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03-27-2012, 09:55 AM
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Perreault is currently a very low end 2C. He won't be missed if he's gone.

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03-27-2012, 09:57 AM
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In Backstrom's absence Perreault has stepped up a lot more than Johansson has. And Perreault seems to have found some chemistry with Semin, gotta keep those two together heading into the playoffs.
Johansson has a 10x higher ceiling. Perreault is old for a prospect... He's had a lot of experience in the AHL. Mojo will continue to improve over the next few years. Perreault wont.

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perreault is better than johansson? umm....no
Who has stepped up and filled in for the loss of Backstrom? MP or Mojo? Mojo isn't even playing center anymore. Dale has him as a winger. Why do you think this is tx?

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Perreault is currently a very low end 2C. He won't be missed if he's gone.

God, our fans are awesome.

24 years old and almost a .5 PPG already in his first full season and we are writing him off.

Add in with the "average" Neuvirth who has "hit his ceiling" already.

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03-27-2012, 10:03 AM
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Johansson has a 10x higher ceiling. Perreault is old for a prospect... He's had a lot of experience in the AHL. Mojo will continue to improve over the next few years. Perreault wont.
Did I every say Perreault had a higher ceiling then Johansson?

Perreault has been the better player here recently and I would feel more comfortable with him as the 2nd line center over Johansson going into the playoffs.

With that said, of course Johansson is going to end up being the better player of the two, but right now I'd take Perreault as the 2nd line center.

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03-27-2012, 10:07 AM
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They need a healthy Backstrom and an additional veteran scoring center, in my opinion. Neither of the young players in question would be my choice either to fill in for injured Backstrom as the top center, nor as a regular #2 center. They should be depth at this point.

This has, of course, been the case for 2+ solid years. It's been a McPhee blind spot.

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03-27-2012, 10:10 AM
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God, our fans are awesome.

24 years old and almost a .5 PPG already in his first full season and we are writing him off.

Add in with the "average" Neuvirth who has "hit his ceiling" already.
It's called reality. Perreault already entered his prime physically, and at this point he's one of the worst players at 2C in the league. His ceiling is average 2C (and that's optimistic). I'm sorry, but I don't really want to waste Ovi and Backstrom's prime seasons waiting for MP to reach his full potential of a middle of the line 2C.

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03-27-2012, 10:33 AM
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I haven't read the whole thread but I like MP. He's very creative and opens up ice. Although physically over challenged I don't see him being that much worse than MJ in that department. Perreault is more of a finisher but an adequate playmaker too.

I like both on the roster. If MJ is struggling then give MP a few shifts. I hope they both stick around. Teams seem to be built on their talent up the middle and they both have talent IMHO.

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03-27-2012, 10:55 AM
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Wait til his arbitration ruling. That's going to be fun around here. Gmgm is notorious for overpaying guys who perform above their right place due to excessive opportunity created by injury or stupidity.

So then perhaps gmgm wot let him get to arbitration.

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Wait til his arbitration ruling. That's going to be fun around here. Gmgm is notorious for overpaying guys who perform above their right place due to excessive opportunity created by injury or stupidity.

So then perhaps gmgm wot let him get to arbitration.
Just like Karl Alzner?

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03-27-2012, 12:15 PM
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Silly boys. Alzner didn't have arb rights. Which is why I nailed his contract while all you guys were fretting.

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Johansson has a 10x higher ceiling. Perreault is old for a prospect... He's had a lot of experience in the AHL. Mojo will continue to improve over the next few years. Perreault wont.
Huh. I guess players are now done developing at 24. Nevermind the improvement MP has made from age 23 to 24. Once you hit 24, that's it! No more improvement.

I don't think MP is the long term answer at 2C and MJ certainly has the higher ceiling but c'mon, MP is clearly has a spot on a NHL roster and can still grow as a player.

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03-27-2012, 12:41 PM
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Huh. I guess players are now done developing at 24. Nevermind the improvement MP has made from age 23 to 24. Once you hit 24, that's it! No more improvement.

I don't think MP is the long term answer at 2C and MJ certainly has the higher ceiling but c'mon, MP is clearly has a spot on a NHL roster and can still grow as a player.

Why do you think NHL teams don't draft good overagers?

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Why do you think NHL teams don't draft good overagers?
Answer me this.......has MP not improved from when he arrived in DC to now?

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03-27-2012, 12:53 PM
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Answer me this.......has MP not improved from when he arrived in DC to now?
Do you mean since the time he was drafted?
He's been in Hershey for a while...

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Do you mean since the time he was drafted?
He's been in Hershey for a while...
Has MP improved as player from last season to this season? I think he has. MJ has the upside but MP has a role on a NHL roster. I've been pleasantly surprised.

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03-27-2012, 01:07 PM
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Has MP improved as player from last season to this season? I think he has. MJ has the upside but MP has a role on a NHL roster. I've been pleasantly surprised.
I don't think he improved, I think he was just finally given a fair chance.

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03-27-2012, 01:46 PM
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Well I'm definitely dumber after reading the last few posts of this thread.

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I don't think he improved, I think he was just finally given a fair chance.
I will concur with that!

Some of the naysayers on here are plain unrealistic.

He will never be an Ovie, but he can sure be useful to this team.
I don't think he cares playing 2nd or 3rd line center either....as long as he is useful to his team.

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03-27-2012, 02:06 PM
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FWIW, Perreault has scored at about a ~50point pace in games he's played 10+ minutes.

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I like the guy, honestly. Out of the average skilled grinders and wingers on this team, he's certainly stepped up more than aynone else. I think he can be a constistant 3L and occasional 2L on this team for a while. He's "old" but he can still improve. Mojo needs to step it up soon, the guy is losing my faith day by day.

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03-28-2012, 02:33 PM
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Perreault's been better than Johansson for the last 15 games or so.

But for all the talk about his creativity, he's only got 13 assists in 59 games. And his goal total is a bit deceiving with his abnormally high shooting percentage.

I think he'd fit well as a 3C on a team that rolled 3 scoring lines, or as a bit of offensive pop on an energy line. He's not consistent enough to be a regular top-6 player.

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03-28-2012, 02:47 PM
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I thought Perrault or Semin was your best player last night. I didn't even notice Johansson. Not once.

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I think he'd fit well as a 3C on a team that rolled 3 scoring lines, or as a bit of offensive pop on an energy line. He's not consistent enough to be a regular top-6 player.
I think there's a lot of truth to this, unfortunately.

I really like MP, he's a crafty little player and in a way quite gritty. But the way the Caps are structured, I'm not sure that he can be a good fit. I think he needs to be on a line with players who have decent skill and work hard at puck retrieval.. the Caps don't really have those.

But yeah, he's far from being one of Caps' problems. I certainly wouldn't want him to leave for peanuts. He can be that spark on the energy line, or 3rd line against some teams, and still provide decent center depth. He hasn't looked out of place on the 2nd line to me. Unspectacular, but not out of place. And I think he'll still get stronger physically. You can tell he gets gassed at the end of shifts. .. I think with a bit more NHL games under his belt his endurance will improve and he'll learn to manage his energy better.

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Which is what I harped on over and over and over when those moron's sent him down. He, flash, and fehr had good chemistry, fit well with playing style, and could have their minutes managed.

Big mistake by those idiots. And it was obvious to see.

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