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The Trade Proposal Thread ‎2010 (part 4)

View Poll Results: Trade Markov for Parise?
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10-28-2010, 10:45 PM
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I wouldn't mind someone like Brooks Laich from Washington for the G&G line. Good size, excellent work ethic, conscientious defensively, and he loves the front of the net. Not the greatest skater, but not terrible either. He should be able to keep up with them. I think he'd fit with this team.

He's UFA too this year so Caps may look to trade him, altho I doubt they'd make a deal with Montreal.

I'm thinking O.B. and a 2011 3rd rder for Laich & 2011 5th rdr. Laich is a scorer (but not an elite one) and the more established player so thus the higher draft pick. OB could probably make a decent partner for Alzner. He'd fill out their top 6 nicely, and Laich would fill out our 2nd line nicely.

There's a $1,1 m difference in salary.

One forward would have to go. Dustin Boyd makes $650,000 so we'd have to waive or trade him. We'd have only $350,000 left in cap space (compared to over $800,000 now), but everyone would fit.

Caps are in a pretty good situation cap space wise (more than $2,0 m) right now, so they don't need to make "cap" deals. Only hockey ones really.

I also like Troy Brouwer in Chicago, but no way the Hawks trade him.

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10-28-2010, 11:07 PM
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I wonder if a deal based around Langenbrunner and Spacek could work.

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10-29-2010, 12:18 AM
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I wonder if a deal based around Langenbrunner and Spacek could work.
Probably not right now since Langenbrunner makes less than Spacek but if Montreal is willing a decent prospect/2nd/3rd rounder I can see it happening before the trading deadline if New Jersey is out of contention by then.

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10-29-2010, 12:19 AM
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Should Gauthier look at getting Havlat for the top 6?

Havlat is obviously not happy in Minny, Agent Walsh has twitted that on twitter and we all remember him from Halak.

Would it be in Montreals best interest to get a guy like Havlat who played some of his best hockey under Martin to play with Gionta and Gomez?

What type of deal could Montreal use in trying to gain Havlat without having to give up anyone from the current top 5: Pleks, Cammer, AK, Gio or Gommer...or can we swing a deal to involve a shorter contract (although higher in cap) in Gomez plus for Havlat???

Would Spacek and Gomez for Havlat work?

Montreal can move Eller with Gionta and Havlat, with players he should be playing with.

Minnesota gets help down the middle and on the D too.

What else could be added to make this work???

Would agent Walsh be an issue?

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10-29-2010, 12:23 AM
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I love Havlat, but hes made of glass. If we trade for him it wouldn't be for alot imo. I can't see us giving up alot for a high paid Injury Prone player.

O'Byrne, Maxwell, Rights to Emelin and a 3rd or something. I have a hard time understanding how a deal like this would get done

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10-29-2010, 12:23 AM
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I'm sure by the end of his contract he'll have played a total of 82 games.

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10-29-2010, 12:25 AM
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He played 154 games in his last 2 seasons.. maybe he is no as injury prone anymore.

Anyways, he would fit the Habs pretty well with his speed. I wouldn't mind him at all.

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10-29-2010, 12:31 AM
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All injury jokes aside, Walsh was complaining that Minnesota treats Havlat as a secondary scorer. If Havlat came to Montreal, he'd once again be on the second line, PP2 and the like. He wouldn't be used how he wants to be used.

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10-29-2010, 12:31 AM
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I think a Gomez and Havlat deal can work, the only issue is addressing the $2 million salary going the other way.

Would Montreal send Spacek and maybe take on injured, but Quebecer P.A. Bouchard to even salaries a little more...Montreal would still need to add another Minny salary, and add more in a trade.

Bouchard healthy adds even more to Montreal, would have to take Nick Shultz or Matt Cullen on...I think Cullen would help in the top 9 and 6 at times too.

But in such a trade:

Gomez, Spacek

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Havlat, Bouchard and Cullen

Habs would have to send something plus like a top end prospect or 1st...who?

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10-29-2010, 12:32 AM
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All injury jokes aside, Walsh was complaining that Minnesota treats Havlat as a secondary scorer. If Havlat came to Montreal, he'd once again be on the second line, PP2 and the like. He wouldn't be used how he wants to be used.
In Montreal though the 1st line and 2nd line pretty much get the same icetime and PP time. The issues would be far less.

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10-29-2010, 12:36 AM
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In Montreal though the 1st line and 2nd line pretty much get the same icetime and PP time. The issues would be far less.
No it wouldn't. Walsh's concern is that Havlat is not playing 20+ minutes and on the first powerplay and isn't the elite superstar of the Minnesota Wild. If he came to Montreal, Walsh would once again be complaining that Cammalleri, Plekanec and Kostitsyn are getting attention over Havlat and that Havlat isn't playing the PP with Markov and Subban like they get to do. The complaint would still stand.

It's a nice pipe dream but that's about it.

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10-29-2010, 12:37 AM
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I wonder if a deal based around Langenbrunner and Spacek could work.
I'd take it and run!

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10-29-2010, 12:39 AM
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I wonder if a deal based around Langenbrunner and Spacek could work.
Their D is bad, and they need help. It could work, but that is their captain and leader so it maybe difficult.

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10-29-2010, 12:42 AM
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Their D is bad, and they need help. It could work, but that is their captain and leader so it maybe difficult.
That's my logic. I didn't suggest straight up as spacek has a higher cap AND a longer term but I'm sure a few tweaks could even it out. It helps us and it helps them. They need some D badly. Spacek may suck with us but when spacek was go to guy in buffalo he was pretty good.

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10-29-2010, 12:44 AM
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I agree with trading for Stillman at the deadline if Florida could not make the playoff. The guy is a winner and still has a couple of good years left in him.

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10-29-2010, 12:47 AM
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Havlat is obviously not happy in Minny, Agent Walsh has twitted that on twitter and we all remember him from Halak.

Would it be in Montreals best interest to get a guy like Havlat who played some of his best hockey under Martin to play with Gionta and Gomez?

What type of deal could Montreal use in trying to gain Havlat without having to give up anyone from the current top 5: Pleks, Cammer, AK, Gio or Gommer...or can we swing a deal to involve a shorter contract (although higher in cap) in Gomez plus for Havlat???

Would Spacek and Gomez for Havlat work?

Is there some sort of space/time continuum that would allow this to happen??

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10-29-2010, 12:53 AM
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oh my.. x[add a number higher than 100]

Havlat WILL NOT be traded. You can always dream though.

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10-29-2010, 01:13 AM
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1) Pacioretty + O'Byrne vs Havlat = +4M on the cap
2) Send Spacek waivers/minors = -4M on the cap
3) Play Picard on our D-core and bring up Henry as a 7th D.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Kostitsyn
Havlat - Gomez - Gionta
Pouliot - Eller - Lapierre
Moen - Halpern - Boyd
Darche/Pyatt

Markov - Picard
Hamrlik - Subban
Gill - Gorges
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10-29-2010, 01:38 AM
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I think we might need to put an ad where it says clearly that Spacek could be waived, his contract will still count against the cap, making such a move useless.

As much as i like Havlat, unfortunately, i dont think its possible to move for him in our situation right now. (And Minnesota is even more closer to the cap than we are...)

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10-29-2010, 02:17 AM
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I would much rather have Brunette for LW on the Gio and Gomer line.

His contract is expiring, he is still great along the boards and in front of the net on the PP, would be easier to fit in cap wise, and should be a lot cheaper to obtain.

I dont know what it would take to get him but maybe a mid level prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on who it was.

Perhaps,

Maxwell + 3rd for Brunette
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Carle/O'Byrne/Weber + pick

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10-29-2010, 04:09 AM
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I also like Troy Brouwer in Chicago, but no way the Hawks trade him.
I could see Brouwer being moved this year

Especially if Morin and Beach continue to progress in AHL

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10-29-2010, 08:29 AM
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Post your PROPOSAL for a top six left winger

To MTL: Milan Lucic + defenseman ( whoever)

To BOS: Scott Gomez + Roman Hamrlik

We get a center with the money saved and get a physical top 6 left winger.

This is my first proposal dont be too harsh...
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Boston would never make that deal I doubt they even think about it for more than a second and they also have no cap room to make such a deal.They would be getting something like 12 million back,ain't gonna happen

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10-29-2010, 08:49 AM
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I love Havlat, but hes made of glass. If we trade for him it wouldn't be for alot imo. I can't see us giving up alot for a high paid Injury Prone player.

O'Byrne, Maxwell, Rights to Emelin and a 3rd or something. I have a hard time understanding how a deal like this would get done
That would be a mistake if Emelin is willing to sign next summer. We could absolutely use him to replace Hamrlik.

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10-29-2010, 09:09 AM
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That would be a mistake if Emelin is willing to sign next summer. We could absolutely use him to replace Hamrlik.
Hamrlik is a guy we should try and re-sign(at less than 5.5 mil though) for another year or two. Yemelin coming over should have no impact on his status.

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10-29-2010, 09:42 AM
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I think you have to measure a Spacek package against what Florida could get at the trade deadline for Stillman. If I'm Florida, I would hold onto him for now in the hopes of making a push for the playoffs; failing that, I would auction him off at the deadline for picks and prospects. Trading Stillman for Spacek wouldn't ever into the planning unless the Habs package included a very good prospect.
That's true, and a good point.

I think that we have a pretty good prospect pool right now, and would be willing to deal any prospect other than Leblanc or Tinordi (note: I no longer consider Subban a prospect in the truest sense of the word).

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