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10-20-2010, 10:45 AM
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Havlat: how´s he playing?

How do Minny fans feel that Havlat has played so far this season. I have not been lucky enough to catch a Wild game this year and I was hoping for some insight.

Also, do Minnesota fans feel that he is or can be a legit top-line winger in the NHL?

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10-20-2010, 10:49 AM
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Better than he started last season. He's been good, not great, but good.

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10-20-2010, 10:50 AM
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been underwhelmed so far this season, though he shows flashes of goodness. pair him with Lats and he looks a lot better--he's a more legit top line winger than our other top line wingers, but he isn't someone who can carry a line. I believe he'll do quite a bit better than he did last year.

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Havlat was injured for the first six weeks of last season, so you have to throw those games out to see how he did last year IMO.

He looks great out there, he's carrying the puck into traffic, taking shots, working hard on the boards, and a lot more physical than I thought he would be. Calm demeanor too. He's a legit top line RW for sure.

Not sure what other guys want to see...he's a PPG player through 5 games. And these aren't throwaway assists either, he's creating scoring chances for his linemates.

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He looked great last night. Lats-Cullen-Havlat can probably be the most solid 2nd line we've ever had.

But I think he's proven that he's not a 1st line winger unless he's paired with two great linemates. He doesn't carry a line.

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I think Havlat is still trying to find his "hands". His shot is nowhere near what it usually is and he is having trouble stick handling in traffic, and thats usually one of his best assets. His passing is still excellent and i think its a very good sign that he is putting up points while finding his game.

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10-20-2010, 11:32 AM
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Havlat was injured for the first six weeks of last season, so you have to throw those games out to see how he did last year IMO.

He looks great out there, he's carrying the puck into traffic, taking shots, working hard on the boards, and a lot more physical than I thought he would be. Calm demeanor too. He's a legit top line RW for sure.

Not sure what other guys want to see...he's a PPG player through 5 games. And these aren't throwaway assists either, he's creating scoring chances for his linemates.
my only real problem with him so far is the same I've had for other players: he looks disinterested for large chunks of the game for most of the games we've had so far. It's not unique to him, but it's still a ding.

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Yeah, and I'm not a scout or coach and tend to only notice guys when they stick out (good or bad). But I really noticed him in a good way the last few games. I didn't watch the Finland games much though.

Havlat from what I recall was supposed to be a puck wizard, great playmaker, and chip in a good number of goals. Since coming back from injury last year, he's lived up to my expectations. I didn't know he was going to be so physical though, he is pretty tough for a skilled guy. A lot like Bouchard, but instead of curling and staying to the perimeter in the O zone, he goes to the dirty areas.

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i noticed the physical part last year and was surprised by it. i think one Sens fan and a couple chicago fans even came over to the old boards to say we'd probably be surprised. He really isn't cruising around looking to hit people or get into physical battles but he looks entirely comfortable doing it when he thinks it's the best route. My "disinterested" quip extends back to preseason. No one on the team looked that into the games and fair or unfair I look at the big money guys with a more critical eye when there is lack of motivation. I thought Koivu, too, looked pretty lazy in preseason but i figured that was just because he didn't want to get injured before Finland.

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I like what Havlat brings to the table for the most part. Like most all players, though, he tends to disappear at times and when the team has the type of commitment to him that they do; it's hard not to want more.

I'd love to see him put the puck in the net more than he's shown. In his just over a year here, he seems to be very snake bitten in this regard. I think he puts some good shots on net and has quite a few glorious chances to score but for whatever reason he doesn't find the back of the net as often as you see other players do. The part that I like about his game and really helps out the team is that he has the ability to slow down the game and let passing lanes develop. That's not something the team really has at this point, especially with Bouchard out for however long he has and will continue to be. The rest of the team tends to just force way too much. What we see is when Havlat is on the ice, there's some more creativity and the players out there benefit from it. However, he does tend to try to make that extra move a little often but that comes with the territory with a player like that.

I really like the make-up of the Latendresse - Cullen - Havlat line. They all compliment each other extremely well. I think Havlat will continue to rack up the points, I just hope to see more goals from him moving forward.

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The man misses more chances than Mitts. Luckily he also creates 10x the number of chances for himself and his lines mates that mitts also.

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The man misses more chances than Mitts. Luckily he also creates 10x the number of chances for himself and his lines mates that mitts also.
Whoa, whoa, lets not say things we cant take back

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do you think there is any chance Fletcher would trade him?

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do you think there is any chance Fletcher would trade him?
Dude, I'll answer that question for you, but I'm going to have to venture a guess and say NO

He has way too much chemistry with Cullen and Latendresse for that to happen

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do you think there is any chance Fletcher would trade him?
No movement clause. Think he wants to go back to Ottawa?

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Dude, I'll answer that question for you, but I'm going to have to venture a guess and say NO

He has way too much chemistry with Cullen and Latendresse for that to happen
And a NMC or NTC. I forget which, but he has one or the other.

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do you think there is any chance Fletcher would trade him?
Doubtful...

At this point, I don't see how Ottawa and Minnesota are good trading partners. our D is pretty set and with the new positional awareness that they are playing with, Backstrom has had to face fewer odd man rushes or bad angle shots.

We have an extra grinder, but I'm pretty sure that Ottawa doesn't want one of our extra grinders.

Maybe something around Barker?

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do you think there is any chance Fletcher would trade him?
Not at all. You don't go signing a guy to a huge 5 year deal and then turn around and trade him when he fills one of your major needs.

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No, but you can always a Wild fan if you want to see Martin Havlat. Bandwagon's starting now.

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He's playing well in the playmaking role, but I'm disappointed in his inability to bury chances. He's 2nd-worst behind Mittens, IMO. We need him to score goals too, not just set others up.

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He's playing well in the playmaking role, but I'm disappointed in his inability to bury chances. He's 2nd-worst behind Mittens, IMO. We need him to score goals too, not just set others up.
Agreed, and I have confidence that the goals will come, especially if that line stays healthy and continues to play like they did last night.

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Dude's average 3 shots per game, and that doesn't count missed and blocked shots. I'd only worry about it if he stops shooting.

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