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11-10-2010, 10:48 PM
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I realize what you're saying. By good, I really mean better then other forms of violence. Let's face it, there's violence wherever you go. It's inevitable. So I'd rather live in a community of controlled violence, over random acts of violence all over the place, on innocent people.
Yeah, I agree with the last part. But the rest... I lived all my life in Montréal. There's not that much violence. Even Hochelaga-Maisonneuve/Centre-Sud was pretty calm when I lived there. Yes, there was poverty, prostitution and **** but never I felt scared to go play outside or whatever. It's not like this city is dangerous, far from it. It's pretty safe.


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I realize what you're saying. By good, I really mean better then other forms of violence. Let's face it, there's violence wherever you go. It's inevitable. So I'd rather live in a community of controlled violence, over random acts of violence all over the place, on innocent people.
You're hilarious. We live in the year 2010, in one of the best, and safest cities in the world. It's not West Africa we're talking about - there is no need to even entertain the idea of rampant criminality.

We have laws for a reason.

Nicolo Rizzuto was killed to send a message, the source is another dbag criminal, but the message is the same: even at 86 your past misdeeds don't wash off.

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11-10-2010, 10:50 PM
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Its not so black and white as you think. Ignorance is bliss, so believe what you want, but the Mafia is just as bad.
So it's ignorant to believe that an organization that won't come after me isn't as bad as a gang of morons running around with guns shooting at people, and if they run into me, I'm done for?

Yes, ignorance truly is bliss.

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11-10-2010, 10:52 PM
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So it's ignorant to believe that an organization that won't come after me isn't as bad as a gang of morons running around with guns shooting at people, and if they run into me, I'm done for?

Yes, ignorance truly is bliss.
So because it doesn't affect you it's not important? Yes, ignorance truly is bliss.

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11-10-2010, 10:53 PM
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I realize what you're saying. By good, I really mean better then other forms of violence. Let's face it, there's violence wherever you go. It's inevitable. So I'd rather live in a community of controlled violence, over random acts of violence all over the place, on innocent people.
Yep. Street gangs scare the **** outta me. So unpredictable, and commit unprovoked acts of violence.

Went to a ghetto strip joint with a few friends after a night of drinking one day, was having a smoke before going in, there was 4 haitians speaking creole, looking at us, laughing, saying "creole jibberish... bullet to da head... creole jibberish.."

Finished my smoke and got the **** outta there.

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I don't think you're getting his argument right... I'll speak for myself:

I know this city is better off with the mafia running it than any other criminal group. This said, I'm not defending what they are doing. It became a matter of "what hurts less" instead of "what's good" and this is the part that frustrates me. Why can't we change this?? There's more good people in this world... Why can't we just take over this city (or world...) and make it a peaceful and non-violent place. Keep dreaming, they say. Well yes, but with big dreams come big realisations.
We're partly responsible for this. Whenever someone calls for an escort, smoke weed, do an extacy (or whatever is in atm), well this person is bringing them profits. And when profits are huge (and they are), people will use whatever they think is necessary to keep making those profits.

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So because it doesn't affect you it's not important? Yes, ignorance truly is bliss.
This!! Although the mafia does not kill innocent people the way gangs do... it doesn't matter! MAFIA KILL MAFIA. Gangs don't do it. Nothing changes even though this guy was shot. Stop freaking out

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So because it doesn't affect you it's not important? Yes, ignorance truly is bliss.
What the hell?

A random act of violence can kill ANYONE. Controlled violence deals with people that mess with the mob (i.e. other mobs, gangs, criminals, petty thiefs).

So if it's ignorant to believe that innocent people feeling safe over people being shot in a random act of violence, then I'll change my name right now to IgnorantSkorpion.

Holy hell, that's it for me. I think I've had just about enough with this thread.

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Nicolo Rizzuto was killed to send a message, the source is another dbag criminal, but the message is the same: even at 86 your past misdeeds don't wash off.
Geez. 86. At that age, i mean, EIGHTY SIX, what could this guy really enjoy anymore? His killer likely saved him from chronic arthritis and osteoporosis.

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11-10-2010, 10:57 PM
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What the hell?

A random act of violence can kill ANYONE. Controlled violence deals with people that mess with the mob (i.e. other mobs, gangs, criminals, petty thiefs).

So if it's ignorant to believe that innocent people feeling safe over people being shot in a random act of violence, then I'll change my name right now to IgnorantSkorpion.

Holy hell, that's it for me. I think I've had just about enough with this thread.
Yes, Mafia have never in history killed an innocent person. I am glad you have so much insight on the topic. Why couldn't I see before that everything is so black and white?!

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11-10-2010, 10:58 PM
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This!! Although the mafia does not kill innocent people the way gangs do... it doesn't matter! MAFIA KILL MAFIA. Gangs don't do it. Nothing changes even though this guy was shot. Stop freaking out

when you're part of this "innocent people" group, it does matter.

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11-10-2010, 10:59 PM
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What the hell?

A random act of violence can kill ANYONE. Controlled violence deals with people that mess with the mob (i.e. other mobs, gangs, criminals, petty thiefs).

So if it's ignorant to believe that innocent people feeling safe over people being shot in a random act of violence, then I'll change my name right now to IgnorantSkorpion.

Holy hell, that's it for me. I think I've had just about enough with this thread.
There's always an innocent bystander. **** happens where **** blows up and your family member could be walking down the street and caught in the middle. While unlikely, to say you'll just walk by and leave untouched is wishful thinking. Life isn't that simple where you can avoid what doesn't apply to you. Karma doesn't exist in the way ppl imagine.

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when you're part of this "innocent people" group, it does matter.
Hallelujah.

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Right...And I guess if an idiot kills someone close to you then you have the right to kill him too?..

Who do you think killed him exactly???...An innocent bystander or cop??..The guys that ordered Rizzuto dead aren't any better than him. It's a cycle. Organized crime will never disappear.

Killings don't solve anything, no matter the context. All of this is retarded.
I'll go with your analogy and take it back to the context of this thread.
Someone kills someone close to me (let's assume the killing was planned and was not an accident) , and then he in turn is killed by someone (not me).

My reaction: Good, he got what he deserved. Do you expect me to shed a tear for him?

What you are basically saying is that saying "good" when someone who you feel has not lead such an up and up life equates to vigilantism. It does not.

People are so uppity about death. Everyone is so afraid to speak ill of the dead. When I go, I hope all the people I was a dick to when I was alive get together and share stories and go "Man, was that guy ever an *******"

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Geez. 86. At that age, i mean, EIGHTY SIX, what could this guy really enjoy anymore? His killer likely saved him from chronic arthritis and osteoporosis.
Closed casket funeral and a one-way ticket to hell

Skorpion, I think you have a foul idea of society and laws. They do exist and in no way shape or form will anybody in society allow for the wanton slaughter of random people - never. If one or two people die, the police will crack heads - hard.

Rizzuto dying doesn't change anything at all, it's probably mob-on-mob.

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Yes, Mafia have never in history killed an innocent person. I am glad you have so much insight on the topic. Why couldn't I see before that everything is so black and white?!
I understand his point, but its not that simple. I say he's being ignorant because the mob does kill people who don't deserve it. Clearly street gangs are worse. But some people were initially worried about gangs taking over... its not gonna happen. The mafia boss was killed by other mafia bosses... thats how it works. The relationship between gangs and the mob is basically gangs are the mobs ***** and get paid for it here and there. There is not struggle for power because everyone makes money.

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We're partly responsible for this. Whenever someone calls for an escort, smoke weed, do an extacy (or whatever is in atm), well this person is bringing them profits. And when profits are huge (and they are), people will use whatever they think is necessary to keep making those profits.
This is the sad part.

I believe in marijuana legalization (hope this wont get me any infraction!?) and legal prostitution (I mean, being a porn actor IS prostitution, in a way... no??).

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it's okay. there's no infraction for being blind

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This thread needs to be open. This is an awesome exchange of ideas and opinions.

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A punk gets his.

There can be NOTHING positive to say about a crook like this guy. At least from a general public perspective. Of course his family and friends no doubt see it differently, but to the rest of the public, he was a scourge on society - a leech and had no regard or respect for his community, province or country.

Good riddance.

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It seems that Montreal is a Hobbesian state
If I see this concept one more time my head is going to explode.

Great comparison, though.

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Mafia/Mob/Criminal Enterprises generally target their own and stay restricted to a certain group of people.

Street gangs target anyone and everyone they can to get a quick buck. They terrorize everyone, from within and from out too.

IMO the street gangs are a bigger problem. Mafia members never bothered me. I've had to deal with gang members, real and fake, more than I'd like.

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rip nicola. this smells like revenge from the calabrese over the sicilians.

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