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11-11-2010, 09:47 AM
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Skinner for any combination of the below

Hemsky + Penner

Penner + Paajarvi + Cash, and lots of it

and any other combination you may be able to think of that dosen't include the only 2 untouchables

Eberle
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11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
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You can't trade Cash and Edmonton would be idiots to overpay for a guy on a hot streak (though he is very talented).

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11-11-2010, 10:02 AM
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he would play insanly bad here because he wouldn't have someone as talanted as stall to help him...as for the deals no thanks you dont trade 2 top 6 fwds for a talanted guy 1 month into his nhl career

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I don't think Carolina lets Skinner go at this point for anything but gross overpayment. Aside from being talented, he's very quickly becoming a marketing bonanza for the team so I don't think they would move him based on a "hockey deal", even if it was even.

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he would play insanly bad here because he wouldn't have someone as talanted as stall to help him...as for the deals no thanks you dont trade 2 top 6 fwds for a talanted guy 1 month into his nhl career
1. It's Staal. Not Stall. Stall is a verb, the act of impeding progress. Staal is the star hockey player. Say it with me. S-t-a-a-l.

2. Skinner plays on the second line with Cole and Ruutu, and only plays with Staal on the PP.

3. You're not getting Skinner... so, yea.

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11-11-2010, 10:18 AM
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Skinner for any combination of the below

Hemsky + Penner

Penner + Paajarvi + Cash, and lots of it

and any other combination you may be able to think of that dosen't include the only 2 untouchables

Eberle
Hall

Absolutely no from Edmonton's perspective.

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11-11-2010, 10:35 AM
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Managed to make deals that both fanbases don't like

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11-11-2010, 10:43 AM
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the oilers fanbase would be stupid not to have this kid in their system

Hall Gagner Eberle
Paajarvi Hopkins Skinner

who cares about the bottom 6.......... I'd trade hemsky and Penner in a HEART BEAT, Skinner's the real deal, and if anyone disagrees, go watch all the games he's played so far, this isn't a hot streak, a hot streak is 5 games, not every game. the kid is talented

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11-11-2010, 10:45 AM
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Absolutely no from Edmonton's perspective.
You're getting JEFF SKINNER back.

Carolina is the one who says "absolutely not".

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lol...Dustin Penner, c'mon...

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I love Skinner and all, but he is getting a bit too much love on these boards. The guy has a hot streak going, just like how Eberle had 8 points in 9 games, but with the hot streaks come the cold ones. It happens to a lot of rookies not named Malkin, Ovechkin, or Crosby. An obvious "no" from an Oil perspective.

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I love Skinner and all, but he is getting a bit too much love on these boards. The guy has a hot streak going, just like how Eberle had 8 points in 9 games, but with the hot streaks come the cold ones. It happens to a lot of rookies not named Malkin, Ovechkin, or Crosby. An obvious "no" from an Oil perspective.
LOL, so you mean you value your young players just as much as we do Skinner? You don't say!

An obvious "no" from a Canes perspective.

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11-11-2010, 11:24 AM
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all i'm saying is that skinner is the real deal, and i know it would take a huge over payment to get him from CAR, and I would be willing to make that huge over payment.

Got to make some gambles as a GM, and that is one I would make in a heart beat, whatever the price CAR said for skinner, and I would pay it (minus Eberle or Hall)

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11-11-2010, 11:27 AM
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Hell no from Edmonton.

Like really, Penner+Hemsky for a 18 year old whos having a good rookie season? No way

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11-11-2010, 11:29 AM
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Hell no from Edmonton.

Like really, Penner+Hemsky for a 18 year old whos having a good rookie season? No way
Don't worry, we wouldn't do it either.

Would you do Jokinen+Ruutu for Hall or Eberle? No? Ok, that's how we feel too.

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11-11-2010, 11:33 AM
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Would you do Jokinen+Ruutu for Hall or Eberle? No? Ok, that's how we feel too.
Your saying Jokinen + Ruutu = Penner + Hemsky?
What?

Anyway, neither team does this proposal. Who the hell is going to trade an 18 year old who's having the season he's having? Does their GM want to get fired?

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Don't worry, we wouldn't do it either.

Would you do Jokinen+Ruutu for Hall or Eberle? No? Ok, that's how we feel too.
Jokinen+Ruutu = Penner+Hemsky?

Anyway, i can see why the Hurricanes wouldn't make the deal. I don't think that this is just a hot streak with Skinner, he's the real deal based on what i've seen of him so i can understand why you guys wouldn't make the trade for nothing short of a vast overpayment.

Edit: It seems that Oilbleeder and I are sharing a brain.

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11-11-2010, 11:37 AM
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Your saying Jokinen + Ruutu = Penner + Hemsky?
What?

Anyway, neither team does this proposal. Who the hell is going to trade an 18 year old who's having the season he's having? Does their GM want to get fired?
Jokinen = Penner
Hemsky > Ruutu but Ruutu brings an element to his game that Hemsky doesn't have

I know Oiler fans think it's not even close but value/production wise it's pretty similar even though no one will ever convince you otherwise considering how much you overvalue your players.

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Jokinen = Penner
Hemsky > Ruutu but Ruutu brings an element to his game that Hemsky doesn't have

I know Oiler fans think it's not even close but value/production wise it's pretty similar even though no one will ever convince you otherwise considering how much you overvalue your players.
Your right. Neither team would touch this deal. You dont trade to established first liners for a 18 year old, and you dont trade a 18 year old whos having this season.

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Hemsky + Penner is not that bad IMO but Paajarvi+Penner+ is laughable, I'd probably not even do Paajarvi for Skinner straight up

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Your right. Neither team would touch this deal. You dont trade to established first liners for a 18 year old, and you dont trade a 18 year old whos having this season.
Agreed.

I know Hemsky + Penner > Jokinen + Ruutu, but the value gap isn't huge which is why I used it as example as to why we wouldn't trade Skinner for such a package. Even though both pairs of these players are good, proven NHLers, you still don't trade your young potential franchise players for them which was the point I was trying to get at.

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the oilers fanbase would be stupid not to have this kid in their system

Hall Gagner Eberle
Paajarvi Hopkins Skinner

who cares about the bottom 6.......... I'd trade hemsky and Penner in a HEART BEAT, Skinner's the real deal, and if anyone disagrees, go watch all the games he's played so far, this isn't a hot streak, a hot streak is 5 games, not every game. the kid is talented
Bad proposal for both organizations + penciling in a undrafted top 3 prospect into the second line = MASSIVE THREAD FAIL

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Bad proposal for both organizations + penciling in a undrafted top 3 prospect into the second line = MASSIVE THREAD FAIL
just stating that Hopkins, if drafted, would make a killer C with that lineup for top 6... your comment = massive self esteem issues

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just stating that Hopkins, if drafted, would make a killer C with that lineup for top 6... your comment = massive self esteem issues
Sure, my killer line would be

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Play NHL 09 some more, the only question is where did you pull this one out of?

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