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10-22-2010, 05:13 PM
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The problem with blaming the coaching staff is this started before they got here. This team has had issues with defensive injuries since before the lockout.
I am well aware of that, but right now we're looking at two guys who were extremely durable before coming here. I suppose it could just be bad luck...

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10-22-2010, 05:23 PM
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but right now we're looking at two guys who were extremely durable before coming here. I suppose it could just be bad luck...
This has been puzzling me as well. I started thinking whacky thoughts - like maybe other teams want to injure the canucks because of all the trash talk Burrows and Kesler do. But when you look at the two actual injuries, they were flukey things caused by two good defensemen playing with passion. It is just bad luck.

Of course the amount of bad luck Van gets could lead us to a very logical assumption - that several voodoo curses have been placed on the Canucks organization...

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10-22-2010, 05:26 PM
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at least we're not a goalie GRAVEYARD anymore......

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10-23-2010, 04:22 PM
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at least we're not a goalie GRAVEYARD anymore......
No, now we're the club that dmen go to to watch their bodies spontaneously combust.

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10-23-2010, 04:32 PM
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The Curse of Dale Tallon. We got him instead of Gilbert Perreault and were so mean to him about it (from what I've read) and he forever cursed Canucks blueliners.

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10-23-2010, 04:33 PM
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at least we're not a goalie GRAVEYARD anymore......
Vancouver never was - that was simply Burkie trying to justify why he could not assess goal tending talent.

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10-23-2010, 04:35 PM
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Every major hockey market is a "goalie graveyard".

Fans will turn on you after a string of poor stars.

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10-23-2010, 04:46 PM
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Vancouver never was - that was simply Burkie trying to justify why he could not assess goal tending talent.
Well, that's one thing you and Burke have in common.

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10-23-2010, 05:06 PM
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Latest reports on Ballard and Hamhuis from Doc Vigneault.

On the concussed Keith Ballard.
"You never know with concussions," Canucks' coach Alain Vigneault said after his team's practice Saturday at Rogers Arena. "Until the player is totally symptom-free, there's a protocol that they have to go through and he's still not symptom-free.

"I couldn't give you a time-line, you don't know with concussions anymore. You especially don't want to risk players' health."
And Hamhuis is going to be off his skates for a longer time and will miss Tuesday's game:
Hamhuis is being hampered by a foot injury and the team has decided to keep him off for skates for a while.

"We are going to try and give him three or four days of nothing," Vigneault said. "There is no fracture, it's just very painful for him right now, so hopefully by keeping him off for two or three days here he will be fine to go after Tuesday."
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/h...#ixzz13DpRsqlB

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10-23-2010, 05:11 PM
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Not worried about Hamhuis at all. No fracture means he'll be back after Tuesday.

Ballard = bad news.

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10-23-2010, 05:22 PM
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I had a bruised foot that I couldn't wear a shoe on for 6 weeks last year.. just because Hamhuis' foot isn't broken doesn't mean he can play.

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10-23-2010, 05:25 PM
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I had a bruised foot that I couldn't wear a shoe on for 6 weeks last year.. just because Hamhuis' foot isn't broken doesn't mean he can play.
Except that Hamhuis could already put his skates on...?

I heard he participated in the pre-skate Friday, but I guess he didn't put on his skates. My mistake.

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...p-delayed.aspx


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10-23-2010, 05:44 PM
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HNIC is about to do a report on concussions and showed Ballard being hit. Apparently the focus tonight will be on concussions and PCS and what can be done to deal with the issues.

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10-23-2010, 05:54 PM
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With the way Hamhuis plays, even Ballard, I think they should really consider the skate guards like a lot of people last season started to do, especially Montreal. Alberts has been wearing one since his philly days, but even his are a bit limited as it does not cover the top lace portion.



Hal Gill's look super protective, but i guess adjusting to the weight would probably be the main issue.


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10-24-2010, 01:55 AM
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****. 2 of our most durable dman hurt early in the season... The canucks are cursed 100%. Nothing ever goes right.

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10-24-2010, 03:03 AM
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Ballard's done for a long time. That's my gut feeling.

Hurrr duurrrrr

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10-24-2010, 08:01 AM
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A little frustrating to learn that Ballard still has symptoms. Turns out, it wasn't a "minor concussion". Ballard plays a gritty style, and it's uncertain how much this will alter facets of his game. Just not good news.

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10-24-2010, 08:50 AM
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No, now we're the club that dmen go to to watch their bodies spontaneously combust.
You would swear this was an interview with a Nucks D-man...

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10-24-2010, 08:52 AM
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There is no such thing as a minor concussion unless applying that term retroactively.

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10-24-2010, 11:33 AM
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A little frustrating to learn that Ballard still has symptoms. Turns out, it wasn't a "minor concussion". Ballard plays a gritty style, and it's uncertain how much this will alter facets of his game. Just not good news.
Minor concussions can lead to long term PCS - it is a very individual process.
http://www.bcsoccerweb.com/articles-...n-athletes.pdf

Some players will be cold cocked and have a fast recovery with little side effects - others (think Jason Allison whiplash from a mild cross-check) will experience severe and long term PCS.

I saw it all the time when I was doing personal injury work .

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10-24-2010, 01:44 PM
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You would swear this was an interview with a Nucks D-man...
That is perfect.

It can't happen to every Canucks d-man.

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10-24-2010, 07:14 PM
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What are the timelines? Hammer back Nov. 1 or 2 and Ballard back god knows when?

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10-24-2010, 07:17 PM
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Ballard looks to be out 2 more weeks

BY JIM JAMIESON, THE PROVINCE OCTOBER 24, 2010

It looks like it's going to be at least a couple of weeks before defence-man Keith Ballard will be returning to the Canucks lineup.

Canucks head coach Alain Vigneault said following practice Saturday that Ballard was still experiencing concussion symptoms eight days after being slammed into the end glass in Los Angeles by Brad Richardson. Concussion guidelines typically require a week of being symptom-free before light exercise can begin. http://www.theprovince.com/news/Ball...#ixzz13KDkIsPD
Jamieson thinks Ballard needs another week to become symptom free.

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10-24-2010, 07:32 PM
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Jamieson thinks Ballard needs another week to become symptom free.
No, because it would require 1 full week of being symptom-free, so if that's the case, he thinks Ballard will start becoming symptom-free soon. If this is accurate, Ballard would need 1 week starting today of being symptom-free, then 1 week of light exercise, than 1 more week of heavier exercise, than he would be cleared to play.

I say 3-4 more weeks he'll be back, hopefully this doesn't turn into Mitchell v2.0 This is semi-encouraging "news".

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10-25-2010, 01:30 AM
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^As long as he's still having symptoms I wouldn't consider it good news. There's no way to predict when he'll be symptom free.

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