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10-24-2010, 10:56 AM
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I would've rather sent down Loktionov to Manchester when Greene came back, not Muzzin. Loktionov clearly isn't ready for the show, he's shown flashes of brilliance here and there but he needs to work on his game down there, play some big minute for that club and lead, alongside Hickey, Muzzin, Moller.
Exactly what I have been saying. Sending Muzzin down made no sense.

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10-24-2010, 11:06 AM
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And the Kings are in second place in the conference
Normally I don't even bother looking at standings this early but it is interesting in this case because of how the new tiebreaker shootout rule is affecting things.

The Kings are 2nd due to that new shootout tiebreaker rule. Dallas has won 2 games via shootout, Kings have won 1. Kings have one more regulation win than Dallas = higher seed. Last year Dallas would have been ahead of the Kings due to their goal differential being higher.

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10-24-2010, 11:10 AM
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Normally I don't even bother looking at standings this early but it is interesting in this case because of how the new tiebreaker shootout rule is affecting things.

The Kings are 2nd due to that new shootout tiebreaker rule. Dallas has won 2 games via shootout, Kings have won 1. Kings have one more regulation win than Dallas = higher seed. Last year Dallas would have been ahead of the Kings due to their goal differential being higher.
Good rule as long as it gains the Kings...

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10-24-2010, 11:13 AM
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Will Wayne Simmonds' butt-end warrant suspension for Kings?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...aining-content

"Will it be a suspension for Simmonds? Evidence suggests otherwise.

Note that it wasn't in fact a match penalty. An update on Galiardi, via Denver Post:

"TJ Galiardi seemed OK after the game. He took a stick to the privates from Wayne Simmonds, which drew a 5-minute major. I bet Simmonds gets off from being suspended, because Galiardi wasn't seriously hurt after all, but it was a cheapshot. Simmonds gave me a terse "no comment" after the game when I asked him about it. "

When it comes to butt-ends and spearing that don't result in significant injuries, the NHL's usually left it on the ice. Witness Derek Boogaard and Chris Neil from earlier this season. Witness last season, when Tomas Plekanec butt-ended David Krejci to the face and escaped punishment - despite already being "in the system" for a slew foot earlier in 2009."

No injury, no massively incriminating video to make the League look bad and a history of this thing going unpunished ... the Wheel of Discipline lands on "move along, nothing to see here."

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10-24-2010, 11:18 AM
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Will Wayne Simmonds' butt-end warrant suspension for Kings?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...aining-content

"Will it be a suspension for Simmonds? Evidence suggests otherwise.

Note that it wasn't in fact a match penalty. An update on Galiardi, via Denver Post:

"TJ Galiardi seemed OK after the game. He took a stick to the privates from Wayne Simmonds, which drew a 5-minute major. I bet Simmonds gets off from being suspended, because Galiardi wasn't seriously hurt after all, but it was a cheapshot. Simmonds gave me a terse "no comment" after the game when I asked him about it. "

When it comes to butt-ends and spearing that don't result in significant injuries, the NHL's usually left it on the ice. Witness Derek Boogaard and Chris Neil from earlier this season. Witness last season, when Tomas Plekanec butt-ended David Krejci to the face and escaped punishment - despite already being "in the system" for a slew foot earlier in 2009."

No injury, no massively incriminating video to make the League look bad and a history of this thing going unpunished ... the Wheel of Discipline lands on "move along, nothing to see here."
Sounds good to me. Can't really lose Simmonds at a time like this, his game was just starting to come alive for us.

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10-24-2010, 11:53 AM
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Of course they score 6 goals when I don't watch the game so I can watch Brock Lesnar get run over.

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10-24-2010, 12:04 PM
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Noticed the last couple games(haven't been able to watch) the Kings have given up a slew of goals.

Is Quick a little off, the defense not doing so hot without Doughty, or a bit of both?

(not complaining about results)

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10-24-2010, 12:27 PM
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Last night's game was a great example of Quick having his stats take a hit even though he played very well overall. Anderson on the other hand had a terrible game.

Obviously the Kings can't replace Doughty. The goals against are going to increase accordingly. Greene helps a ton though.

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Last night's game was a great example of Quick having his stats take a hit even though he played very well overall. Anderson on the other hand had a terrible game.

Obviously the Kings can't replace Doughty. The goals against are going to increase accordingly. Greene helps a ton though.
I saw the highlights on NHL network and 2 of those goals were pretty soft. He didn't even come close to hugging the post on the one where it banked in off his leg pad and there was another one where he was too far back in the net when the player was in the slot. Bottom line though is Quick is getting the job done with the wins. You can afford to let in a soft one if your team scores 6.

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10-24-2010, 01:10 PM
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Noticed the last couple games(haven't been able to watch) the Kings have given up a slew of goals.

Is Quick a little off, the defense not doing so hot without Doughty, or a bit of both?

(not complaining about results)
You can't really blame him for Stastny's goal that was deflected in(im still amazed it went in), or the one that was tipped in the slot and kind of fluttered in(sort of like Stoll's goal in the opener). The other 2 were kind of soft.


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10-24-2010, 01:18 PM
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I saw the highlights on NHL network and 2 of those goals were pretty soft. He didn't even come close to hugging the post on the one where it banked in off his leg pad and there was another one where he was too far back in the net when the player was in the slot. Bottom line though is Quick is getting the job done with the wins. You can afford to let in a soft one if your team scores 6.

You should watch the entire game and then write about Quick's performance

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10-24-2010, 01:47 PM
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You should watch the entire game and then write about Quick's performance
i saw the whole game, and quick was average. He wasnt bad by any means, but he did let in a few softies.

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10-24-2010, 02:54 PM
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i saw the whole game, and quick was average. He wasnt bad by any means, but he did let in a few softies.
I didn't see anything I would term "soft". The Stastny goal was a deflected pass/shot that ended up right on Stastny's stick and was a goal scorers' goal. If Kopitar had made that play we would all be saying, "What a nice play, great shot by Kopi." Stastny made a nice play.

Let's don't forget Quick stoned Stewart on a mini-breakaway and that guy has been red-hot for the Avs. Overall Quick had a good game.

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10-24-2010, 03:00 PM
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I didn't see anything I would term "soft". The Stastny goal was a deflected pass/shot that ended up right on Stastny's stick and was a goal scorers' goal. If Kopitar had made that play we would all be saying, "What a nice play, great shot by Kopi." Stastny made a nice play.

Let's don't forget Quick stoned Stewart on a mini-breakaway and that guy has been red-hot for the Avs. Overall Quick had a good game.
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10-24-2010, 03:01 PM
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Not much mentioned about Poni's 500:th nhl game..... that's a shame.

That is a milestone worth mentioning

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10-24-2010, 04:31 PM
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I saw the highlights on NHL network and 2 of those goals were pretty soft. He didn't even come close to hugging the post on the one where it banked in off his leg pad and there was another one where he was too far back in the net when the player was in the slot. Bottom line though is Quick is getting the job done with the wins. You can afford to let in a soft one if your team scores 6.
... I gotta say that I disagree here. I didn't think Quick let in anything particularly soft. The sharp-angled goal was off of a rebound, wasn't it? He didn't impress me the way he has in the previous games, but he wasn't bad either. He had a very impressive stretch (I believe it was in the second period) where he certainly made some tough saves.

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Not much mentioned about Poni's 500:th nhl game..... that's a shame.

That is a milestone worth mentioning
When theirs a hat-trick, and a controversial play that could lead to the suspension of a key player. The 500th game of a player that has been a King for 7 games might take a backseat.

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Willie Mitchell has 3 assists and is a +5 so far this season and was aggressive again last night. Better signing than Kovy ever was.

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... I gotta say that I disagree here. I didn't think Quick let in anything particularly soft. The sharp-angled goal was off of a rebound, wasn't it? He didn't impress me the way he has in the previous games, but he wasn't bad either. He had a very impressive stretch (I believe it was in the second period) where he certainly made some tough saves.
It deflected off one of the players in front before it got to Quick.

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Willie Mitchell has 3 assists and is a +5 so far this season and was aggressive again last night.
... I don't see where +5 means all that much in the early going, as Scuderi's been excellent and the most reliable D this season and yet has the same +/- as Harrold and Muzzin. Mitchell's three assists are all secondary assists and whatever, they all count I suppose - but look at the assists: one was the broken play that led to Richardson's first goal last night, another was Loktionov's bank-in-off-the-goalie goal, and third one was the Stoll in-off-the-skate goal against Atlanta. Mitchell's numbers seem to be more of a "hey, I was out there too!" type of thing and he's certainly made his share of errors this season to boot.

Don't get me wrong, he's been OK and all so far - but nothing to get too crazy about.

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Better signing than Kovy ever was.
... No. Just, no.

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... No. Just, no.
yes... just yes...

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Mitchell has been pretty good. Not amazing, but good. Scuderi has been our best defenseman, but he was the main reason why one goal came against us last night. Kovalchuk has been pretty okay in New Jersey; he's alright offensively, but he hasn't been doing anything else. Right now, our team is showing lots of offensive depth. I would rather have Mitchell at the moment or Kovy. I still presume we'll be trying to land some sort of big fish closer to the deadline.

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It deflected off one of the players in front before it got to Quick.
The Statsny goal from the goal line, Quick was in position for the 1st shot that got blocked and it went right to Stastny's stick, Quick did a quick pushover, but Stastny is a right handed shot, and that did not bank off of Quick, it hit the far goal post and in, excellent, amazing shot, but if Stastny was left-handed, no goal.

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The Statsny goal from the goal line, Quick was in position for the 1st shot that got blocked and it went right to Stastny's stick, Quick did a quick pushover, but Stastny is a right handed shot, and that did not bank off of Quick, it hit the far goal post and in, excellent, amazing shot, but if Stastny was left-handed, no goal.
Stastny is a left handed shot.

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The Statsny goal from the goal line, Quick was in position for the 1st shot that got blocked and it went right to Stastny's stick, Quick did a quick pushover, but Stastny is a right handed shot, and that did not bank off of Quick, it hit the far goal post and in, excellent, amazing shot, but if Stastny was left-handed, no goal.
Stastny is a left-handed shot, the puck was on the red line when he shot it and did hit off the inside of the far post. The only way that can happen is if it hits Quick somewhere first. Otherwise there's no way he can curve that shot from the red line around the front post and off the inside of the far post.

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