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10-11-2010, 10:16 PM
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And thank you for joining tonight to let us know. Strong "unbiased" first post.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
I guess this is sarcasm... kind of odd from someone who has been a member here for less than a month themselves...

Not sure what membership longevity has to do with voicing one's opinion...

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10-11-2010, 10:20 PM
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I guess this is sarcasm... kind of odd from someone who has been a member here for less than a month themselves...

Not sure what membership longevity has to do with voicing one's opinion...
The real point is that your first few posts have been of a trolling nature.

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10-11-2010, 10:25 PM
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kind of odd from someone who has been a member here for less than a month themselves...
Thats not entirely accurate.

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The real point is that your first few posts have been of a trolling nature.
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10-11-2010, 11:02 PM
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just came to do a little scouting for wednesday's game, and gotta say that my first reaction is that it wasnt that bad of a hit. Pominville, i believe takes a peak and sees Hjalmarsson coming. and then the hit seemed to be hip on hip. then his body turns from Hjalmarsson's momentum. he should have been bracing for the hit, but wasnt. unfortunate, and i dont think Hjalmarsson has been dirty ever before.

that being said, probably get a game or two.


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10-11-2010, 11:11 PM
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Buffalo fan here. Your boy is getting 3 games.
Thats the penalty for a hit of that nature. And Pommer's is a gamer, he deserved better, much better. Your boy is a ******* as far as I am concerned, another Kaleta to me in any event and I don't like Kaleta, can't stand the fact he is in our line up.

But class players are class players, and Pomminville is a class player who deserved a hell of alot more than what your ******* player did to him.
Get a Clue

Not a Hit from Behind. So Hammer = Kaleta because 1 Borderline Hit? hmm...

And your team has a Bunch of *******, funny that your coach said it's dirty, we play Saturday again, and you guys didnt have the balls to do ****. Your team knew if they did anything questionable, Scott, Boynton, Bickell, Brouwer, Dowell would be there in no time.

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10-11-2010, 11:19 PM
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Hjalmarsson's hit was touch early, borderline from behind, absent of malice, but injury a factor. Be surprised if he gets more than 1 game.
I'm with Bobby Mac on this one.

Hammer had no intent of injury, and hit him shoulder to shoulder. It was the way Pominville ended up turning when his face hit the glass that made it look dirtier than it actually was.

I hope the guy is okay, and I really think that the hit was way more unfortunate than dirty.

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10-11-2010, 11:55 PM
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It is hilarious seeing all the idiot Canuck and Red Wings fans calling the Hawks dirty and calling for 10 game suspensions. Shows how truly pathetic they are.

Anyways, I think Hammer will get 1 game because of the injury. If there is no injury then this is not even a discussion. Maybe a 2 minute penalty. Hammer timed the hit wrong and it still wasn't even that bad. Pominville turned his shoulder slightly right before the hit which made it look much worse. He put himself in a vulnerable position. I'd say the 5 minutes and getting kicked out in the 1st period is enough punishment. We'll see what Campbell says though.

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10-12-2010, 12:13 AM
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I think he will get 3 games (Should get 1 IMO)

What do you think?
I think it was an awesome hit, and hopefully there's lots more of them!

Guy got WRECKED!


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10-12-2010, 12:39 AM
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I think it was an awesome hit, and hopefully there's lots more of them!

Guy got WRECKED!


Right on Brotha! Hammer was truly "The Hammer" on that one. Finally threw down one of those big hits I'd always hear about him, when he was a prospect....and just for the record Hammer is a clean player, no prior history of the alleged "cheap shot" that people are calling it, I don't like seeing guys not being able to get off on their own power but it won't be at any best more than 1 game cuz it was'nt from behind.

Ruff should'nt be passing judgement at all with a guy like Kaleta on his team.

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10-12-2010, 12:47 AM
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I think he will get 3 games (Should get 1 IMO)

What do you think?

I also fear that Cullimore will be called up ,,,,,,, Please tell me I am crazy

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(Assuming Hendry injury is severe)

I was at the game, the hit was pretty scary. Certainly was no intent from Hjarms, but it was careless, he'll get a game.

As for Hendry, I'm not even sure if he's hurt. He did take part in the pre game warm-up.


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10-12-2010, 12:58 AM
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Ovechkin's hit on Campbell, that hit was scary. Cooke's and Richards hits all way worse than this hit.

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1 game... nothing to see here

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10-12-2010, 01:29 AM
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The main board is full of knee-jerk reactionaries, which is expected from HFb, Hammer will get 1-2 games at the most. It wasn't dirty, as there was no intent, it could be argued it was a borderline hit, but most of all it was just an unfortunate hit. They happen in hockey games.

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10-12-2010, 01:41 AM
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I was at the game, the hit was pretty scary. Certainly was no intent from Hjarms, but it was careless, he'll get a game.

As for Hendry, I'm not even sure if he's hurt. He did take part in the pre game warm-up.
His injury might be something minor like Sharp's and he is healing up

Just seems strange that Q went with Scott vs a much faster team 2 straight games

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10-12-2010, 02:23 AM
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I think Hjalmarsson is a good player and he made a mistake. Still...

But the thing that really bugs me is Quenneville's comment after the game: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5675429

"To me, you could argue that it was even a penalty," Chicago coach Joel Quenneville said.

Hmmm, Pominville hadn't touched the puck (interference, duh), Hjalmarsson took about 5 big strides before driving him into the boards (boarding, duh), and the hit was on an unsuspecting player from behind or at least blindside (whatever the NHL calls that these days). Quenneville went onto say that Hjalmarsson was "playing the puck," the puck obviously being tucked somewhere inside Pominville's spleen at the time.

I sorta get coaches defending their players, but this is the same guy who last season, when Jim Wisniewski of the Ducks drilled Seabrook not from behind, but from the front, when Seabrook hadn't touched the puck, had this reaction.

"You hit a guy without the puck, you could kill a guy," Quenneville said. "It's the most dangerous hit in the history of the game, all right."

Only when the hit is on your player, right, Joel? Lost a lot of respect for him tonight.

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10-12-2010, 03:58 AM
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I am going to take a stab in the dark and guess that he is not terribly concerned about his level of respect from random Sabres fans.

Personally, I think it was clearly a penalty since he didn't play the puck, but otherwise not just clean, but something the league needs more of. Pom was just caught with his head down and ragdolled because of it; had he set himself at all it barely would have registered as a hit. It wasn't even from behind; Hjalmarsson CAME from behind but was level with him and hit him directly from the side.

Keep your head up, pal!

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I am going to take a stab in the dark and guess that he is not terribly concerned about his level of respect from random Sabres fans.

Personally, I think it was clearly a penalty since he didn't play the puck, but otherwise not just clean, but something the league needs more of. Pom was just caught with his head down and ragdolled because of it; had he set himself at all it barely would have registered as a hit. It wasn't even from behind; Hjalmarsson CAME from behind but was level with him and hit him directly from the side.

Keep your head up, pal!
2 min interference was what I said on main board before everyone turned on me

I know he is going to get a suspension because of the after effect but some people are idiots ,,, Calling for 5-15 games and calling Hammer a disgrace/etc

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10-12-2010, 04:23 AM
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2 min interference was what I said on main board before everyone turned on me

I know he is going to get a suspension because of the after effect but some people are idiots ,,, Calling for 5-15 games and calling Hammer a disgrace/etc
I read the entire thread and 95% of those people were Red Wings and Canucks fans. Haters gonna hate. We have to get used to the haters because we just won the Stanley Cup.

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The main board is full of knee-jerk reactionaries
No kidding. So predictable...it's like clockwork; every time there's a questionable hit you'll find the same morons blathering on about how it's the worst hit in the history of hockey, and demanding a public hanging in the town square. Always good for a laugh.

I swear some of these so-called "hockey fans" would be better off watching golf or tennis. Hockey is a violent game. Players are moving at incredible speeds down there, and the need to make split-second reactions sometimes results in ugly collisions, even by otherwise "clean" players. No need to go into hysterics every time a bad hit occurs. Deal out an appropriate suspension and move on.

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I agree that is was hip on hip but the outcome makes me think it will be 3 games.

Is Exelby the first one up?

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And thank you for joining tonight to let us know. Strong "unbiased" first post.

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Well I didn't 'join tonight' and I'm neither a fan of both teams and actually a big fan of Hammer.

But that was a disgusting, terrible, decision to hit him, when he was in SUCH a vulnerable position.

And look at the video, Hjalmarsson didn't lay off the hit AT all. He went full on into him, shoulder into the numbers. If it was the other way around you'd be saying the exact same thing.

I don't think he meant to hurt the guy, just a young player making a bad decision in the spur of the moment. And he will be punished accordingly you can bet.

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Well I didn't 'join tonight' and I'm neither a fan of both teams and actually a big fan of Hammer.

But that was a disgusting, terrible, decision to hit him, when he was in SUCH a vulnerable position.

And look at the video, Hjalmarsson didn't lay off the hit AT all. He went full on into him, shoulder into the numbers. If it was the other way around you'd be saying the exact same thing.

I don't think he meant to hurt the guy, just a young player making a bad decision in the spur of the moment. And he will be punished accordingly you can bet.

Interesting...the last sentence of your statement is right on but your point above that sentence is really misleading.

When people talk about hitting some one in the numbers it means when that person's (the person getting hit) BACK is turned. Watch the hit of Ovechkin on Soupy last year to see the difference.

1) They were side to side, 2) Pom looks up (watch it in slow motion) and SEES Hammer coming. So to say its a "disgusting terrible decision" is nothing but hyperbole.

BUT...Hammer should have laid off that hit IMO and will rightfully be punished for a game. Even in close calls (which this was) the league should draw a hard line.

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I think Hjalmarsson is a good player and he made a mistake. Still...

But the thing that really bugs me is Quenneville's comment after the game: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=5675429

"To me, you could argue that it was even a penalty," Chicago coach Joel Quenneville said.

Hmmm, Pominville hadn't touched the puck (interference, duh), Hjalmarsson took about 5 big strides before driving him into the boards (boarding, duh), and the hit was on an unsuspecting player from behind or at least blindside (whatever the NHL calls that these days). Quenneville went onto say that Hjalmarsson was "playing the puck," the puck obviously being tucked somewhere inside Pominville's spleen at the time.

I sorta get coaches defending their players, but this is the same guy who last season, when Jim Wisniewski of the Ducks drilled Seabrook not from behind, but from the front, when Seabrook hadn't touched the puck, had this reaction.

"You hit a guy without the puck, you could kill a guy," Quenneville said. "It's the most dangerous hit in the history of the game, all right."

Only when the hit is on your player, right, Joel? Lost a lot of respect for him tonight.
Wow. A head coach defends one of his players who is potentially up for a suspension sentencing and goes on the attack after one of his players is hit with a cheapshot. This really surprises and bothers you?

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Before the lockout this hit happened once or twice a game. Sometimes im frustrated with the physicality of the league now a days. But it is what it is.

1 game.

Oh and lets leave the personal stuff alone ladies and gents...

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Can someone with better computer skills than me make a screen shot at 1:32 of the video of the hit. People are acting like Hjalmersson destroyed a guy without the puck, but at that point in the video there is a great camera angle showing the puck getting to Pominville right as Hjalmersson gets there. Those kinds of hits happen dozens of times every hockey game.

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