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11-03-2010, 09:35 PM
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Gab / Dru / Prospal - LTIR?

I haven't been able to find any information about any of these guys being placed one IR/LTIR. Any clue why they haven't been or what reason there would be not to do this? I'm scratching my head. I know it can be done retroactively before activating a player, but is there any advantage to that?

- Obviously, this as it pertains to salary cap issues.

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I haven't been able to find any information about any of these guys being placed one IR/LTIR. Any clue why they haven't been or what reason there would be not to do this? I'm scratching my head. I know it can be done retroactively before activating a player, but is there any advantage to that?

- Obviously, this as it pertains to salary cap issues.
Idk seems a little weird

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My undersranding is that while LTIR can get you under the cap by removing the cap hit, it doesnt create cap space for the end of the season.

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I'm no cap guru but what's point of placing them on LTIR when we wont use that cap space. If we do place them and use that space then we'll be in trouble when those guys come back. We would have to make room for them somehow.

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I haven't been able to find any information about any of these guys being placed one IR/LTIR. Any clue why they haven't been or what reason there would be not to do this? I'm scratching my head. I know it can be done retroactively before activating a player, but is there any advantage to that?

- Obviously, this as it pertains to salary cap issues.
http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=540863

They are on injured reserve, otherwise we would be over the cap with white and grachev here. Scroll down to the middle of the article for info on drury, gabs, and prospal.

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http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=540863

They are on injured reserve, otherwise we would be over the cap with white and grachev here. Scroll down to the middle of the article for info on drury, gabs, and prospal.
capgeek has all 3 still count against the cap and us still $1 mil under...thats not an official source but just shows that we wouldn't be over the cap

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LTIR is only a cap exception. You can exceed the cap by up to the amount of the injured player for the amount of time he is out. However, cap space is never banked under any circumstance, and the player's daily cap hit counts on the cap every day. LTIR is for teams at the upper limit to provide temporary cap space to call up replacement players and team's must be back under the upper limit before a player can return.

This is why Gaborik, Drury, and Prospal are not on LTIR.

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There's no need and no real benefit to having them on LTIR at the present time.

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If they miss 10 games (or 25? days), we can retroactively place them on the LTIR and get the cap savings. Gaborik needs to miss two more games to get LTIR status and savings but that might not happen as he is already back skating. Drury also needs 2 more games. I didn't see the Toronto game but he's listed as having played that game. Prospal should be on there already so we should be getting cap savings from him already. Cheapest cap hit of the trio though.

edit: 10 games saving on Dru and Gabs = ~$1.77M cap savings which translates to being able to afford an $8M UFA to be for the last 18 games of the season (post trade deadline). Brad Richards makes $7.8M Just saying...


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If they miss 10 games (or 25? days), we can retroactively place them on the LTIR and get the cap savings. Gaborik needs to miss two more games to get LTIR status and savings but that might not happen as he is already back skating. Drury also needs 2 more games. I didn't see the Toronto game but he's listed as having played that game. Prospal should be on there already so we should be getting cap savings from him already. Cheapest cap hit of the trio though.

edit: 10 games saving on Dru and Gabs = ~$1.77M cap savings which translates to being able to afford an $8M UFA to be for the last 18 games of the season (post trade deadline). Brad Richards makes $7.8M Just saying...
Did you read the posts above you? LTIR does not create any cap savings! It only allows to go over the cap while the players are injured, afterwards it's all like they never were injured cap-wise.

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