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10-22-2010, 10:49 AM
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17(!) Finnish skaters in the NHL

This far only 17 finnish skaters have played a game or more in the NHL. It seemed like only yesterday we had 30ish of them. How many were there last year?

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32 over the season 2009-2010. But only 19 of them had a regular role. Also, it's 18 skaters this year, not 17. All of them seem to be having a regular role as well.

But still, this shows the dip we had in player production in classes born between years 1987-90. Every other European nation is having about ten or so 20-to-23-year-olds over there showing what they can do, whereas we have only like two or three. The worst seems to be over though and I think we're on a rising curve again with guys like Granlund, Vatanen leading the way and more in the pipeline.

If it's of any consolence though, the Finns are the most populous foreigners in KHL. Currently we have 19 guys over there as regulars.

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Also, it's 18 skaters this year, not 17.
Who is number 18 after these guys?

Teemu Selänne
Mikko Koivu
Valtteri Filppula
Antti Miettinen
Jussi Jokinen
Ville Leino
Sean Bergenheim
Saku Koivu
Jarkko Ruutu
Joni Pitkänen
Toni Lydman
Niklas Hagman
Tuomo Ruutu
Olli Jokinen
Kimmo Timonen
Sami Lepistö
Lauri Korpikoski


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Aw, me bugger. Looks like I need an extra set of fingers.


But eh. I'm inclined to think that the rest of the stuff I said still holds. At least up 'til the point somebody comes and tells me I f*ed up with the number of KHLers as well.

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My interpretation of stats was pretty loose in terms of who was a regular and who wasn't, but the table should give a decent picture of the progress. Goalies included.

Finns in NHL:
season~regularstotalgamespoints
1995-969 to 1114720429
1996-9710 to 1217855467
1997-9812 to 1317906464
1998-9913 to 1417942470
1999-0018 to 20261321555
2000-0124 to 25341736647
2001-0222 to 24421803621
2002-0320 to 25381832672
2003-0422 to 26381863560
2005-0625 to 28391966823
2006-0729 to 32422293889
2007-0825 to 30401889688
2008-0927 to 30431987762
2009-1027 to 30381906715
2010-11~24 to 26???

- Salo and Salmela are still injured. Maybe one or two of I. Filppula, T. Laakso, J. Joensuu, O. Osala, M. Koskinen, T. Hartikainen and J. Lehtivuori get some games in the big show as well.
- AHL is no longer a lucrative alternative for Finns, wages in KHL are 10 to 15 times better.

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32 over the season 2009-2010. But only 19 of them had a regular role. Also, it's 18 skaters this year, not 17. All of them seem to be having a regular role as well.

But still, this shows the dip we had in player production in classes born between years 1987-90. Every other European nation is having about ten or so 20-to-23-year-olds over there showing what they can do, whereas we have only like two or three. The worst seems to be over though and I think we're on a rising curve again with guys like Granlund, Vatanen leading the way and more in the pipeline.

If it's of any consolence though, the Finns are the most populous foreigners in KHL. Currently we have 19 guys over there as regulars.
Finnish KHLers:

Goalies:
Vehanen-Kazan
Ramo-Omsk

Defensemen:
Pikkarainen-Minsk
Niskala-Magnitogorsk
Kukkonen-Magnitogorsk
Heikkinen-Novosibirsk

Forwards:
Lehtera-Yaroslavel
Komarov-Dynamo Moscow
Aaltonen-Magnitogorsk
Kontiola-Magnitogorsk
Nieminen-Novosibirsk
Enlund-Novosibirsk
N.Kapanen-Kazan
Immonen-Kazan
Pesonen-Kazan

So, just 15 players. 1 more than Sweden. And Czechs have 28 players, both Slovakia aND Canada have around 25.

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In KHL:

Finns (15)- http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...KHL&NationID=2

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At the moment there are 16 Finns in the KHL, if you include Mika Oksa and count Komarov as a Finn. A week ago the number was 17, but Mika Viinanen just got fired.

Niko Kapanen (F)
Ville Nieminen (F)
Jori Lehterä (F)
Petri Kontiola (F)
Jonas Enlund (F)
Juhamatti Aaltonen (F)
Leo Komarov (F)
Janne Pesonen (F)
Jarkko Immonen (F)

Janne Niskala (D)
Ilkka Heikkinen (D)
Hannu Pikkarainen (D)
Lasse Kukkonen (D)

Petri Vehanen (GK)
Karri Rämö (GK)
Mika Oksa (GK)

EDIT: In addition there are 3 Finnish head coaches; Kari Heikkilä, Kai Suikkanen and Raimo Summanen.


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Whew. So my number was correct, in a sense. Saw it in an pre-season article that apparently had the 16 players (including Viinanen and Komarov, who is a regular in the Finnish NT and therefore a Finn, hands down) plus the three coaches.

But eh, with the recent exclusion of Viinanen, seems like only 13 skaters. And I was flat-out wrong when claiming that Finns are the ruling foreigner body in KHL. Need to work better on my sources.


KHL is a good thing for European hockey overall. I much prefer our players getting top-line minutes in KHL over same icetime in AHL or bottom-six minutes in NHL.

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