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11-03-2010, 08:49 AM
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NHL needs to get rid of the trap, and here is how

I was never a fan of the trap style hockey and I believe it hurts the game in the long run as it reduces scoring and scoring chances, which every fan wants to see. So here is my idea to get rid of the trap, let me know what you think and if you have any other ideas that would minimize the trap.

so here it is...

Change the offsides rule to read that if a team is on their side of centre and breaking the puck into the offensive zone that no player shall be deemed offsides by crossing the opponents blue line before the puck crosses the line. HOWEVER offsides will still be called if the puck leaves the offensive zone and does not cross centre and it brought back in before players clear the offensive zone (Offensive blue line to the net)

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Just eliminate the blue lines and use the center line as the offside line.

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11-03-2010, 09:06 AM
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You realize that your idea loses all credibility because of your use of the word "offsides".

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offside_%28ice_hockey%29

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so what your saying is, have a floating offside line, red line going in, blue line going out..

Just like broomball, if you want that go watch broomball

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No I am saying no offsides at all if they are coming from their side of Centre .. the only time there would be offsides is the puck is taken from the offensive zone (Blue Line to Net) then they would have to clear the zone to come back in OR carry the puck to centre and then you would not have to clear the zone at all

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11-03-2010, 09:44 AM
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I'm not sure that would be any better. Encouraging a dump and chase from further back may stiffle carrying the puck more than the trap would.

The problem with allowing people to get so far from the play without penalty is it reduces the game to shinny.

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I'm not sure that would be any better. Encouraging a dump and chase from further back may stiffle carrying the puck more than the trap would.

The problem with allowing people to get so far from the play without penalty is it reduces the game to shinny.
I dont think it would become dump and chase (the Trap actually encourages a Dump and chase game) what it would create is cherry picking, but that could also lead to more turn overs and end to end action instead of just a lump of players in the neutral zone clogging it up

Also according the the wiki link someone posted the IIHF member countries have already eliminated off sides... most leagues (according to the link) do not have the offsides rules

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I guess I just don't see a problem with the trap (or any defensive system, really). To me, complaining about a defensive system being too effective is like banning poetry that doesn't rhyme.

Perhaps instead of looking for ways to increase offense, the league should start educating fans on what a well-executed defensive system looks like. If fans can recognize, understand, and appreciate it as a skill, they won't call to ban it.

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I guess I just don't see a problem with the trap (or any defensive system, really). To me, complaining about a defensive system being too effective is like banning poetry that doesn't rhyme.

Perhaps instead of looking for ways to increase offense, the league should start educating fans on what a well-executed defensive system looks like. If fans can recognize, understand, and appreciate it as a skill, they won't call to ban it.
I agree with ya. Besides in the new NHL, even if teams trap there are still going to be 15 powerplays every game to generate some scoring chances

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I guess I just don't see a problem with the trap (or any defensive system, really). To me, complaining about a defensive system being too effective is like banning poetry that doesn't rhyme.

Perhaps instead of looking for ways to increase offense, the league should start educating fans on what a well-executed defensive system looks like. If fans can recognize, understand, and appreciate it as a skill, they won't call to ban it.
Agree, teams use the trap because it's an effective system. It's slightly less effective now, due to the speed and reduction of obstruction in the post-lockout NHL.

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How about executing coaches who employ it? Like litterally have them face up to a firing squad at high noon?

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Don't wanna pick on you or anything, but let's not start this "tl dr" BS on the sens board...you come here to discuss, and read ideas people have. If not then just sign up on Ottawa Citizen and leave comments on their articles.

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How about executing coaches who employ it? Like litterally have them face up to a firing squad at high noon?
Tough, but fair.

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Also according the the wiki link someone posted the IIHF member countries have already eliminated off sides... most leagues (according to the link) do not have the offsides rules
No, most leagues do not have the offside pass rule. Also, there is no "s" at the end of offside.

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To increase scoring marginally make players who take a penalty serve the full two minutes even if their team is scored upon & make the nets slightly bigger.

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11-03-2010, 11:13 PM
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I like the game how it is right now.
I watched the 3rd of Tor-Was and it was great hockey
I watched a big chunk of the Pit-Dal game and it was awesome
I watched Det-Cgy and enjoyed it a lot

Nothings wrong with the game.

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11-04-2010, 06:41 AM
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i like the game how its going and as bob mac said today whats better a 2-1 game in last ten or 5-1 .....i just think that the two line pass rule hurts the actually play of the game because all it is now is a long pass to red with deflection or touch so its a dump in then go get it, plays always moving but still not much fun. I believe that the best option is bigger blue and red lines. This makes more ice without actually making the ice surface bigger, yet the strech dump isnt plausable and makes teams make plays.

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Also according the the wiki link someone posted the IIHF member countries have already eliminated off sides... most leagues (according to the link) do not have the offsides rules
Not a league in the world has offsides rules. Because there is no such thing as offsides.

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Just eliminate the blue lines and use the center line as the offside line.
Soccer style centre line is what I was thinking of as well, but icing, breakaways, and breakouts may suffer.

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I watched the 3rd of Tor-Was and it was great hockey
That 3rd period was terrible, terrible hockey.

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That 3rd period was terrible, terrible hockey.
No way... it was run and gun back and forth

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No way... it was run and gun back and forth
And both teams are not trap style teams..

Lets put Boston vs NJ in there, how would you enjoy their games if they both played their classic trap style

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And both teams are not trap style teams..

Lets put Boston vs NJ in there, how would you enjoy their games if they both played their classic trap style
I enjoy a well structured defense though... I like seeing teams trying to beat Bostons trap.

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I like seeing teams beating boston's trap too, what i would hate is having to watch boston play on a regular basis. I like that they win, but they are mind numbingly boring.
I'd rather lose a few more games than play like that, its horrifying.

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