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11-19-2010, 04:17 PM
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haha, i love how intent Bob is to keep balls out of the hole

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This is a very interesting article...

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/islan...FSTGThUs2v7pWI

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The straw that broke the camel's back came on Tuesday, when Chris Botta, one of the few remaining reporters covering the Islanders on a daily basis, did numerous radio and television interviews after Monday's firing of the head coach, Scott Gordon.

On Tuesday, Botta received a call from Kimber Auerbach, the Islanders' public relations man, and was informed that he would no longer be credentialed for practices or games.

Botta was told the official stance of management was that he "went from reporting the news to making the news," all stemming from his very popular blog, Islanders Point Blank.

"The only time that might have unwittingly happened was when I twice posted that [general manager] Garth [Snow] declined an interview," Botta told The Post yesterday. "I'm sorry for that now, but I wanted to let my readers know what was happening."

After many years as the Islanders' media-relations vice president, Botta started the blog with the sponsorship of the team. That ended in August of last year, and that's when Snow stopped talking to Botta altogether.

"Even though we had been colleagues and friends and had a working relationship, Garth stopped talking to me pretty soon after that," Botta said. "I can make the presumption that he then thought of me [as] on the other side of media. I was no longer an ally, so he cut me off."

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Weird. Why would Snow cut Botta off?

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New Jersey Devils confirm Pat Burns has passed away according to multiple Twitter comments.

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Weird. Why would Snow cut Botta off?
He was their former VP of PR. I think this is the key reference:

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Snow likely had an issue with something in the blog, maybe the remark about "declining an interview." This seems like an issue that will eventually involve the NHL.

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Weird. Why would Snow cut Botta off?
Wang probably told him to.

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New Jersey Devils confirm Pat Burns has passed away according to multiple Twitter comments.
Very sad, although expected, news.

One of the best coaches in the NHL.

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New Jersey Devils confirm Pat Burns has passed away according to multiple Twitter comments.
Damn. He put up a good fight. RIP.

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James Duthie interviewed Colin Campbell today:

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James Duthie: Do you think this entire episode diminishes your credibility or your ability to do the job?

Colin Campbell: No, not at all. We've been challenged before. I've been challenged before in decisions and I don't blame players (or) teams for challenging me or hockey operations. We have to make tough decisions and they're passionate and I've been in their position before as a player or a coach thinking they're wrong and you just have to soldier on and deal with what the league says. And for someone to say all of sudden emails that were strung together from three, four and five years ago all of a sudden, to say I can't do the job three years later, then that must mean everything I did the past three years were wrong or should be questioned.

Duthie: But you understand the perception publicly?

Campbell: Sure I understand the perception. But I also understand that there's always transparency in this job. There's internal transparency with the teams, and the managers and the league, and there's the transparency that is demanded of us by groups like yours, your panel, the media coverage in every city that anything we do will be critiqued and watched differently and discussed and compared. For something like this to be positioned like it was and how it came out is in my mind is totally wrong and absurd.

Duthie: But, do you believe the emails to former referee-in-chief Stephen Walkom were inappropriate?

Campbell: No they weren't inappropriate in the sense and in the time that they were sent, they were just like dressing room conversations - you're talking back and forth. Stephen was a good guy, you could challenge Stephen on the work that the group officials did because we were being challenged on a nightly basis by our teams. Your group, for example, your panel, challenges almost every call on a nightly basis. And Stephen was the filter. And I've said many of times to Stephen or Terry Gregson or Andy Van Hellemond or Brian Lewis, anybody that ran the officials - I've never skated five seconds in your official's skates. These are the questions that were handed by our managers, our coaches or players. Now you have to tell us or we will ask the question for them. And we're challenged with that accountability; our officials are challenged every night. And they've got a tough job. And we take those challenges through our director of officials and they take them and discuss them with their people. And that's the transparency that we're challenged with.

Duthie: But when you have a quote like calling Marc Savard a 'little fake artist' and when there are emails involving calls involving your son – how can you not acknowledge there's somewhat inappropriateness to that?

Campbell: Well, it is inappropriate. But no one told me or maybe told you five years ago that you can take your emails and read them all. If I knew someone was going to read my emails, then I would have positioned it differently. I would have said, 'Okay, on this play I think this player was embellishing these two calls. Would you please check into it?'

We say that on a nightly basis. You could probably ... there are other emails that would say that about certain plays. But now after three years ago, when they demanded our emails in a hearing where we released an official, we said “ok everyone. We have to be careful. This is not dressing room talk anymore on your emails. This is a formal situation. This is like something … if you're going to ask a question on email, you have to take into account they might be reading your email on TSN tomorrow. So say it in a way that everyone can't interpret it as something else, that they have to interpret it as what exactly you're saying.
There's more; you should have a look.

Campbell's such an *******.

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"If I knew someone was going to read my emails, then I would have positioned it differently"

haha what a nob

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"If I knew someone was going to read my emails, then I would have positioned it differently"

At least he's honest. lol.

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RIP Pat, condolonces to the Burns family

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Holy **** does ****tsburgh get all the calls. They had a goal waved off because the whistle blew. The replay CLEARLY shows the whistle blew. And they OVERTURNED the call on the ice. Even the ****tsburgh announcers didn't think it was a goal.

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11-19-2010, 09:21 PM
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Holy **** does ****tsburgh get all the calls. They had a goal waved off because the whistle blew. The replay CLEARLY shows the whistle blew. And they OVERTURNED the call on the ice. Even the ****tsburgh announcers didn't think it was a goal.

There's been a few of those smelly calls this year. There was one in Minnesota early in the season where it was called a goal because that's what the ruling on the ice was, when there was never a call made at all. That might have happened to the Flyers also. However, they can determine if the puck went in before the intent to blow the whistle, which is why it smells to begin with because you can call them off for the same reason.

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There's been a few of those smelly calls this year. There was one in Minnesota early in the season where it was called a goal because that's what the ruling on the ice was, when there was never a call made at all. That might have happened to the Flyers also. However, they can determine if the puck went in before the intent to blow the whistle, which is why it smells to begin with because you can call them off for the same reason.
Lookin' at the replay, it appeared to me that the whistle blew after it crossed...so I don't see how it could've been SO conclusive to actually overturn it. That's even without the intent crap.

Good on Carolina for tying it in the last seconds...

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Lookin' at the replay, it appeared to me that the whistle blew after it crossed...so I don't see how it could've been SO conclusive to actually overturn it. That's even without the intent crap.

Good on Carolina for tying it in the last seconds...
Exactly. Whatever happened to "intent to blow the whistle"?

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Caps got shut out by Atlanta. So I'm guessing they'll score 7 tomorrow.

Also, today's Kings remind me a lot of the Flyers. Can't clear the zone to save their lifes.

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what's this? pittsburgh being on the receiving end of questionable goal calls?

SURELY NOT.

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Caps got shut out by Atlanta. So I'm guessing they'll score 7 tomorrow.

Also, today's Kings remind me a lot of the Flyers. Can't clear the zone to save their lifes.
They look lost without Willie Mitchell

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They look lost without Willie Mitchell
hopefully the Kings will do us a favor and call up Thomas Hickey.

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Luongo doing what he does, and that's choke against the Blackhawks.

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Quarter-ish (21 games) season pacings:

vanRiemsdyk (0-32-32) - Richards (35-55-90) - Nodl (30-18-48)
Hartnell (23-31-54) - Briere (44-18-62) - Leino (12-51-63)
Powe (12-16-28) - Giroux (43-43-86) - Carter (39-27-66)
Zherdev (29-4-33) - Betts (12-16-28) - Shelley (0-4-4)

Pronger (13-38-51) - Carle (0-27-27)
Timonen (4-39-43) - Coburn (4-16-20)
Meszaros (4-20-24) - O'Donnell (0-4-4)

We're on pace for 292 goals, and our GPG is 2nd in the NHL behind Detroit.

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