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06-16-2004, 08:38 AM
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With a couple of players gone what do you think our line up will look like

With a Juneau retired
Dackell in Sweeden
Perreault not gona be signed
Dagenais on the bubble
Kovlev might sign with another team

what do you think the line up will look like?

Here is mine

Zednik Koivu Perezhogin
Ryder Ribiero Ward / Hossa
Lapperiere/Bulis Dowd Begin
Langdon Higgins Sundstrom

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1st...Zednik, Koivu, Free agent

2nd...Hossa, Ribs, Ryder

3rd....Bulis, Dowd/Pleks, Ward

4th....Higgins, Begin, Langdon/Lappy

Sunny wont be resigned imo. As for the first line right wing, who knows who is gona end up there, because imo it certainly wont be Perezhogan, and im sure Kastitsyn will need atleast one season of conditioning to get used to the North American style of game and the learn to play some D.

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Perezhogin is suspended anyways and im pretty sure the NHL will honor the suspension. I'd like to see Dagenais return but only if he works out HARD in the summer, speed, strenght/physicality and defensive play especially. With a shot that hard/accurate the guy could easily score 30 goals IMO if he played regularily . I would also like to give Higgins a shot instead of Plekanec his defensive play would be as valuable as his offense. I think its also time to trade Quintal and try to wean Hainsey into his spot, WAIT before you stat whining about his defense, I know he cant really play defense and I know it would make a rocky beginning but think of Mike Komisarek ( ), he was terrible at the beginning of the year and all it took for him to become a BEAST in the playoffs was a year of good coaching, reasonable ice time (especially with the injuries), experience and great coaching. Also if we lose Kovalev we could use his skill on the point (PP). Yes, he will make mistakes, and yes he will probably cause the other team to get a few goals, but if by next year we have a big offensive defense man who can play reasonable well on D, its worth it. I would also find a way to get a better fighter than Langdon tho he gives it his all but just does not strike fear and respect into the hearts of his opponents, and also give Ward and Hossa 1st or 2nd line duty. THE KIDS NEED TO PLAY TO DEVELOP.

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Perezhogin is suspended anyways and im pretty sure the NHL will honor the suspension. I'd like to see Dagenais return but only if he works out HARD in the summer, speed, strenght/physicality and defensive play especially. With a shot that hard/accurate the guy could easily score 30 goals IMO if he played regularily . I would also like to give Higgins a shot instead of Plekanec his defensive play would be as valuable as his offense. I think its also time to trade Quintal and try to wean Hainsey into his spot, WAIT before you stat whining about his defense, I know he cant really play defense and I know it would make a rocky beginning but think of Mike Komisarek ( ), he was terrible at the beginning of the year and all it took for him to become a BEAST in the playoffs was a year of good coaching, reasonable ice time (especially with the injuries), experience and great coaching. Also if we lose Kovalev we could use his skill on the point (PP). Yes, he will make mistakes, and yes he will probably cause the other team to get a few goals, but if by next year we have a big offensive defense man who can play reasonable well on D, its worth it. I would also find a way to get a better fighter than Langdon tho he gives it his all but just does not strike fear and respect into the hearts of his opponents, and also give Ward and Hossa 1st or 2nd line duty. THE KIDS NEED TO PLAY TO DEVELOP.
WE dont have to trade quintal, hes an UFA. Just dont sign him. I agree that Hainsey should play by the way!

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Zednik-Koivu-UFA
Ryder-Ribeiro-Dagenais
Bulis-UFA-Ward
Higgins-Bégin-UFA/Hossa

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Zednik--Koivu--UFA (Kovalev!!)
Ryder--Ribeiro--Dagenais/Hossa/Plekanec (for now, hopefully upgrade through trade)
Bulis--UFA (Draper!!)--Ward
Begin--UFA (Dowd!!)--UFA (Laperriere!!)

Spare: Langdon, Sundstrom (maybe)

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Originally Posted by Mike The Wall
With a Juneau retired
Dackell in Sweeden
Perreault not gona be signed
Dagenais on the bubble
Kovlev might sign with another team

what do you think the line up will look like?

Here is mine

Zednik Koivu Perezhogin
Ryder Ribiero Ward / Hossa
Lapperiere/Bulis Dowd Begin
Langdon Higgins Sundstrom
Starting a new season with the above lineup and with Quintal as a regular sixth defenseman would be the equivalent of standing pat for Bob Gainey.

I sincerely believe we would miss the playoffs with such a team. Some teams will improve and I'm thinking of the Panthers with Jacques Martin behind the bench and the Thrashers with a healthy Heatly all year.


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Starting a new season with the above lineup and with Quintal as a regular sixth defenseman would be the equivalent of standing pat for Bob Gainey.

I sincerely believe we would miss the playoffs with such a team. Some teams will improve and I'm thinking of the Panthers with Jacques Martin behind the bench and the Thrashers with a healthy Heatly all year.

I agree we will not make the play offs but we also need to insert certain rookies in the line up

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Ryder Koivu Zednik
Bulis Ribiero Hossa
Higgins Dowd Ward
Hossa/Langdon Begin Laperriere

Souray-Quintal/Komisarek
Markov-Rivet
Bouillon-Brisebois

Hainsey? (Does the signing of Quintal put Hainsey out of the picture?)

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We should waste a lot of money this year, signing many big name UFAs, and then at the draft trade them all for the first overall, Crosby. We'd have bait to get him, that way. That'd be a great strategy.

Maybe not...

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I really think Gainey want to sign Quintal to trade Brisebois or rivet + our first draft pick for something

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Ryder Koivu Zednik
Bulis Ribiero Hossa
Higgins Dowd Ward
Hossa/Langdon Begin Laperriere

Souray-Quintal/Komisarek
Markov-Rivet
Bouillon-Brisebois

Hainsey? (Does the signing of Quintal put Hainsey out of the picture?)
I like that line up but a bit too weak on the 2nd line

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I'll try and match what I want with what I think will happen.

2 offensive lines. Start with 2 duos Koivu/Zednik
Ribs/Ryder

I would like a player acquired to play on one of those lines and a rookie to land a spot on the other. Maybe Selanne with Koivu and Higgins with Ribs. Dagenais and Bullis wil have camp to prove that they have improved/turned a corner or in some way justify a place on one of these lines. Assuming Bullis is freed for a checking line role, I could see the next 2 lines something like this.
Bullis/Begin/Ward
Hossa or Langdon Plekanec/Laperriere. I think an agressive defensive player will be signed, one of Laperriere,Barnaby,Simon, that style of player. Sundstrom can be in the mix, the center position might be upgraded if we don't acquire an offensive forward. plekanec may be switched with Higgins depending on their camps. Bullis can end up with Koivu again, he may turn the corner offensively but I tend to doubt it. I'd rather see a grittier player in Sundstrom's role but we will need the depth he can provide. If Dagenais can't play on an offensive line, he can't play at all .

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I'd like a lineup who looks like this...

Zednik-Koivu-Konowalchuk
Ryder-Ribeiro-Drake
Ward-Laperrière-Bulis
Higgins-Bégin-Hossa

Langdon

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Zednik-Koivu-Palffy
Ryder-Ribeiro-Hossa
Bulis-Higgins-Perezhogin
Lappy-Begin-Ward


Langdon



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If Kovalev walks, I dont think we will see any other big name player either. One or two hired guns will be needed for checking line - Laperriere and Marshall would be my favourites. If Pleks/Higgins didnt have good enough camp, grab someone from waiver wire for depth.

Having Kovalev would be fun, but we did make the playoffs without him. I'm positive couple decent 3rd liner acquisitions, Hossa Pleks/Higgins more than make up the 33 goals scored by Perreault Sundstrom Juneau and Dackell.

Hossa Koivu Zednik
Higgins Ribeiro Ryder
Bulis Laperriere Marshall
Begin Plekanec Ward

+ Langdon (plays on 4th line wing, when Pleks needs time out)
+ Dagenais (part time player if Hossa or Higgins need to be scratched)

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If Kovalev walks, I dont think we will see any other big name player either. One or two hired guns will be needed for checking line - Laperriere and Marshall would be my favourites. If Pleks/Higgins didnt have good enough camp, grab someone from waiver wire for depth.

Having Kovalev would be fun, but we did make the playoffs without him. I'm positive couple decent 3rd liner acquisitions, Hossa Pleks/Higgins more than make up the 33 goals scored by Perreault Sundstrom Juneau and Dackell.

Hossa Koivu Zednik
Higgins Ribeiro Ryder
Bulis Laperriere Marshall
Begin Plekanec Ward

+ Langdon (plays on 4th line wing, when Pleks needs time out)
+ Dagenais (part time player if Hossa or Higgins need to be scratched)
I guess that looks like the team Gainey will have for next season (if there is one)...not sure about Marshall though.

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WE dont have to trade quintal, hes an UFA. Just dont sign him. I agree that Hainsey should play by the way!
I'd rather get a low pick than nothing

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It's tough to think of a lineup. We don't even know if there will be a season.

Some things are sure:

1st line: Zednik/Koivu
2nd line: Ryder/Ribeiro
3rd line: Bulis
4th line: Begin, Ward

Markov
Souray
Brisebois
Komisarek
Rivet
Bouillon

Theodore
Garon

Conclusions:
we are strong in front of the net.
we have a good D corp.
we lacks offensive & depth

Solutions:
Star top 6 ufa.
Rookie top 6 (Hossa, Higgins, Perezhogin or even Kats)
Plekanec as 3rd line centre. If he don't do the job, Begin is there.
Sign a 3rd or 4th liner ufa. Like Lappy.
Give the other spots to rookie

Results:
if we fill those spots, we will have a good young team. Experts will saw us taking the 7th or 8th spot in the east.

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I'd rather get a low pick than nothing
so would i, but we cant trade him, because he is no longer a part of our team. He is an UFA.

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so would i, but we cant trade him, because he is no longer a part of our team. He is an UFA.
i think he is talking about Hainsey

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i think he is talking about Hainsey
I hope not, because hes worth more than any old late pick.

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I hope not, because hes worth more than any old late pick.
AGREE hes worth at least a high second round pick IMO but I would better not trade him I will put him 6 or 7 defenceman next year ! he and the cube will deliver a good battle for this spot (6th defenceman) if there are some hockey next year.



P.S I am just tired to write that sentence '' If there are some hockey next year''

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AGREE hes worth at least a high second round pick IMO but I would better not trade him I will put him 6 or 7 defenceman next year ! he and the cube will deliver a good battle for this spot (6th defenceman) if there are some hockey next year.
ya, and i like that. Hainsey now knows hes up against some stiff competition if he wants to earn the job or even keep his job. Before he had quintal to steel the spot from, who was getting older and getting ready to retire(atleast it seemed and still does seem that way). Not anymore, the cube is relatively young. I hope it works that way anyways.

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I absolutely don't want Quintal on our new team. The years of mediocrity are past.
It's time to move up from that.

Remember this year when Quintal was skating with the puck behind Theo's net and then fall on the ice against the Avalanches??? Then an AVS player passed to Barnaby in from of the net & Barnaby made a quick pass to Gratton who scored easely. I knew at that time that Quintal have become real bad & we had to get rid of this player.


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