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Very interesting read. Colin Campbell thinks Marc Savard is a "little fake artist".

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11-15-2010, 12:32 AM
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Very interesting read. Colin Campbell thinks Marc Savard is a "little fake artist".

http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3518

Read the article. A very interesting read.

If it is down:
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onlrb/do...nlii58123.html

#124 in particular.


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I wonder what will happen in the NHL offices this week :p lol

seriously disgusted though

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My head kind of hurts after trying to make much of that out, but now that I understand it it's pretty damning of Campbell and the integrity of the true objectivity of officials. I think Greg Campbell is a good bet to win a Lady Byng sometime in the future as long as Colin is in the position he's in (a stretch, but wouldn't surprise me).

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I'm very curious to see how much the media jumps on this. It's going to be TSN and HNIC that decide how big of a story this is.

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Mad props to Tyler Dellow on this one, I don't normally read his blog, but this was good. Colin Campbell is an idiot.

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We've always known that Colin Campbell doesn't have two brain cells to rub together, it's nice to actually have concrete proof of that.

I mean, hell, I knew enough not to put anything incriminating in email messages ten years ago. Apparently Campbell didn't get the memo.

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Nice find by Dellow, Campbell seems even more irrational than I thought he was.

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Were these exchanges edited to make both of them appear to be illiterate?

Is it sad that that's what makes me angry?

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I mentioned the Savard thing on Twitter and @Texas_Gal, a Boston lawyer (I think Twitter is made up entirely of journalists, bloggers and lawyers) points out that Matt Cooke wasn’t suspended for concussing Marc Savard last year. Did Campbell’s apparent loathing of Savard play into it?
THIS is what angers me the most. It really looks like Campbell didn't discipline Cooke because he happened to potentially end the career of a player Campbell held a personal vendetta against.

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One can only hope that someone in the MSM's testicles drop in time for them to find the courage to put the screws to the league on this one.

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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.

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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.
too late. the 'virus' has been unleashed.

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11-15-2010, 07:26 AM
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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.

Yeah, IMO it sets up an interesting discussion. That newer technologies continue to result in more documentation that could easily be a person's undoing.

In effect we are all "wiretapped" drones now and stuff that used to go on in an unrecorded ph call is now happening through emails and twitter and other means.

Merry Christmas, 1984 arrived in spades a little late. Dressed up as beneficial advances in technology that turn out to be anything but benevolent and that conspire to increase national securities while undermining the individual. Whoever that may be. Whatever region or nation that person resides in..

Stupid to email stuff like that, but a lot of people are setting off their own paper evidence trails with everything from interac to cellphones, email, to where they go and what they say on the internet, here, anywhere, etc.

Not calling out anybody with this, and it must be an interesting debate in the legal community, but the apparent civil (should I even call it rights) infringement thats gone on through technology within the last couple decades is very disturbing.

Which should be of grievous concern within the legal community.

Although I would imagine that is parsed by the devolution of individual privation and what is deemed as admissible evidence within the legal community that potentially impacts us all retroactively..

Still, the futureshock infringement that goes on through technology has to be re-evaluated and challenged.
Keeping in mind that older citizens much less used to newer technology would in most instances be less presciently aware of its user liabilities. Even with 10 page waiver disclaimers written in smallest font, on parse nobody can understand, that people just "accept" by engaging use.

Unknowingly.


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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.


Yes, and those Watergate reporters broke some kind of gentlemen's agreement in talking to an undercover source, I'm sure.

Really, a blog! Goodness!

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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.
The link is dead. Big brother got 'em. Now I'm just curious. Curious word.

EDIT: Link is back up... interesting.


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The link is dead. Big brother got 'em. Now I'm just curious. Curious word.
Link's dead for me too... any chance anyone can provide the gist of exactly was in the email?

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Link's dead for me too... any chance anyone can provide the gist of exactly was in the email?
Try the link now. It's up...

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Link is down for me...

Edit: Got it now

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Bruin fans should eat this one up.

I knew Campbell was an asshat but it's good to have evidence to back that up.

Oh and we need to trade for Gregory Campbell. Maybe we'll start getting some calls.

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Whole lot of conjecture here. I guess it is supposed to be part of the public record because it is a court case, but there is something not right about reading personal emails imo.

And really, not only reading them, but posting them on a blog.
They're not personal emails when it's involving work and a work email address.

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They're not personal emails when it's involving work and a work email address.
What difference does it make?

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What difference does it make?
Because it's different in a lot of ways. Just like using a work phone for personal calls and texts and then complaining when they remotely wipe it.

Remember when Palin got her yahoo email account broken into and rumors of her using it for work related things? It's a big no-no.

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Because it's different in a lot of ways. Just like using a work phone for personal calls and texts and then complaining when they remotely wipe it.

Remember when Palin got her yahoo email account broken into and rumors of her using it for work related things? It's a big no-no.
Im not making the connection. Its personal communication between two parties. Work related or personal has nothing to do wth it. The two parties involved most assuredly never intended for the contents of their communication to be made public, rightly or wrongly on their part.

Would you like the contents of your emails made the subject of a blog on the internet? The whole idea gives me shivers. It seems like a slimy rat ******* thing to do imo.

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Im not making the connection. Its personal communication between two parties. Work related or personal has nothing to do wth it. The two parties involved most assuredly never intended for the contents of their communication to be made public, rightly or wrongly on their part.

Would you like the contents of your emails made the subject of a blog on the internet? The whole idea gives me shivers. It seems like a slimy rat ******* thing to do imo.
Work related communications aren't your property. They are the property of your employer and can be retained/viewed by your employer for many reasons including for legal purposes, as these ones were.

There is nothing slimy about pulling publically available data from court records. That info is meant to be public.

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Im not making the connection. Its personal communication between two parties. Work related or personal has nothing to do wth it. The two parties involved most assuredly never intended for the contents of their communication to be made public, rightly or wrongly on their part.

Would you like the contents of your emails made the subject of a blog on the internet? The whole idea gives me shivers. It seems like a slimy rat ******* thing to do imo.
The difference is that the individual owns the personal email account, or at least the contents of it but work emails are owned by your employer, meaning they have ownership of and access to any employee emails they want. Most employers take the time to educate their employees/warn them about this.

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