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06-09-2004, 07:45 AM
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Draft Day Gamble

Look,

We've all been around the block a few times, and witnessed many a horrible or at best, average draft. Out of the many that I've seen, very few players after the 3rd round ever make it. Now, I'm a-looking at the number of kids we got in the junior system, and the current logjam of what I consider average NHL-ers currently on the team. And I'm thinking it's time to stop the madness of picking up more kids who will never go anywhere.

So, my proposal, however extreme as you may see it, would be to trade to Washington, ALL of our picks this year for the 1st in order to get Ovechkin. I know it seems short-sighted, especially with two 1st rounders. And I know there are no guarantees at the draft. I just can't help but feel that we have decent talent developing in the minors that can and should replace and probably do better than 1/2 the current roster. What we need is the play-makers, the guys that a team can actually depend on, the Iginla's, the St. Louis's, the Lecavaliers, etc. Enough with drafting guys that hold no promise of being in the top.

Go ahead, flame on, but I'm tired of feeling like this after the draft :mad:

Cheers,
Geoff.

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a) If the Draft is as bad as you say, why on earth would washington even give half a second of thought to giving up what looks like a franchise player for 3 picks that would be used on guys going nowhere.

b) Washington is one of the few teams that have the shear volume of decent prospects that we do, so they aren't in any need of a 3 more (well, like 5 more considering all the other picks they have in the first 2 rounds).

c) With rumoured costs of $10mil just to get him out of Russia, Ovechin is a pricey commodity for the Oilers. Not to mention that with the new CBA coming up, Ovechin could earn more in Russia than he could in Canada, at least for the first few years.

Don't forget, when St. Louis first came to the NHL his future wasn't along the yellow brick road... he had a tough struggle to get to Tampa.

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Don't forget, when St. Louis first came to the NHL his future wasn't along the yellow brick road... he had a tough struggle to get to Tampa.
Also, Brad Richards wasn't a first round pick, now he's on team Canada (along with undrafted Ed Belfour). Sure, there are lots of first round flops, but the number of guys who become late bloomers make the later picks worth it-wasn't everyone happy to see Brodziak have a good year? He may never make it, but that's the sort of surprise you want out of a late pick.

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b) Washington is one of the few teams that have the shear volume of decent prospects that we do, so they aren't in any need of a 3 more (well, like 5 more considering all the other picks they have in the first 2 rounds).
Good post. This is the one that I immediately thought of. If Washington has all the Oilers' picks (9), and their own (umpteen), they really wouldn't be in a very good situation. Imagine trying to sign them in 2-5 years.

Plus, I don't think the value's there. I don't see why it would be attractive to Washington to add a hundred more prospects that won't make the NHL over the best prospect out there.

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Look,

We've all been around the block a few times, and witnessed many a horrible or at best, average draft. Out of the many that I've seen, very few players after the 3rd round ever make it. Now, I'm a-looking at the number of kids we got in the junior system, and the current logjam of what I consider average NHL-ers currently on the team. And I'm thinking it's time to stop the madness of picking up more kids who will never go anywhere.

So, my proposal, however extreme as you may see it, would be to trade to Washington, ALL of our picks this year for the 1st in order to get Ovechkin. I know it seems short-sighted, especially with two 1st rounders. And I know there are no guarantees at the draft. I just can't help but feel that we have decent talent developing in the minors that can and should replace and probably do better than 1/2 the current roster. What we need is the play-makers, the guys that a team can actually depend on, the Iginla's, the St. Louis's, the Lecavaliers, etc. Enough with drafting guys that hold no promise of being in the top.

Go ahead, flame on, but I'm tired of feeling like this after the draft :mad:

Cheers,
Geoff.

It's kinda funny you should mention this. Seems to me I remember Minnesota offering all of their picks to Pittsburg for the 1st overall pick back in 1984. Pittsburg rejected it, and I'd say it worked out pretty well for them. I certainly dont think Was. will bite on it, but that sure would be something.

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Washington wouldn't do it. They'd probably want both our firsts, Hemsky, Semenov and a top prospect to even get discussions going.

I was thinking of teams that would have the kind of assests to trade to Washington for the 1st overall pick. The only one I can think of is Ottawa. How about Spezza, Havlat and their first round pick for Ovechkin? Washington would have to consider it...they might even take it. It would be a bold move by the Sens too.

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I was thinking of teams that would have the kind of assests to trade to Washington for the 1st overall pick. The only one I can think of is Ottawa. How about Spezza, Havlat and their first round pick for Ovechkin? Washington would have to consider it...they might even take it. It would be a bold move by the Sens too.
I wouldn't even consider that if I was Ottawa... there is no way that Ovechin is going to be better than both Spezza and Havlat.

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06-09-2004, 06:12 PM
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c) With rumoured costs of $10mil just to get him out of Russia, Ovechin is a pricey commodity for the Oilers. Not to mention that with the new CBA coming up, Ovechin could earn more in Russia than he could in Canada, at least for the first few years.
Noone believed me when I said that the europeans would be competing directly with nhl teams for the services of their own players and that wasn't even 2 years ago. We're already seeing it with guys like Tverdosky and now the young draftees are looking at some attractive options.

I think that Abromovich and Ovechkin's names will definitely figure into the new cba talks.

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