Time to bring this one back. Does anyone honestly want Snow here anymore. He rarely will give an interview and when he does he makes himself look even worse. he has made ZERO moves to improve the team. I am not saying mortgage the future, but at least add a salary dump. He says he has money to spend but refuses to spend it. Snow is a ****ing clown and should be on unemployment. SNOW MUST GO!!!
The only reason snow was hired as gm in the 1st place was because he was unqualified, therefore he would be a puppet for the real GM, Charles Wang. So why would Wang fire him. Wang fired Gordan, Wang hired Capuano, Wang decided the payroll would be league minimum. Wang forces the coach to play Dipietro despite Dipietros save % being worst in all of hockey. Wang banned Botta from the coliseum. Wang decided to sign Yashin for 9 years, instead of 5. Dipietro for 15 years instead of 5. Heres what Snow gets to decide, (which waiver wire player to pick up, and which AHL free agent to sign to a minimum wage NHL contract.)......That said, Snow is smug, a axxhole, and not a good talent evaluator for drafting. None of the picks have done anything at the NHL level besides Tavares being Mark Parrish the 2nd, and Hamonic being O.K. Snow does need to go , but the real GM is Wang...make no mistake about it.
Hamonic has been a lot better than ok. He's been great.
Give JT some legitimate NHL talent to work with and those 30 goals he'll probably score this year quickly turn into 45. Give him elite talent to work with and that 45 goes up to 55.
Hamonic has been a lot better than ok. He's been great.
Give JT some legitimate NHL talent to work with and those 30 goals he'll probably score this year quickly turn into 45. Give him elite talent to work with and that 45 goes up to 55.
I agree here. Hamonic is able to deliver that key check, plays with grit and can run the point on a power play and he is just 20, he could be the better version of Brian McCabe which is fine with me.
JT needs to have Gagne and Ryder on his line yesterday.... Moulson is hurting him more and more, yeah they are buddies but Moulson needs to be the garbage man for Schremp and Comeau. Can you imagine that Comeau and Schremp got 3 points each tonight, but their linemate got none (Sim)
The only reason snow was hired as gm in the 1st place was because he was unqualified, therefore he would be a puppet for the real GM, Charles Wang. So why would Wang fire him. Wang fired Gordan, Wang hired Capuano, Wang decided the payroll would be league minimum. Wang forces the coach to play Dipietro despite Dipietros save % being worst in all of hockey. Wang banned Botta from the coliseum. Wang decided to sign Yashin for 9 years, instead of 5. Dipietro for 15 years instead of 5. Heres what Snow gets to decide, (which waiver wire player to pick up, and which AHL free agent to sign to a minimum wage NHL contract.)......That said, Snow is smug, a axxhole, and not a good talent evaluator for drafting. None of the picks have done anything at the NHL level besides Tavares being Mark Parrish the 2nd, and Hamonic being O.K. Snow does need to go , but the real GM is Wang...make no mistake about it.
If you honestly believe this, than Snow should shut his mouth and stop making himself look like a clown. Wang did hand out those awful contracts, but everything else has been Snow. Wang owns other companies and Snow is the man he left in charge to run this one. Snow is a jackass who is too big of a ***** to make a move because of what Milbury did 10 years ago. **** Snow
A week before Hamonic was called up, the reports from Bridgport was he has been "OK" in bridgport. Now hes been "great"? Like Potvin "great" or mark Streit "great"? I personally don't watch the games anymore...If Hamonics been great then maybe he will win rookie of the year award..we have a lot of season left. Tavares today is hardly better then mark Parrish in his prime. Great within 12 feet of the goal, but no physical game, slow skater, doesn't fight, tavares is better passer. I saw Ziggy Pallfy pile up points on terrible islander teams all by himself. Ziggy Pallfy was dynamic offensively. Tavares? He is Mark Parrish, Derek King, he will bang home a pass from someone else but he is not the one creating the offense. I'm not even angry they drafted him, but can see things realistically.
^^Hamonic has been very impressive. Good positionally, good outlet passes, and he has led the rush a few times too. I have been impressed with the kid so far especially playing in the ****show and more than holding his own.
Pointless. Is Garth Snow unqualified to be a GM? Probably. But, this whole discussion is pointless. This **** show is all the result of one man and he is Charles Wang. No qualified hockey person is going to come to Long Island to fill any necessary and badly needed role.
President of Hockey Operations, General Manager, Director of Player Development, Director of Amateur Scouting, etc. Professionals in all mentioned positions, would require a environment where their talents are respected and they have the ability to DO the actual job they have been hired to do.
Sorry folks, 10yrs of the great traveling Wang circus has us as the place you go, when you can't go anywhere else. And you have to be one desperate mother****er to come here.
When Wang sells is when the Islander revival really begins.
If you honestly believe this, than Snow should shut his mouth and stop making himself look like a clown. Wang did hand out those awful contracts, but everything else has been Snow. Wang owns other companies and Snow is the man he left in charge to run this one. Snow is a jackass who is too big of a ***** to make a move because of what Milbury did 10 years ago. **** Snow
Yes, it's true. Wang bought out Yash, Wang made the decision to have Gorto come in and make his system the basis for the entire organization, Wang signed Rick TWICE to 15 years.....
Garth got us Grabner and Moulson and some other kids and Streit. THAT is what Snow's done. Cheap, under the cap. Wang as he has always done in business, runs everything or else.
A week before Hamonic was called up, the reports from Bridgport was he has been "OK" in bridgport. Now hes been "great"? Like Potvin "great" or mark Streit "great"? I personally don't watch the games anymore...If Hamonics been great then maybe he will win rookie of the year award..we have a lot of season left. Tavares today is hardly better then mark Parrish in his prime. Great within 12 feet of the goal, but no physical game, slow skater, doesn't fight, tavares is better passer. I saw Ziggy Pallfy pile up points on terrible islander teams all by himself. Ziggy Pallfy was dynamic offensively. Tavares? He is Mark Parrish, Derek King, he will bang home a pass from someone else but he is not the one creating the offense. I'm not even angry they drafted him, but can see things realistically.
Complain about the Islanders sucking all you want. But Hamonic, for a player just breaking into the league, has been pretty damn impressive.
A week before Hamonic was called up, the reports from Bridgport was he has been "OK" in bridgport. Now hes been "great"? Like Potvin "great" or mark Streit "great"? I personally don't watch the games anymore...If Hamonics been great then maybe he will win rookie of the year award..we have a lot of season left. Tavares today is hardly better then mark Parrish in his prime. Great within 12 feet of the goal, but no physical game, slow skater, doesn't fight, tavares is better passer. I saw Ziggy Pallfy pile up points on terrible islander teams all by himself. Ziggy Pallfy was dynamic offensively. Tavares? He is Mark Parrish, Derek King, he will bang home a pass from someone else but he is not the one creating the offense. I'm not even angry they drafted him, but can see things realistically.
Palffy was 23. Wait until JT is 23 before you talk about comparisons.
Tavares would probably have been better off in Bridgeport the last two years. Considering how Garth seems to have no intention of bringing in capable Veterans to help out. Tavares could have spent these last two years working on improving his skating and defensive game. Also, Tavares talent compared to those in the AHL gives him a better chance of still being able to dominate with out the strong supporting cast on the ice.
Almost 1 year ago I started this thread at the beginning of the 20 game losing streak. One year later we look to be in the beginning of another 20 game losing streak with another bottom 5 draft pick on the way. As usual Snow sat on his hands this off season while fans made excuses why he can't sign anyone or make a trade. Snow has done an awful job as GM.
I am sick of the tired excuses that he can not spend any money and that is why its ok for him to ALWAYS finish in the bottom 5. We brought in Rolston for 5 million, we offered Erhoff in the 5 million range, money is there to spend (at least to near the floor). It may not be much but even when Snow trys to spend money he brings in the wrong guy who is over the hill or he can not get his guy. Snow is a waste and should move onto to VS so he can hang out with Milbury.
You all know my STRONG Dislike of Snow!!! Pompousness/Arrogance and has DONE NOTHING to back that up!!! If you are Shero ET AL. you can be a little arrogant cuz they have won something!!! This GUY has done SQUAT!!! Also, Bettman if he wasn't a smarmy wimp should "Frank McCourt" Wang and take over control!!! I AM DONE WITH MY RANT CARRY ON!! SNOW MUST GO!!!SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CONDUCT A "HOSTILE TAKEOVER" of this team from CBW!!![/B]
This is Snows 4th season as GM and he has accomplished absolutely nothing in his tenure. In his first season, with a roster that was not his he was able to make the playoffs, while trading for Ryan Smyth. That may have been his best moment, BUT after trading for Smyth to go for a playoff run he attempted to trade his 40 goal guy which makes no sense. That offseason he went on to buy out Yashin, our best player in an attempt to sign Smyth and failed. Say what you want about Yashin he was the best player the team had for awhile and since he has left the team has been in the bottom 5, is that a coincidence?
Since than we have only heard the "re-build". Year 1 of the re-build he rushed Bailey into the league when he clearly was not ready, and it has showed the past 2 plus seasons. Snow managed to finish in 30th place which is unacceptable while never getting an NHL quality goalie for the entire year so we had Denis and Mac.
Last season the Isles looked horrible and iced an AHL quality defense the entire season. The season was a mess, and the Isles looked awful. This year he managed to only bring in PAP on offense and brought in an offensive dman in Wiz, so he failed yet again to address the teams needs
The guy has accomplished zero its time to hold him accountable for the team we see today. Prospects look nice and he has stocked up some good looking ones but that is meaningless for this season, and finishing last every season should lead to a nice pool of prospects. Finally, he was the GM for the 15 year deal, if he had balls/was a good GM he steps in and tells Wang its a no go.
One or two of my facts may be wrong, but unfortunately Wang can not be fired so Snow is next in line.
1. Its his 5th season
2.the 08 draft wasnt just about bailey, and i agree that he shouldve stayed in juniors for an extra season but the 08 draft was all about depth, and its showing that the more prospects you draft the more likely that some of them will become nhl players, i still believe that bailey will develop into a very skilled third line 2 way center which will be ok
3. in his third season the team was just under .500 with very few holes that the isles needed to fill to become a playoff team and he addresed those needs in his 4th offseason signing jurcina, eaton, PaP, konopka, trading for wiz and claiming grabner
4. last season the isles lost striet for the whole season and okposo for half the season before the pre season even started and if you are going to say that this line up
moulson - tavares - PaP
grabner - nielsen - okposo
comeau - bailey - weight/joensuu/sim
martin - konopka - hunter
gillies
martinek - streit
macdonald - hamonic
wiz - jurcina
eaton/mottau
wouldn't make the playoffs if they stayed healthy idk what you are thinking
5. he wouldnt have kept the job if he wasnt willing to sign the DP deal, and how about the fact that every single season he has brought in other goalies that have all out played DP, such as mcdonald, danis, roli, biron, poulin, montoya, and nabokov doesn't he deserve credit for that?
Actually, I'm more curious about what moves Snow is going to make.
Although I'd like to see a change now, if what we've seen continues another 5 games, he will HAVE to make some type of move. He'll have absolutely no choice - otherwise, the team will play in front of 3 thousand attendees.
People need to take a step back. It is not Snows fault this team has been bad for almsot 20 years. I know no body feels like waiting any longer for a good team, but too bad. This wasn't going to be an over night thing. Not only was the big team void of talent, so was the whole system top to bottom. When Garth took over who were our top prospects? Robert Nillison? Ryan O'Marra? Chris Campoli? As far as depth within the orginization, the franchise is lightyears ahead. Prior to this season Hockey Prospectus ranked us 2nd behinf Detroit in the 2011 NHL Organizational Rankings. http://http://www.hockeyprospectus.c...articleid=1012
I believe that a huge part of this "rebuild" has yet to even hit NHL ice. I believe Garth has put alot in the baskets of Strome, Nino, and deHaan. Donavon has played well and I think Cizakas is going to be a player too. Would it be nice if Erhoff took a contract with the Ises? Yes, but he said no. It's not like he wanted to sign and Garth said he'd pass. Would it be awsome if Brooks Laich and Brad Richards came to the Island and fill out our squad with talented vets? Totally awsome, just wasn't gonna happen no matter who was GM.
Before I'm gonna fire Snow or Give up on the rebuild I need to atleast be able to complane about how Strome is too finess and won't go to the net, CDH is making to many neutral zone turnovers, Nino is too soft to be a power forward and Poulin can't stay healthy. Not saying that's gonna happen, god willing it won't. But that will have to happen before I want to turnover the franchise and create more choas in an enviornemnt just starving for stability. Stay the course.
