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10-17-2010, 01:50 PM
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Is there something in the system the Canucks employ that allows their Dmen to get hit like Ballard did? It's not just Ballard, it's happened more than one would expect, to other dmen. Ehrhoff gets crunched . As does Edler, but he is bigger so it doesn't seem as bad.


One of the most durable, toughest Dmen in the league comes to the Canucks with hip surgery and proceeds to get concussed 4 games in??? ...Unreal. And it's his first concussion correct?
I haven't seen the play, but is Ballard one of the guys who has been pushed to his off-side?

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10-17-2010, 02:19 PM
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^ He was on his left (proper) side. Wasn't that hard of a hit but awkward - his body did not hit the board - instead his head hit the glass first with the rest of his body stiff, thus from the looks of it transferring the energy of the hit to the head.

The NHL should have someone look at board/glass design - currently it akin to having the head rest of a car made of wood, 3" further back than the seat. At the very least the glass should be flush with the board, thus allowing the rest of the body to absorb some of the energy.

Mitchell got hurt in a similar manner.

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10-17-2010, 03:30 PM
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^ He was on his left (proper) side. Wasn't that hard of a hit but awkward - his body did not hit the board - instead his head hit the glass first with the rest of his body stiff, thus from the looks of it transferring the energy of the hit to the head.

The NHL should have someone look at board/glass design - currently it akin to having the head rest of a car made of wood, 3" further back than the seat. At the very least the glass should be flush with the board, thus allowing the rest of the body to absorb some of the energy.

Mitchell got hurt in a similar manner.
It isn't flush so that the linesmen and refs can jump up on it in order to get out of the way of the play.

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10-17-2010, 05:16 PM
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I haven't seen the play, but is Ballard one of the guys who has been pushed to his off-side?


He usually plays the right-side with Alberts. However, on that particular play, he was on his left-side, if I recall correctly.

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10-18-2010, 12:04 PM
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It isn't flush so that the linesmen and refs can jump up on it in order to get out of the way of the play.
But this is what I've never understood. When is the last time you've seen a ref behind the net using the ledge to get up. I've have never ever seen that, which is why I've always wondered why the boards and glass aren't flush behind the net.

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10-18-2010, 04:31 PM
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From one of our papers, Ballard is feeling better but still a while from returning. Isn't traveling with the team, obviously.

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10-18-2010, 04:36 PM
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From one of our papers, Ballard is feeling better but still a while from returning. Isn't traveling with the team, obviously.
Pff...he's obviously no Aaron Rodgers then.

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10-18-2010, 04:55 PM
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While not the offensive threat Ballard can be, Rome filled in admirably. I hope him a speedy recovery, but we don't need to rush him back.

Also, by slight concussion, did Vignault mean a traumatic brain injury? I thought a concussion meant a loss of consciousness and none of the sources I've read mentioned Ballard blacking out.

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10-18-2010, 05:00 PM
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Mitchell didn't black out. Concussions have nothing to do with whether or not a person loses consciousness

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Concussions range in significance from minor to major, but they all share one common factor — they temporarily interfere with the way your brain works. They can affect memory, judgment, reflexes, speech, balance and coordination.

Usually caused by a blow to the head, concussions don't always involve a loss of consciousness. In fact, most people who have concussions never black out. Some people have had concussions and not even realized it.

Concussions are common, particularly if you play a contact sport such as football. But every concussion, no matter how mild, injures your brain. This injury needs time and rest to heal properly. Luckily, most concussions are mild and people usually recover fully.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/concussion/DS00320


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10-18-2010, 05:38 PM
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From one of our papers, Ballard is feeling better but still a while from returning. Isn't traveling with the team, obviously.
So down to 6 dmen

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10-18-2010, 05:54 PM
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Any updates on Burrows?

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So down to 6 dmen
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Pff...he's obviously no Aaron Rodgers then.
That's NFL for ya. Apparently Rodgers was still experiencing the aftereffects when cleared to play. No reason to pressure Ballard into returning, especially this early into the season. He was probably given the week irregardless of how good he was feeling

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Our new durable dman gone with a concussion. We're just freakin' cursed.

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10-19-2010, 03:09 PM
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Our new durable dman gone with a concussion. We're just freakin' cursed.
I was thinking the same thing so I have to chuckle a little. So ironice. How is it that the dmen that were acquired for their durability are both injured? Since I want to blame someone, I'll blame Takahashi

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Parent?
Hamhuis?

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Stop saying we're jinxed with these Dmen injuries guys, it's really cursing us

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10-19-2010, 06:49 PM
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In a perfect world, they wouldn't get injured ever.

In this world, I'll gladly take a few regular season games missed if it means they're at 100% for the playoffs.

Edit: I am basing my last statement off of hope, not logic.


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10-19-2010, 07:08 PM
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In a perfect world, they wouldn't get injured ever.

In this world, I'll gladly take a few regular season games missed if it means they're at 100% for the playoffs.
I remember last year everyone saying we were getting our injuries out of the way early.

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10-19-2010, 07:14 PM
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In a perfect world, they wouldn't get injured ever.

In this world, I'll gladly take a few regular season games missed if it means they're at 100% for the playoffs.
Except getting injured now guarantees nothing come playoff time unfortunately.

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10-19-2010, 07:16 PM
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It is all Takahashi's fault. We need to fire him!

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fire roger takashi please. I swear the defense is always cursed Especially to two of our most durable Dman. hammer/ballard. why why. WTFTFTFTWTFWTTFWTFW. bad luck.

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I remember last year everyone saying we were getting our injuries out of the way early.
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Except getting injured now guarantees nothing come playoff time unfortunately.
What can I say, it's too much work to be pessimistic 100% of the time. I'd much rather let myself believe that we're getting them out the way early rather than we'll be inundated in injuries forever and that this team will always be cursed and never win the cup.

Basic logic be damned, in my flawed model where injuries are inevitable, I'd rather they happen during the regular season. This way of thinking allows me to have several consecutive months where I don't worry about players being healthy for the playoffs.

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What can I say, it's too much work to be pessimistic 100% of the time. I'd much rather let myself believe that we're getting them out the way early rather than we'll be inundated in injuries forever and that this team will always be cursed and never win the cup.

Basic logic be damned, in my flawed model where injuries are inevitable, I'd rather they happen during the regular season. This way of thinking allows me to have several consecutive months where I don't worry about players being healthy for the playoffs.
It's not about being pessimistic, but realistic. Getting hurt now doesn't mean anything come playoff time. Obviously we all hope that injuries now means being healthy in the playoffs but it's just not realistic.

If you think we're being pessimistic for saying that then I don't know what to say.


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It's not about being pessimistic, but realistic. Getting hurt now doesn't mean anything come playoff time. Obviously we all hope that injuries now means being healthy in the playoffs but it's just not realistic.

If you think we're being pessimistic for saying that then I don't know what to say.
Wuh? Did you even read my response?

I fully grasp the fact injuries are relatively independent events and one injury does not make another one more or less likely (unless of course you're aggravating a previous injury).

I'm hoping everything will balance out in the end and the team will finally run into some good luck with respect to injuries when we actually need people to be healthy.

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