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11-13-2010, 07:28 PM
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Markov's PP ice time is unacceptable.

Every powerplay, Markov goes to the bench near the 1 minute mark and is replaced by Hamrlik. This happens EVEN when the Habs are trailing by one late in the 3rd. Markov is currently 42nd in powerplay ice-time per game among defensemen. This is unacceptable and, honestly, quite absurd.

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11-13-2010, 07:29 PM
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He is recovering from a serious injury.

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what is unacceptable is that markov is if he does not play in the 2 min pp

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He is recovering from a serious injury.
No, he recovered already.

Last year he was 30th in the league. The year before that with Carbo he was 5th. Martin is just being ********.

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11-13-2010, 07:51 PM
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No, he recovered already.

Last year he was 30th in the league. The year before that with Carbo he was 5th. Martin is just being ********.
why make play 2 full minutes?
i find that really stupid.
with this you just open the door for an easy breakaway

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No, he recovered already.

Last year he was 30th in the league. The year before that with Carbo he was 5th. Martin is just being ********.
PP ice time per game is a meaningless stat as it depends too much on power play opportunities a team has.

Habs are in the bottom 5 teams for PP opportunities this year, so of course Markov will spend less time on PP and more time on ES or PK.

Last year Habs were dead last in PP opportunity while 2 years ago, Habs were 1st. That's why Markov had a PP ice-time per game lower last year than the year before.

It would just be stupid to play Markov only on the PP and never on 5 on 5, so he'd be 1st in PP ice time per game.

On the other end, I do agree that I'd rather see Markov play the whole 2 minutes on PP.

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why make play 2 full minutes?
i find that really stupid.
with this you just open the door for an easy breakaway
He should play until he's tired, period. PP time doesn't involve much intensity most of the time. 1 minute and a half would be a piece of cake for Markov. And playing him only 1 minute in a close game in the 3rd period is REALLY stupid.

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Last year Habs were dead last in PP opportunity while 2 years ago, Habs were 1st.
I definitely should have checked these stats first, but I still think Markov is not used enough. He plays only 1 minute more than Hamrlik per game, that's not normal.

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Markov is averaging more PP ice time this year than last year, 5sec more.

It really doesn't matter so far. We're winning games despite being 28th on the PP. In the previous years, if our PP didn't work, chances are we'd end up losing.

There's no need to make Markov play 5min per game on the PP like we used too. It's still early in the season and Markov is slowly getting back into his funk.

Like someone else also brought up, your PP ice time per game will be relative to the amount of PP opportunities you get. So you have to take that into consideration when making comparison.

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11-13-2010, 08:06 PM
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I definitely should have checked these stats first, but I still think Markov is not used enough. He plays only 1 minute more than Hamrlik per game, that's not normal.
Hamrlik leads the team in PP points.At this pace, he would only have 1 less point than Plekanec did last year (the leader). Sure, you could argue that Markov should have more ice time, but it's not as bad as you think.

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Another knee injury for Markov.

I'll wait to see the nature of the injury....but if it does happen to be really bad, Markov is done and I'd be amazed if he isn't retired after 35.

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Markov's knee!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!

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I wouldn't re-sign him if this was serious. Way too injury prone. Love him, but it's getting to be a huge problem.

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He is recovering from a serious injury.
He may have just had a set back, so even less PP time

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**** my life... all these "our d is awesome" and "Markov needs more PP time" threads dated to right prior to the injury.

Good job guys really.

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I definitely should have checked these stats first, but I still think Markov is not used enough. He plays only 1 minute more than Hamrlik per game, that's not normal.
Hamrlik also has 8 points this year and is a +6. He's on pace for 43 points. He's also extremely solid defensively, has a great first pass, and makes good decisions most of the time.

Hamrlik is a great defenseman. I don't know how so few see it.

Not to mention, most teams don't throw a guy to the wolves who's just returned from a serious injury.

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Every powerplay, Markov goes to the bench near the 1 minute mark and is replaced by Hamrlik. This happens EVEN when the Habs are trailing by one late in the 3rd. Markov is currently 42nd in powerplay ice-time per game among defensemen. This is unacceptable and, honestly, quite absurd.

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he should get more PP time, but not the whole 2 minutes each time...

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The one who should be out there the full 2 minutes is Subban, he's 21 and has energy coming out of his ass. Markov was coming off a serious injury.

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The one who should be out there the full 2 minutes is Subban, he's 21 and has energy coming out of his ass. Markov was coming off a serious injury.
He farts a lot?

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RDS talkback are so funny today... His career is over, Markov is bad for the CH etc etc... So many dumb fan on those talkback.


Selanne had his knee all ****ed up by the age of 35 years old and look how he played since the lockout.

He might just need a reconstruction of his knee take a year off and come back stronger than ever.

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11-14-2010, 02:18 PM
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what is unacceptable is that now markov won't be playing for any part of the game

lol...what a great time to post this thread

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Every powerplay, Markov goes to the bench near the 1 minute mark and is replaced by Hamrlik. This happens EVEN when the Habs are trailing by one late in the 3rd. Markov is currently 42nd in powerplay ice-time per game among defensemen. This is unacceptable and, honestly, quite absurd.

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The second PP unit has to come on at some point if the 1st unit can't score. It's actually pretty normal in hockey.

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