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11-11-2010, 01:53 PM
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we have a good amount of depth at forward right now (for once) and it's going to be hard to fit everyone into the equation. i understand you want depth because injuries are a huge part of hockey, but we are definitely deep enough to package for upgrades at either #1 D, a better forward, or a #1 C (even if brassard stays how he is playing you can never have enough quality centers).


who would you like to see the team go after? who could actually be available and worth targeting?



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we have a good amount of depth at forward right now (for once) and it's going to be hard to fit everyone into the equation. i understand you want depth because injuries are a huge part of hockey, but we are definitely deep enough to package for upgrades at either #1 D, a better forward, or a #1 C (even if brassard stays how he is playing you can never have enough quality centers).


who would you like to see the team go after? who could actually be available and worth targeting?


The only thing that needs to be done at the moment, in my view, is to dump Commodore's contract. He is our worst defender imo at the moment and makes the most money. That way his money can be used to resign Voracek and leaves us with the ability to resign other RFAs and any UFAs we want to keep next year.

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i think most all of us would love to see commodore gone

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The only thing that needs to be done at the moment, in my view, is to dump Commodore's contract. He is our worst defender imo at the moment and makes the most money. That way his money can be used to resign Voracek and leaves us with the ability to resign other RFAs and any UFAs we want to keep next year.
yeah he's been awful on IR and all

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yeah he's been awful on IR and all
I'm with you, Fro, we're not so good that we can just toss away a veteran defenseman like Commie without even seeing how he'll fit into the lineup. If he's not working in practice or if he fails when he gets some game time, then think about getting rid of him. Until then, let things settle down and wait for the inevitable injuries that will challenge our depth of NHL-quality defensemen.

Besides, what does anyone think a player with no significant ice time, this year, and a relatively large contract would bring in trade? This organization is not in a position to discard assets without adequate compensation in return.

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less about commodore, more about who you would like to see the jackets go after to further improve this team.

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Besides, what does anyone think a player with no significant ice time, this year, and a relatively large contract would bring in trade?
About the same as a player with a checkered history on a relatively large contract who has been injured and plays poorly after he's inserted in the lineup.

Commie's not getting traded.

The blueline would seem to be the most likely place to make a deal. I have no idea who's available or what might be offered. I know Juice and Moreau are roster players who might cause a logjam if they return (Juice not getting better is a concern), but the real depth at forward is in your Murray's, your Boll's, etc. and I don't see any of that being moved.

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less about commodore, more about who you would like to see the jackets go after to further improve this team.
OK, in that case, this team still needs a top-quality defenseman who can skate, hit, and unload a rocket from the point. Sadly, or not, I think we're going to have to grow our own, and that ain't happening overnight.

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I'm greedy, I want Malkin.

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OK, in that case, this team still needs a top-quality defenseman who can skate, hit, and unload a rocket from the point. Sadly, or not, I think we're going to have to grow our own, and that ain't happening overnight.
We have a number of candidates percolating in Springfield.

Besides that, nobody is going to trade a legitimate top defense man for any number of depth players. And I don't believe we are in a position to trade any of our top flight talent.

Build from within. And we can actually see it is possible, and that it is exactly what is happening.

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We have a number of candidates percolating in Springfield.

Besides that, nobody is going to trade a legitimate top defense man for any number of depth players. And I don't believe we are in a position to trade any of our top flight talent.

Build from within. And we can actually see it is possible, and that it is exactly what is happening.
i don't know that i completely agree. there are plenty of teams who will be willing to part with players for depth/prospect/picks (especially as the season progresses).

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I'm greedy, I want Malkin.
i wonder what exactly it would take from us to land malkin.. i don't know that we want to know.

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i don't know that i completely agree. there are plenty of teams who will be willing to part with players for depth/prospect/picks (especially as the season progresses).

Part with players, yes. But a #1 or #2 defenseman, considering how few and far between they really are, I just don't think any number of depth players/prospects/picks is going to bring that kind of return.

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Well...

Admittedly I don't know much about the real world of hockey dealings, but I'd say coming out of the trade deadline a guy like Kaberle, who does not figure into Brian Burke's long range plans could work out very nicely for us for little cost..

I would prefer that they go get a Phaneuf, or someone with more of a scoring touch on the blue line. You have to admit that another guy (other than Stralman) firing it in from the right blue line would probably work wonders. Shea Weber is the kind of guy that could make an imediate 105 mile an hour impact

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You are slowly seeing the defenseman you covet in Marc Methot. Hang in there and he will be your man by the end of this season

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Admittedly I don't know much about the real world of hockey dealings, but I'd say coming out of the trade deadline a guy like Kaberle, who does not figure into Brian Burke's long range plans could work out very nicely for us for little cost..

I would prefer that they go get a Phaneuf, or someone with more of a scoring touch on the blue line. You have to admit that another guy (other than Stralman) firing it in from the right blue line would probably work wonders. Shea Weber is the kind of guy that could make an imediate 105 mile an hour impact
I'm not sure which is less likely, Weber or Malkin.

Though between the two, I'd probably take Weber. Call me crazy.

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You are slowly seeing the defenseman you covet in Marc Methot. Hang in there and he will be your man by the end of this season
I'm not convinced, yet, that he can reach those heights, but I sure hope you're right!

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Honestly I love the way the team is competing each night, I'd still obviously love to upgrade the defense but not at the expense of one of our forwards. I think the team should stand pat, but always be looking to upgrade defense with a better puck-mover, by maybe trying to get rid of Tyutin, Klesla, or Russell.

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You are slowly seeing the defenseman you covet in Marc Methot. Hang in there and he will be your man by the end of this season
Don't think Methot has quite that high of a ceiling. I love the way he's playing, but I don't see that type of player in him. I hope he proves me wrong.

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You are slowly seeing the defenseman you covet in Marc Methot. Hang in there and he will be your man by the end of this season


Should be out of the oven sometime in 2023.

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Let's just put it this way, of the 24 goals scored by defensemen in the central division Hejda has our lone goal. We are last in the division in points by dmen.

I'll be interesting to see if Klesla and Methot can keep up those double digit +/-'s they are sporting.

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I'm not sure which is less likely, Weber or Malkin.

Though between the two, I'd probably take Weber. Call me crazy.
Bugg, you're right you are crazy, but I tend to agree. My ultimate dream scenario would be the Jackets acquiring Ryan Getzlaf for our next two drafts. Can you picture the skill and grit of Getzlaf pushing up the ice with Nash on the wing. Gino is the supreme talent, but Getzlaf brings the fire and willingness to steamroll you.

so imo Getzlaf, Weber, Malkin and consideration for Eric Stahl too.

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Bugg, you're right you are crazy, but I tend to agree. My ultimate dream scenario would be the Jackets acquiring Ryan Getzlaf for our next two drafts. Can you picture the skill and grit of Getzlaf pushing up the ice with Nash on the wing. Gino is the supreme talent, but Getzlaf brings the fire and willingness to steamroll you.

so imo Getzlaf, Weber, Malkin and consideration for Eric Stahl too.
These kinds of wish posts remind me of the people that must've sat around a board room at Warner Brothers planning Batman movies in the 90s.

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There was a rumour/thread started a couple of weeks ago claiming that the Ducks GM would rather trade one of Ryan or Perry, rather then firing the coach. If that is the case, I would love to get one of those two players. It'll cost us alot but depending on the pieces, I would most likely pull the trigger. I would prefer Perry over Ryan. Perry is a ****** but if he is the type of player that you hate to play against but love to have as your teammate.

As for defense, not sure who is available. Any interest in Ryan Whitney? Might not cost us a arm and a leg but may not be a significant upgrade on what we have.

Only problem is they all make alot of money.

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I am going to say that most likely upgrade would be upgrading Huselius for a better winger. I think getting a legit PMD is neigh impossible right now.

What we need is a Brent Burns. What are the chances of that? Nil.

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