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03-22-2012, 11:32 AM
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That was before he emerged as the top player in the SEL.

We don't have 6 guys who have cemented themselves in the top 6.
I don't even know if we have 5 guys who can be looked at as locks in the top 6. Turris, Spezza, Alfredsson, Michalek, maybe Greening. There's definitely a spot open.

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03-22-2012, 11:38 AM
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That was before he emerged as the top player in the SEL.

We don't have 6 guys who have cemented themselves in the top 6.
Yupp, the Senators will have 2-3 "cemented" top 6 guys when camp opens next year.

The following players will be competing for a top-6 spot:
Silfverberg
Zibanejad
Stone (Sounds far-fetched, but Sens brass fully expect him to)
Greening
Regin (if he's around)
Petersson
Da Costa
Foligno
Turris

Anything can happen, but Silfverberg will definitely have a good chance of scoring a role on the top 2 lines. The team needs him to.

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03-22-2012, 11:56 AM
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I don't even know if we have 5 guys who can be looked at as locks in the top 6. Turris, Spezza, Alfredsson, Michalek, maybe Greening. There's definitely a spot open.
It's ideal if Greening isn't in the top 6...although it's not that bad a deal if he is among players who much more skilled than he is.

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03-22-2012, 01:08 PM
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Depends entirely in what role he's put in and what line he plays on. From what i understand Ottawa has him penciled in for the third line? At least that's the impression i've gotten from reading posts on this board. If that's the case then i think 40-50 is a bit far fetched.
probably top 6. He have two spots open so either Greening,Dacosta, Butler, Regin, Zibby or Silfverberg will fight for it and the other will probably be filled via UFA....

empty (hopefully ufa) - Spezza - Michalek
empty(Zibby/Regin/Silfver) - Turris - Alfie

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03-22-2012, 01:17 PM
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What can we expect from him for next year? Is a 40-50 point rookie year realistic?
I think, or at least beleive that he will be in the top 6 next season. We lack two top 6 LW's and since Silf is a LW I expect him to get a lot of time there over the course of the season.

Depnds too if he is able to clearly seperate himself from the rest of the guys that often play LW in our top 6. Foligno, Greening and sometimes Condra.

I think 30 points is very realistic and depending on other circumstances I think we could see 40.

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03-22-2012, 01:20 PM
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I don't even know if we have 5 guys who can be looked at as locks in the top 6. Turris, Spezza, Alfredsson, Michalek, maybe Greening. There's definitely a spot open.
I don't see Greening as a lock for the top 6 at all. He hasn't really established himself clearly from Foligno, Condra and Butler this year. Granted he's been the best of the bunch, but not by a whole lot.

Ideally we have Greening on our 3rd line next season.

I think we have two top 6 winger positions open right now. Both are LW depending if we move MM back to LW or not though.

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03-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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Im hoping for a Seguin esque three year process (even though hes on year two here is the point).

1. Get a feel for the league and the team. 30 points
2. Skill begins to set in. 40-45 points.
3. Reliable player, still prone to mistakes but lean on me kinda player. 50 +

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03-22-2012, 06:14 PM
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Im hoping for a Seguin esque three year process (even though hes on year two here is the point).

1. Get a feel for the league and the team. 30 points
2. Skill begins to set in. 40-45 points.
3. Reliable player, still prone to mistakes but lean on me kinda player. 50 +
i think you mean karlsson like progression

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03-22-2012, 07:19 PM
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Some Swedes think he can hit 50+

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I'm excited to see this guy play.
And for a Leafs fan to say that... it means something.

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03-23-2012, 06:30 AM
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I'm still mad over that his team eliminate Frölunda but he's good, great I would say and I hope he goes to NA next season.

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03-23-2012, 07:02 AM
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Honestly, it appears that a whole new generation of great Swedes are on the way.

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03-23-2012, 10:37 AM
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I'm excited to see this guy play.
And for a Leafs fan to say that... it means something.
Leaf fans like Zibanejad, some seem to more than many Sens fans do.

Leaf fans love Karlsson...who can blame em.

Now Leaf fans getting excited about Silfverberg.

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How does Calle Jarnkrok compare to Silfverberg, both play on the same team and are only one year apart

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How does Calle Jarnkrok compare to Silfverberg, both play on the same team and are only one year apart
Järnkrok i more of a play maker and has a weaker and more inacurate shot than Silfverberg. Although that might not tell you much because Silfverbergs shot is really on another planet. Silfverberg is good at reading the play, but is not really near Järnkroks level. Järnkrok posseses that mysterious thing called "hockey sense" and has loads of it to boot. Brynäs has the best power pay in the league and much of that runs through Järnkrok.

When Järnkrok is really on his game, some nights, he looks like the puppet master and the other team just has to dance at his will. That is imo what sets him apart from Silfverberg the most and wich leads me to believe his upside is higher. Their skating is on par although Järnkrok has better latteral movement and is better at sliping through holes in the other teams defense. He is however, weaker defensively than Silfverberg, and much of that can be attributed to his rather modest frame. He gets pushed arround a lot in the defensive zone but when he gets hold of the puck it often leads to a chance the other way. Silfverberg also posseses that game changing ability that Järnkrok does not, at least not to the same extent. Silfverberg also has very good leadership qualities that Järnkrok seems to lack.

Both are prone to dissapear at times in games but often recover well and are able to give Brynäs the W.

Hope that helps.

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04-04-2012, 01:18 AM
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Järnkrok i more of a play maker and has a weaker and more inacurate shot than Silfverberg. Although that might not tell you much because Silfvrbergs shot is really on another planet. Silfverberg is good at reading the play, but is not really near Järnkroks level. Järnkrok posseses that mysterious thing called "hockey sense" and has loads of it to boot. Brynäs has the best power pay in the league and much of that runs through Järnkrok.

When Järnkrok is really on his game, some nights, he looks like the puppet master and the other team just has to dance at his will. That is imo what sets him apart from Silfverberg the most and wich leads me to believe his upside is higher. Their skating is on par although Järnkrok has better latteral movement and is better at sliping through holes in the other teams defense. He is however, weaker defensively than Silfverberg, and much of that can be attributed to his rather modest frame. He gets pushed arround a lot in the defensive zone but when he gets hold of the puck it often leads to a chance the other way. Silfverberg also posseses that game changing ability that Järnkrok does not, at least not to the same extent. Silfverberg also has very good leadership qualities that Järnkrok seems to lack.

Both are prone to dissapear at times in games but often recover well and are able to give Brynäs the W.

Hope that helps.
Agree with everything except the last part bout Järnkrok not being a gamechanger. I think he is

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Agree with everything except the last part bout Järnkrok not being a gamechanger. I think he is
Oh he is. Last night is a good example. Järnkrok set up the play and then scored the goal that eventually gave Brynäs the win and let us advance through to the finals. He just does not have it to the same extent as Silfverberg. But that is just my personal opinion. Silfverberg just always seems to come through when Brynäs needs him the most.

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Im hoping for a Seguin esque three year process (even though hes on year two here is the point).

1. Get a feel for the league and the team. 30 points
2. Skill begins to set in. 40-45 points.
3. Reliable player, still prone to mistakes but lean on me kinda player. 50 +
I think with Silfverberg, the process will be much quicker, as his game is relatively developed versus an 18 year old Seguin. By his 2nd year in the league, I think we'll have a clear idea of what type of player he is going to be over his career. I think he'll be much better than Seguin as a rookie (part of that was the Bruins not giving Seguin too much ice time), but I also think his upside is obviously not as high.

I personally think he'll likely score 15-20 next year. If he doesn't play on our top 6 next year, it won't be for lack of opportunity to stick there.

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I'm still mad over that his team eliminate Frölunda but he's good, great I would say and I hope he goes to NA next season.
Is this käringön fc oscar by chance?

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Who are Jakob's linemates?

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Who are Jakob's linemates?
If I am not mistaken it's Järnkrok and the third is different from time to time, think it's Wännström right now. Johan Larsson too sometimes I guess.

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If I am not mistaken it's Järnkrok and the third is different from time to time, think it's Wännström right now. Johan Larsson too sometimes I guess.
Thank you sir.

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Wow I was watching a stream of Brynas and I came out very impressed with his place. I think he's in good hands with the system up there in Ottawa. Silfverberg, Karlsson, Zibanejad, and Lehner, WOW!

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If I am not mistaken it's Järnkrok and the third is different from time to time, think it's Wännström right now. Johan Larsson too sometimes I guess.
Yup. And earlier in the season and I believe at the start of the playoffs it was often Lavander as the third wheel.

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Guy is playing amazing in the playoffs , looks like hes on another level

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