports:
    • calling everything like the the fans (said they) wanted resulted in the dead puck era.
    • calling a game is more an art than a science and this naturally leads to confusion by fans, though learned fans and all players typically understand what and why something was called (or not called).
    • replacement officials always get exploited by nhl players.
    • IIHF officials have proven to be terribly biased
  • its still 100% better than the nba officiating

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06-16-2012, 05:34 AM
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Should've happened 3 years ago, when his attempt to screw over a player changed the outcome of a game.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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06-16-2012, 05:43 AM
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Good riddance to Stephan Auger, the most patently horrible ref in league history. He's also the only reason I've ever written a personal letter of complaint to the NHL in nearly 30 years of watching hockey.

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I have always believed Burrows. One hundred percent.

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06-16-2012, 11:02 AM
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Auger injured me. I was at the game and hurt my throat yelling at the scummy *****. Could not believe the reffing, and that game clearly ruined his reputation, and the resulting furor epxosed ron mclean as an ass.

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739 regular-season games and 10 playoff

because its the cup...



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06-16-2012, 12:56 PM
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Auger also worked the infamous game in montreal where Shane Doan was accused of using a slur to describe a quebecois official. I saw this on the main board.

So, basically Auger was involved in arguably the two ugliest ref incidents in recent NHL history. Probably for the best that he's retired.

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That's pathetic. I can't believe a ref that's been proven to call games to his whims and desires is still employed by supposedly the finest league in the world.
You saw some of this year's playoffs right? Inconsistent and terrible officiating is the norm.

This is a league with 3 sets of rules that they enforce.

Fall rules - try to make calls that they discussed over the summer and want to implement. After a while, GM's whine and complain about too many of those calls being made.

Winter rules - rules discussed over the summer are relaxed and back to the way it was before.

Spring/Playof - no desire to make any penalty calls.

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06-16-2012, 01:23 PM
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That's pathetic. I can't believe a ref that's been proven to call games to his whims and desires is still employed by supposedly the finest league in the world.
I don't think you understand what the word "proven" means.

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06-16-2012, 01:27 PM
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I don't get it. Before the entire Burrows and Auger incident we barely heard of this guy... in fact the guy has been down the radar for more than a decade as a REF!

Yes we're angry, but some people suggesting he should get hit by a puck are complete morons.
it says enough about Auger that he only officiated 10 playoff games in 12 seasons. You factor in that it would take about 3-5 years for a new official to earn the respect to make it to the next level and get assigned playoff games. So, for a 12 year guy, he should have had between 7-9 years of getting playoff work and only got 10 games? That's what, a total of 2 playoff series? Maybe 3?

Of the other NHL referees who have been employed by the league for 10 or more years, how many playoff games have they officiated? How does Auger rank amongst his peers of similar seniority?

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you're right - maybe we should go with European refs

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I'm reading where the league investigated a game between the Rangers and the Islanders and the Islanders blasted Auger in the media. I can't remember the last time the league took a complaint given to the media first

here's our thread about it

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=890518

but I can't find anywhere where anything was done about it

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interesting that the Doan incident got politicians (pandering to French voters) involved. Gilles Duceppe even tried to stretch the truth to get him kicked off Team Canada. Doan admitted to saying something like he was accused of but an actual slur was wrongly attributed to him (it was probably Cuju) by the linesman according to the investigation.

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I don't think you understand what the word "proven" means.
Go back and watch the tapes. No one could admit to it for fear of damaging the integrity of game but it happened.

Somewhere right now Ron MacLean is crying.

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Go back and watch the tapes. No one could admit to it for fear of damaging the integrity of game but it happened.

Somewhere right now Ron MacLean is crying.
I have seen the "tapes." I have seen Stephane Auger make some pretty bad calls during his career. I agree that he is not a good referee in terms of his skills, and that the NHL is probably better off without him as it would be difficult to replace him with a referee that is not more competent than him. However, I still do not think you know what the word "proven" means, as none of the allegations against him have never been proven. The Shane Doan saga came close, but even then, the NHL never rescinded the penalty dispensed in game and simply declined to further discipline Doan (and it's worth noting Shane Doan admitted to making the remarks in question anyways). It's certainly never been proven that he "calls games according to his whims" as you said. I do not see how you can believe that it has, unless you have some kind of psychic link to the inside of Auger's mind and can read his thoughts accordingly.

It seems fairly obvious to me that the NHL simply grew tired of him being a lightning rod for controversy, even though none of the allegations against him were ever substantiated, and had him "retired."


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Boy must he feel stupid.



Ronnie MacLean? Why don't you ask him?

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I have seen the "tapes." I have seen Stephane Auger make some pretty bad calls during his career. I agree that he is not a good referee in terms of his skills, and that the NHL is probably better off without him as it would be difficult to replace him with a referee that is not more competent than him. However, I still do not think you know what the word "proven" means, as none of the allegations against him have never been proven. The Shane Doan saga came close, but even then, the NHL never rescinded the penalty dispensed in game and simply declined to further discipline Doan (and it's worth noting Shane Doan admitted to making the remarks in question anyways). It's certainly never been proven that he "calls games according to his whims" as you said. I do not see how you can believe that it has, unless you have some kind of psychic link to the inside of Auger's mind and can read his thoughts accordingly.

It seems fairly obvious to me that the NHL simply grew tired of him being a lightning rod for controversy, even though none of the allegations against him were ever substantiated, and had him "retired."
You don't think Auger breaking the rules and then obviously officiating at a level below NHL standards with questionable calls obviously caught on tape is a proven case of bias? Granted the statement I made almost two years ago had some emotional zeal to it but at the same time I don't think you can dispute Auger's personal bias entered into his performances.

I am fascinated by you, I'm wondering why you care so much?

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