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11-16-2010, 06:43 AM
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ISS Top 30 November (Risers & Fallers)

To the delight of our dwindling playoff hopes and likely lottery pick. Here are the next in line for hope in our future.

The November prospect rankings for the 2011 NHL draft.
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1. Couturier, Sean, C 12/7/92 L 6.04 191 Drummondville QMJHL

2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan, F 4/12/93 L 6.00.5 166 Red Deer WHL

3. Larsson, Adam, RD 11/12/92 R 6.02 209 Skelleftea SweE

4. Landeskog, Gabriel, LW 11/23/92 L 6.00.25 205 Kitchener OHL

5. Murphy, Ryan, RD 3/31/93 R 5.10.25 168 Kitchener OHL

6. Armia, Joel, RW 5/31/93 R 6.02 165 Assat FinE(UP 9)

7. Rask, Victor, C 3/1/93 L 6.01 194 Leksands SweAl(Down 2)

8. Siemens, Duncan, LD 9/7/93 L 6.02.25 185 Saskatoon WHL(Up 3)

9. Saad, Brandon, LW 10/27/92 L 6.02.25 200 Saginaw OHL(Down 2)

10. Puempel, Matthew, LW 1/24/93 L 6.00.5 188 Peterborough OHL(Down 2)

11. Hamilton, Douglas, RD 6/17/93 R 6.04 190 Niagara OHL(Down 1)

12. Strome, Ryan, C 7/11/93 R 6.00 163 Niagara OHL(Unranked-Up 19+)

13. Russo, Robbie, RD 2/15/93 R 5.11.5 189 USA Under-18 USHL(Up 12)

14. Musil, David, LD 4/9/93 L 6.03.25 191 Vancouver WHL(Down 5)

15. Bell, Myles, RD 8/19/93 R 5.11.75 213 Regina WHL(Up 8)

16. Ambroz, Seth, RW 4/3/93 R 6.01.75 205 Omaha USHL(Down 4)

17. Jurco, Tomas, RW 12/28/92 L 6.00 180 Saint John QMJHL(Down 3)

18. Khokhlachev, Alexander F 9/9/93 L 5.11 172 Windsor OHL(Down 5)

19. Jaskin, Dmitrij, RW 3/23/93 L 6.01 196 Slavia CzeJr(Up 10)

20. Namestnikov, Vladislav, F 11/22/92 L 5.11.75 156 London OHL(Up 1)

21. Nieto, Matthew (Fr.), LW 11/5/92 L 5.10.5 175 Boston University H.E.(Up 1)

22. Mayfield, Scott, RD 10/14/92 R 6.03.5 197 Youngstown USHL(Unranked-Up 9+)

23. McColgan, Shane, RW 1/1/93 R 5.08 165 Kelowna WHL(Down 4)

24. Shalunov, Maxim, F 1/31/93 L 6.03 185 Chelyabinsk Belye RusJr(Down 6)

25. Rattie, Ty, LW 2/5/93 R 5.10.75 169 Portland WHL(Unranked-Up 5+)

26. Jacobs, Colin, F 1/20/93 R 6.02 205 Seattle WHL(Unranked-Up5+)

27. McNeill, Mark, C 2/22/93 R 6.00.75 198 Prince Albert WHL(Unranked-Up 4+)

28. Koudys, Patrick (Fr.), LD 11/15/92 L 6.02.25 195 Rensselaer ECAC

29. Clendening, Adam (Fr.), RD 10/26/92 R 5.11.25 190 Boston Univ. H.E.(Down 12)

30. Grimaldi, Rocco, C 2/8/93 R 5.06 161 USA Under 18 USHL
Highest Fallers - Adam Clendening(12), Maxim Shalunov(6), Khocklachev(5),
David Musil(5)

Highest Gainers - Ryan Strome(19+), Scott Mayfield(9+), Robbie Russo(12)


For the full article and explanations you can view it here - http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._november2010/

"It's never too soon in the world of an Oil fan and an avid prospect guru to know who's digging the basement for redemption and who's climbing the stairs toward potential stud status."

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Thanks Grod. Interesting about Musil, if the Oilers could get another 1st, and get him later, that might make for a great steal.

For anyone in the know, what made Armia shoot up so much?

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Thanks Grod. Interesting about Musil, if the Oilers could get another 1st, and get him later, that might make for a great steal.
Exactly what I was thinking. If he's still there during the 12-17 range we should try and grab him or Strome.

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Exactly what I was thinking. If he's still there during the 12-17 range we should try and grab him or Strome.
I like the idea of a big defenseman with bloodlines.

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I like the idea of a big defenseman with bloodlines.
same here. I'm also a bit surprised to see Larsson in third.

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I like the idea of a big defenseman with bloodlines.
Honestly is Hamilton is still around, I think I would take him over Musil. I love what the kid brings to the table. He makes what should be a weak defense in Niagara Strong

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I'm intrigued by Ryan Strome.

If we could land Larsson and Strome, look out, but I get the feeling Strome is going to rise into the top 10, perhaps even top 5 before the draft arrives.

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I personally am loving Gabriel Landeskog plays a mike richards like game on wing and great vocal leader if he drops at all I hope we try and swing a trade for him our team lacks amzing leadership and if we can secure good kids who have high skill and possess leadership ability we need to attempt to land that helping us in that category in the future.

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the "big 3" have been underwhelming thus far....hopefully they have big WJ tournaments

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Shane Mccolgan is going to be a steal if he goes that late

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The draft is setting up to be great for a top 10 pick, but no run away top 1-2 picks.

Thus I hope the Oilers actually pull it together a bit.

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In other words, it's not a great year to suck.

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In other words, it's not a great year to suck.
its looking that way.... if there is no "run away #1 pick", generally its not a year you want to finish last.... we're looking like we'll finish last 2 years in a row where there wasn't a consensus #1 pick (just out luck).... although hall was *close* to a consensus pick, with roughly 75% of NHL scouts saying they would take him #1

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2 centers #1,#2 and Rask at #7, no excuse this year for Edmonton not to get a center this organization so hugely needs!

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Armia shot up just because he's playing extremely well so far in the highest league in Finland. Helps that he isn't your standard midget Finn sniper as well.

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I remember around a year ago, when people we're talking about Musil on the prospect board, many people over there who claimed to have watched him play several times said he'd be lucky to go top 10, would probably be mid to late first round pick. I don't know why people were pegging him as such a stud when apparently he's good but not world beating at anything, just a steady, strong overall defenseman.

Anyways the Oilers need a huge dose of Couturier for the future. I'll be happy with either him or RNH, but they need a centre unless it's clear that the D-men available are that much better, that much more special.

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Rattie's rise has started. I expect a top 15 ranking by the end of the season.

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Thanks Grod. Interesting about Musil, if the Oilers could get another 1st, and get him later, that might make for a great steal.

For anyone in the know, what made Armia shoot up so much?
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You're more than welcome.

The big talented Armia is just producing more and more excitement with every game he plays. He has adapted very well to Finland’s SM-Liiga scoring 8 goals in his first 12 games in Finland’s highest league. The SM-Liiga is probably the European league which translates best to the North American game as many of the rinks are actually NHL style dimensions and the Finnish style is a very nice hybrid of traditional European skill and North American passion, heart and grit. A great skater with an excellent release on his shot and a combination of fearless determination and power, The 17 year old Armia continues to get better and better and makes his debut in ISS’s top 10 rankings this month.
Sounds to me like he has come out with some high production totals in the Finnish elite league. 8 points in twelve games is one thing but 8 goals is a torrent pace.

Good sign for a 17 year old. Considering that Rajala only has nine points in sixteen games in the same league I'd say this kid is tearing up it up thus far. Not too mention he is lanky frame at 6'2. Pretty impressive intangible.


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"The SM-Liiga is probably the European league which translates best to the North American game as many of the rinks are actually NHL style dimensions"

You mean they aren't all the same size?

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Let's say the Oilers draft 3rd overall and Couturier and RNH already went #1 and #2. Who would you pick with that 3rd pick? For me it would be between Larsson and Murphy and it would be a really tough choice. I was all for Larsson before this season began but Murphy looks really good as well.

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I like the idea of a big defenseman with bloodlines.
Apparently his father is also a scout for the Oilers?

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Apparently his father is also a scout for the Oilers?
I think so... but great... when we buy him out his father is gonna resign too





Oilers should try hard for Ryan Murphy. Don Cherry predicted him to be number 1 i think or something. Hes been pretty accurate in his prospect scouting lol. But he is lighting up the OHL right now.

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The day before ISS release its list McKenzie thought that Nugent-Hopkins would be ranked #1

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Let's say the Oilers draft 3rd overall and Couturier and RNH already went #1 and #2. Who would you pick with that 3rd pick? For me it would be between Larsson and Murphy and it would be a really tough choice. I was all for Larsson before this season began but Murphy looks really good as well.
Id look to trade pick for #5 or #6 (and take Rask) and get a extra 2nd round pick

WE NEED CENTER, period.

Nothing else will do, we can build defence corp through later rounds

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The day before ISS release its list McKenzie thought that Nugent-Hopkins would be ranked #1
I appreciate Hopkins skill and playing style. But I still think the Couturier's and Larsson's are harder to find. I'm suprised RNH didn't drop to third.

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