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03-08-2011, 06:59 AM
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does sundin get bonus points as the offensive engine on his line.

He never had a equal stud forward player to play with he always got past prime free agents and castaways ...that has to affect his numbers along with playing the majority of his career in the dead puck era

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does sundin get bonus points as the offensive engine on his line.

He never had a equal stud forward player to play with he always got past prime free agents and castaways ...that has to affect his numbers along with playing the majority of his career in the dead puck era
Yes, since it is so easy to account for and calculate, Sundin's results have a built in 12.676673% bonus added to them. Except for 2001 and 2002, where it is just 7.45449%.

as for the dead puck era, that doesn't affect his numbers as they apply to metrics like this one.

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Yes, since it is so easy to account for and calculate, Sundin's results have a built in 12.676673% bonus added to them. Except for 2001 and 2002, where it is just 7.45449%.

as for the dead puck era, that doesn't affect his numbers as they apply to metrics like this one.
I can't tell if I should be facepalming or just laughing my ass off..

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Highest low score in a 5 year period for their career

PlayerG1G2G3G4A1A2A3A4P1P2P3P4
Alex Delvecchio0.52000.54050.55560.60710.61290.77550.79170.86360.59550.68750.78570.8462
Wayne Gretzky0.80880.94830.98211.00001.00001.37211.53251.61641.00001.52481.55801.6412
Mike Modano0.55930.58330.60870.62220.56630.70150.75000.78330.63780.71190.80200.8351
Jean Ratelle0.41180.53850.59090.60470.51720.60530.70770.74190.53730.55380.63810.7528
Mats Sundin0.51920.54000.60000.63460.61190.61190.62120.66130.62400.63410.77080.7789
Pierre Turgeon0.55070.62750.67860.71700.47920.52270.62670.64380.59630.64430.72310.7581

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Highest low score in a 5 year period for their career

PlayerG1G2G3G4A1A2A3A4P1P2P3P4
Alex Delvecchio0.52000.54050.55560.60710.61290.77550.79170.86360.59550.68750.78570.8462
Wayne Gretzky0.80880.94830.98211.00001.00001.37211.53251.61641.00001.52481.55801.6412
Mike Modano0.55930.58330.60870.62220.56630.70150.75000.78330.63780.71190.80200.8351
Jean Ratelle0.41180.53850.59090.60470.51720.60530.70770.74190.53730.55380.63810.7528
Mats Sundin0.51920.54000.60000.63460.61190.61190.62120.66130.62400.63410.77080.7789
Pierre Turgeon0.55070.62750.67860.71700.47920.52270.62670.64380.59630.64430.72310.7581
so, in Gretzky's best five-year period (the hand-picked five-year period in which his lowest score of the five would be the highest of any other five-year period in his career), he was always at least 55% higher than the #3 point scorer. Is that what this is saying?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, since "highest low score" is confusing in itself

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Let's add Bucyk and Francis to the mix.

Points: Seasons with percentage scores 40%+ vs 1-2-3-4
PlayerYears40%50%60%70%80%90%100%
John Bucyk2319-19-20-2017-18-18-1913-18-18-185-7-12-150-4-5-60-0-2-30-0-1-1
Alex Delvecchio2420-21-22-2217-19-19-2210-15-17-196-8-13-142-5-7-100-0-1-20-0-0-1
Ron Francis2319-23-23-2313-18-19-218-14-15-168-10-12-123-5-8-90-1-5-50-0-0-1
Wayne Gretzky2020-20-20-2018-19-19-1918-18-19-1916-16-18-1815-16-17-1712-15-16-1611-13-15-16
Mike Modano2017-18-18-1914-15-16-168-11-12-134-7-8-93-3-7-70-0-1-20-0-0-0
Jean Ratelle2115-15-15-1512-14-14-149-10-12-134-8-9-103-4-6-80-3-4-60-0-1-2
Mats Sundin1816-17-17-1716-16-17-1714-15-16-166-9-14-141-4-7-80-0-2-20-0-0-1
Pierre Turgeon1915-16-17-1711-14-14-149-12-12-124-7-10-101-2-6-70-0-1-10-0-0-0

Change this up and list just the years in the percentage range, 40-49.99%, 50-59.99%, etc.
PlayerYears-40%40-49.99%50-59.99%60-69.99%70-79.99%80-89.99%90-99.99%100%+
John Bucyk234-4-3-32-1-2-14-0-0-18-11-6-35-3-7-90-4-3-30-0-1-20-0-1-1
Alex Delvecchio244-3-2-23-2-3-07-4-2-34-7-4-54-3-6-42-5-6-80-0-1-10-0-0-1
Ron Francis234-0-0-06-5-4-24-4-4-51-4-3-45-5-4-33-4-3-40-1-5-40-0-0-1
Wayne Gretzky200-0-0-02-1-1-10-1-0-02-2-1-11-0-1-13-1-1-11-2-1-011-13-15-16
Mike Modano203-2-2-13-3-2-36-4-4-34-4-4-41-4-1-23-3-6-50-0-1-20-0-0-0
Jean Ratelle216-6-6-63-1-1-13-4-2-15-2-3-31-4-3-23-1-2-20-3-3-40-0-1-2
Mats Sundin182-1-1-10-1-0-02-1-1-18-6-2-25-5-7-61-4-5-60-0-2-10-0-0-1
Pierre Turgeon194-3-2-24-2-3-32-2-2-25-5-2-23-5-4-31-2-5-60-0-1-10-0-0-0

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