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06-15-2004, 01:21 PM
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younggunshockey final ranking

In my opinion its the best ranking Ive seen yet, more complete and well rounded then RLR and THN...

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Can you provide a link to those rankings

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Final TOP 15

1 Alexander Ovechkin</FONT></FONT>
2 Evgeni Malkin
3 Alvaro Montoya</FONT>
4 Alexander Radulov</FONT>
5 Lauri Tukonen</FONT>
6 Andrew Ladd</FONT>
7 Drew Stafford</FONT>
8 Cam Barker
9 Alexandre Picard</FONT>
10 Rostislav Olesz
11 Robbie Schremp
12 Andrew Ladd</FONT>
13 A.J. Thelen
14 Cory Schneider
15 Lauri Korpikoski</FONT>

Hello controversy..


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I wouldn't rank Montoya that high ...

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I would rank Olesz 5 spots higher or so.

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Damn that Andrew Ladd is good, he made the list twice!!

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There are going to be a bevy of "steals" this year, w/7-50 so equally regarded.

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Damn that Andrew Ladd is good, he made the list twice!!
:lol I first thought it was a mistake by BlueandWhite, but no, it's on their website...

Let's see how long it takes before they change it.

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What a joke. Stafford ahead of Olesz and Barker?? Ladd listed twice? Those guys need to get their act together if they want to be taken seriously.

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I wouldn't rank Montoya that high ...
Montoya is highly regarded

You can make a case for Al being the 4th best player in the draft behind the 2 Russians and Cam Barker

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06-15-2004, 02:34 PM
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:lol I first thought it was a mistake by BlueandWhite, but no, it's on their website...

Let's see how long it takes before they change it.

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Lay off

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Lay off

I know one of the guys who runs it
There is no doubt it is a small fan site that is trying to be legitimate. Hopefully they get their act together because that is where you build credibility. Having a duplicate in the top 15 with "controversial" rankings isn't a good way to start.

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I wouldn't rank Montoya that high ...
I would imagine that there's at least a couple teams out there that have him in their top 5.

Doesn't look like there's much consensus outside of the top two picks. Us fans would be shocked if we saw the disparity between the real lists of the NHL teams...

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Just for accuracy sake, they have Schneider ranked #14 in thier in-depth coverage...The "double" Ladd in the bottom right top 15 list was just an error which I'm sure they will correct real soon......That error aside, I like their "controversial" rankings even if I don't agree with all of them...They just see more positives in a few players that others don't and, who knows, they may be right..

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There are going to be a bevy of "steals" this year, w/7-50 so equally regarded.
One could read it that way . . . or if one were of the 'glass half empty' persuassion those picking from 7 on are going to end up with a second round calibre pick.

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Getting offensive, are we?

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There are going to be a bevy of "steals" this year, w/7-50 so equally regarded.
Disagree. To me it looks like there's a dropoff in the 20-25 range.

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I really like Schneider, but considering Schwarz isn't even on the top 15 I don't know what those people at YGH.com are doing. Let's see what happens when the Ladd error gets fixed, do you think he'll keep the 6 or 12 ranking? Does that move everyone up a slot and a new guy at 15 or is there someone missing that was supposed to be inserted into either 6 or 12 a la Schwarz?

Even if the rankings weren't insane and the Ladd error hadn't been made, the writing on the website is awful. It is, written like this, with way too many, commas. Oh well, i'd rather spend $0 on this than whatevr RLR charges!

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I really like Schneider, but considering Schwarz isn't even on the top 15 I don't know what those people at YGH.com are doing. Let's see what happens when the Ladd error gets fixed, do you think he'll keep the 6 or 12 ranking? Does that move everyone up a slot and a new guy at 15 or is there someone missing that was supposed to be inserted into either 6 or 12 a la Schwarz?

Even if the rankings weren't insane and the Ladd error hadn't been made, the writing on the website is awful. It is, written like this, with way too many, commas. Oh well, i'd rather spend $0 on this than whatevr RLR charges!
Ooops, my bad! I made things worse for them...They have Schwarz at 12 with Ladd at 6.....ANd Schneider at 14

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Those guys need to get their act together if they want to be taken seriously.
After their rankings last year, I don't know if I can ever do that...

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After their rankings last year, I don't know if I can ever do that...

Do you remember or have a link of those rankings?

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Do you remember or have a link of those rankings?
http://younggunshockey.com/about.htm

Notable oddities?

Phaneuf at 15?
Stehlik at 16?
Carter at 31?
Kastsitsyn at 41?
Seabrook at 54?
Belle at 76?
Eriksson at 82?

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http://younggunshockey.com/about.htm

Notable oddities?

Phaneuf at 15?
Stehlik at 16?
Carter at 31?
Kastsitsyn at 41?
Seabrook at 54?
Belle at 76?
Eriksson at 82?
Painful. There's more where that came from too.

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Damn that Andrew Ladd is good, he made the list twice!!
First off, I guess we should be happy that someone actually started a thread about us. That said, I'll answer some of the points people brought up in the next few posts.

Ladd X 2: This was a mistake. Every slot from 1-15 was supposed to be Ladd. But seriously, here's what happened. We sent our web designer the new 1-15 order last night, along with all the new revised profiles. He updated them overnight and looked like he did a great job. Until we got to #12 on our chart He scewed up. Nothing more, nothing less. Our company is based in NY and our web designer is based in the UK. He's a friend of a friend who said he could help us out, without charging an arm and a leg. He does good work but isn't perfect and when something goes wrong we can't just open up our computer and fix it. We have to wait for him to do it. He told me it would be fixed by tomorrow. My fingers are crossed. Something similar happened once before and although it's embarassing, I think the quality of work stands for itself. What can ya do?

Someone already pointed this out earlier but in our draft guide there was no such mistake. Marek Schwarz is number 12.

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What a joke. Stafford ahead of Olesz and Barker??
If you've got a crystal ball that shows who'll have a better NHL career then you should rent it out to NHL teams. The fact is we won't know which players have better careers until it happens. We still have Barker as the top-ranked D-man in the draft so his being #8 shouldn't be seen as some kind of knock on him. Nor should anyone look at our rankings as a mock draft. We're sure Barker will go either at #3 or #4. We just think the players we have ranked ahead of him will be better. Just our opinion. Part of the problem with draft rankings is that there's so few resources. All you seem to get are a lot of the same re-hashed opinions when the fact is if you looked at the draft boards for all of the NHL teams, I think you'd be shocked at just how different the rankings are. I would be willing to bet that there probably aren't 2 teams that have the same players ranked in the same order 1-15.

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