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Jakob Silfverberg - SEL Champion and Playoffs MVP

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03-07-2012, 06:40 AM
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Hope he has a deep playoff run, it'll be his last in the SEL for a while..

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I've been really impressed with Silfverberg this year. He's been the best skater in the league and quite easily so IMO. Will be good to see what he will do at the WC
Just to clarify, you're not talking about his actual skating here. Or am I wrong?

Järnkrok's ceiling is higher, but Silfverberg is the way safer bet to have a long NHL career, I'd say.

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03-07-2012, 11:39 AM
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Just to clarify, you're not talking about his actual skating here. Or am I wrong?

Järnkrok's ceiling is higher, but Silfverberg is the way safer bet to have a long NHL career, I'd say.
Think he means non-goalie
Have to agree with Järnkrok having a higher ceiling aswell. I wouldn't be surprised if he is over a point per game next season.

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Think he means non-goalie
Have to agree with Järnkrok having a higher ceiling aswell. I wouldn't be surprised if he is over a point per game next season.
Curious to how you see Johan Larsson as a comparison to those other two guys. He has put up similar numbers to Ironhook, and is a year younger. Plus, he is a bit of tank from having watched him - he might thrive on the NA ice. Seems like a good leader as well, having captain the WJC gold medal team.

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Curious to how you see Johan Larsson as a comparison to those other two guys. He has put up similar numbers to Ironhook, and is a year younger. Plus, he is a bit of tank from having watched him - he might thrive on the NA ice. Seems like a good leader as well, having captain the WJC gold medal team.
You are right in what you say, but his skill is nowhere close to Järnkrok or even Silfverberg, I'd say. He's probably the most hard-working, intensive out of the three, though. Or not "probably", he is.

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well, you likely get to find out next year.
Järnkrok isn't going anywhere and I assume they'll make some offseason pickups to replace Silfver, so I doubt it'll be comparable.

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Larsson have indicated that he's leaving for Minnesota organisation.
Bad move for him imo. I think he should stay at least another year in the SEL, and become a dominant player here before he leaves.

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Bad move for him imo. I think he should stay at least another year in the SEL, and become a dominant player here before he leaves.
I think so too, he is most likely going to see a lot of time in the AHL next year.

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Linemate Calle Järnkrok on Jakob Silfverberg's NHL chances for next year: "I think he'll go in there and dominate."
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Silfverberg just won the league MVP award (Guldhjälmen) voted by the players of the SEL.

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03-14-2012, 06:36 AM
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Just to clarify, you're not talking about his actual skating here. Or am I wrong?

Järnkrok's ceiling is higher, but Silfverberg is the way safer bet to have a long NHL career, I'd say.
Not talking about skating ability As someone else said.. non-goalie

And I do agree with your second paragraph even though I think both will be quality NHLers for a long time

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03-14-2012, 10:05 AM
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Dude's gotta be a favorite for the calder next year especially with Ottawa huge need for a couple of top 6 scoring wingers on their top 2 lines.

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Dude's gotta be a favorite for the calder next year especially with Ottawa huge need for a couple of top 6 scoring wingers on their top 2 lines.
i am a sens fan and i dont think he is a favourite. When you got potentiall tarasenko, granlund, huberdeau, yakupov and others it is hard to say who the "Favourite" is

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Dude's gotta be a favorite for the calder next year especially with Ottawa huge need for a couple of top 6 scoring wingers on their top 2 lines.
But he´s up against Huberdeau, Granlund, Yakupov and maybe Grigorenko/Kuznetsov/Tarasenko.

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But he´s up against Huberdeau, Granlund, Yakupov and maybe Grigorenko/Kuznetsov/Tarasenko.
Nah, he can be as good as any of them.

Plus he will most likely play with a premier C like Spezza making the transition easier. None of the rest save maybe Kusnetsov has even a remote possibility of a line mate like that.

And EK feeding you the puck.

Plus he will be like 20/21 and ready to go. It is a can't miss.

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I'd just be happy with 35 to 45 points if he plays a full season. A lot of Sens fans expectations with this kid are ridiculous. Rundblad's hype should have taught us to be reserved with our expectations.

Yea they're different players but the lessons learned shouldn't be ignored.

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Nah, he can be as good as any of them.

Plus he will most likely play with a premier C like Spezza making the transition easier. None of the rest save maybe Kusnetsov has even a remote possibility of a line mate like that.

And EK feeding you the puck.

Plus he will be like 20 and ready to go. It is a can't miss.
Just like Runbland who was suppose to win the calder right?

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03-14-2012, 10:20 AM
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Rundblad was rushed and everyone including their 5 year old knew he needed more time in the A to learn how to play D.

Heck even EK got a 10 game stint there as a rookie but Rundblad was somehow a no go in the A.

Silverberg does not play such a demanding position like D or even C to break in the NHL.

Big difference.

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dude, come on. Yes Silfverberg might be very slightly better than Yakupov because he's 3 years older, but people will hold that against Silf. He would have to score more by a good margin to beat out a number one pick and potential superstar. It's just not going to happen unless Yakupov busts.

The other guys I could agree with having about equal chances to succeed, unless Kuznetsov plays with Backstrom. I also don't think Silf will be put into that top wing spot initially. I think he will probably see time in the AHL (probably a short stint) Unfortunately for Jakob, MacLean seems to like Greening and I bet barring any UFA signings that Greening is back on that first line. Jakob's spot eventually will be the second line LW and I could see him getting 40 points next year, but thats just not enough.

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dude, come on. Yes Silfverberg might be very slightly better than Yakupov because he's 3 years older, but people will hold that against Silf. He would have to score more by a good margin to beat out a number one pick and potential superstar. It's just not going to happen unless Yakupov busts.

The other guys I could agree with having about equal chances to succeed, unless Kuznetsov plays with Backstrom. I also don't think Silf will be put into that top wing spot initially. I think he will probably see time in the AHL (probably a short stint) Unfortunately for Jakob, MacLean seems to like Greening and I bet barring any UFA signings that Greening is back on that first line. Jakob's spot eventually will be the second line LW and I could see him getting 40 points next year, but thats just not enough.
If MacLeans loves Greening so much I doubt Butler would see a lot of time on that top line and Greening switching between lines 3 and 1.

Silveberg brings a lot more tools and skill set that Greening can't, especially the hockeysense top 6 forwards are expected to posses.

I agree Yakupov will be a hard to beat, even on his own. But we just don't know how good Silveberg is/can be especially with the potential to run with Spezza.

Ottawa's top 6 wingers are a joke IMO...only legit guys right now are 40 year old Alfie and Michalek who is healthy for the first time ever.

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dude, come on. Yes Silfverberg might be very slightly better than Yakupov because he's 3 years older, but people will hold that against Silf. He would have to score more by a good margin to beat out a number one pick and potential superstar. It's just not going to happen unless Yakupov busts.

The other guys I could agree with having about equal chances to succeed, unless Kuznetsov plays with Backstrom. I also don't think Silf will be put into that top wing spot initially. I think he will probably see time in the AHL (probably a short stint) Unfortunately for Jakob, MacLean seems to like Greening and I bet barring any UFA signings that Greening is back on that first line. Jakob's spot eventually will be the second line LW and I could see him getting 40 points next year, but thats just not enough.
The fact that we literally have nobody else to put on the first line with Spezza, and Maclean has still gone long stretches with other possible suitors tells us that he would prefer to have someone better equipped on that line then Greening.

I would be happy with 35-40 points from him

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I dunno and don't really care about the Calder right now, but man, is this kid ever looking exciting for Ottawa.

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I'd just be happy with 35 to 45 points if he plays a full season. A lot of Sens fans expectations with this kid are ridiculous. Rundblad's hype should have taught us to be reserved with our expectations.

Yea they're different players but the lessons learned shouldn't be ignored.
no it isnt a "lot of sens fans" it is the same fans who hype up our prospects like crazy and then defend them to no end in every thread. it just looks like a "lot"

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no it isnt a "lot of sens fans" it is the same fans who hype up our prospects like crazy and then defend them to no end in every thread. it just looks like a "lot"
Of the active posters on the Sens forum quite a few have sky high expectations for Silfverberg.

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I'd just be happy with 35 to 45 points if he plays a full season. A lot of Sens fans expectations with this kid are ridiculous.
I'd be happy if he manages to stay in the NHL for the season. The best thing we can do is to put up bunkbeds at Alfie's for Karlsson and Silfverberg. Let him learn from the best.

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