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11-03-2010, 03:36 PM
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Deutschland Cup 2010

Munich, GERMANY
12.11.2010 - 14.11.2010

Teams: Canada , Germany , Switzerland , Slovakia

Here is the schedule of the tourney and roster of each team:
http://stats.iihf.com/deb/14/

In my opinion according to rosters Germany will win this tournament, but who knows.

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I wonder why Canada picked only players from DEL and nobody from KHL and rest of Europe...

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I wonder why Canada picked only players from DEL and nobody from KHL and rest of Europe...
Maybe new strategy of Mark Messier how to win World Championship 2011?
Actually i think it is some form of reward to canadian players that play in Germany.

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11-05-2010, 01:24 AM
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I wonder why Canada picked only players from DEL and nobody from KHL and rest of Europe...
At least in recent years Canada always sent a DEL only selection and it´s enough for the competition in this tournament- there´s hardly any player older than 25 on the Swiss roster, Slovak roster is a joke for this tournament as per usually etc. I wouldn´t be shocked if the Canadians take it even with a DEL only team.

EDIT:Looking at the rosters at IIHF´s website, I had no idea that we had an 11 year old playing in the leaue, gotta ba a supertalent this Marek Biro- born February 8th 1999.


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At least in recent years Canada always sent a DEL only selection and it´s enough for the competition in this tournament- there´s hardly any player older than 25 on the Swiss roster, Slovak roster is a joke for this tournament as per usually etc. I wouldn´t be shocked if the Canadians take it even with a DEL only team.

EDIT:Looking at the rosters at IIHF´s website, I had no idea that we had an 11 year old playing in the leaue, gotta ba a supertalent this Marek Biro- born February 8th 1999.
lol, he must have grown up somewhere near Chernobyl, when he´s 190/90 at the age of 11

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lol, he must have grown up somewhere near Chernobyl, when he´s 190/90 at the age of 11
lol, and I thought Leon Draisaitl, who just turned 15 about a week ago was pretty big for his age at 179/72.

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lol, and I thought Leon Draisaitl, who just turned 15 about a week ago was pretty big for his age at 179/72.
Nah, you don´t feed your kids enough milk when that is pretty big for 15.....I mean how big does that make Matej Paulovič with 187/78 and still more than 2 months from turning 16.

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Nah, you don´t feed your kids enough milk when that is pretty big for 15.....I mean how big does that make Matej Paulovič with 187/78 and still more than 2 months from turning 16.
daniel wunsch is 184cm while turning 13 in december:
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=85506

the milk is fine is germany.

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daniel wunsch is 184cm while turning 13 in december:
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=85506

the milk is fine is germany.
"Meine Damen und Herren! Er ist gekrönt der neue King King." Or maybe just new Zdeno Chara?

However i hope this thread will be about Deutschland Cup, not only about Chernobyl´s kids.

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Slovak head coach Glen Hanlon announced three changes:
René Vydarený (České Budějovice), Jozef Balej (Brno) and Marcel Haščák (Košice) were replaced due to injuries by Marek Ďaloga (HKm Zvolen), Michal Kokavec (MsHK Žilina) and by Marek Haščák (HKm Zvolen).

http://www.szlh.sk/clanok/59962-Tri-...cky-pohar-2010
or: http://translate.google.sk/translate...cky-pohar-2010

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german roster:

http://eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=8596

10 injured players said no, so there's 8 newbies and a pretty young team. probably the only reason to watch.

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Very fairly, with no bias or whatever energy making my forecast subjective in any sort ... i say :

young swiss players will win this one.

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Very fairly, with no bias or whatever energy making my forecast subjective in any sort ... i say :

young swiss players will win this one.
i really doubt that after their loss against canada.

but i like the idea of dressing a U26 team with a lot of newbies for this tournament in order to get more depth for the future.

a young swiss team, a young german team...maybe this cup is more interesting than i thought.

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but i like the idea of dressing a U26 team with a lot of newbies for this tournament in order to get more depth for the future.
The idea is good, but I would have prefered something like 15 young players and 5 veterans. The youngsters could learn from their experience.

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The idea is good, but I would have prefered something like 15 young players and 5 veterans. The youngsters could learn from their experience.
This is what Glen Hanlon did with Slovak NT:

- 5 NT veterans: (30+): Lintner, Somík, Mezei, Zedník, Čiernik

- 9 players between 25 and 30 years: Starosta, Hossa, Radivojevič, Graňák, Bartek, Huna, Kokavec, Macho, Špirko

- 10 youngsters (under 25 years): Biro, Ďaloga, Haščák, Hudáček, Konrád, Mikúš, Olvecký, Sersen, Tománek, Zagrapan

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This is what Glen Hanlon did with Slovak NT:

- 5 NT veterans: (30+): Lintner, Somík, Mezei, Zedník, Čiernik

- 9 players between 25 and 30 years: Starosta, Hossa, Radivojevič, Graňák, Bartek, Huna, Kokavec, Macho, Špirko

- 10 youngsters (under 25 years): Biro, Ďaloga, Haščák, Hudáček, Konrád, Mikúš, Olvecký, Sersen, Tománek, Zagrapan
yeah, however we already have that young team experiment behind us with Filc two years ago, not many players are comming back this year, so i´d say it didn´t work much.

The one thing i really disagree with is Hanlon´s choice of veterans. And hanlon could have done with more young players (I know he´ll try out another 20 players in december), but what´s the chance that a guy like kokavec will play at the wHC in SVK?

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team switzerland becomes elder

player out: Dario bürgler (23), Mathias Bieber (24), Victor Stancescu (25)

player in: Paul Savary (28) John Gobbi (29) David Jobin (29) Gianni Ehrensperger (25) Caryl Neuenschwander (26)

unsure is, if phillip furrer (25) can play (so maybe, john gobbi or david jobin won't play)

i think, it's sad that only elder player replace the injured or ill players. why not young players like Marc Welti, Mauro Jörg or Gregory Sciaroni? i mean, simpson said that november is the "future-week" ....

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yeah, however we already have that young team experiment behind us with Filc two years ago, not many players are comming back this year, so i´d say it didn´t work much.

The one thing i really disagree with is Hanlon´s choice of veterans. And hanlon could have done with more young players (I know he´ll try out another 20 players in december), but what´s the chance that a guy like kokavec will play at the wHC in SVK?
Actually i agree with your opinion. I have no idea why following players are there:
Lintner - Great personality, but his last 2 seasons have been bad.
Somík - Is this veteran 3rd liner from Czech extraliga needed?
Mezei - Well, he is average player suitable for AHL, not for Slovak NT.
Kokavec - 27 years old player as a youngster?
Špirko - Yes = speed and that is all.
Konrád - I do not think this goalie will have great future.

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team switzerland becomes elder

player out: Dario bürgler (23), Mathias Bieber (24), Victor Stancescu (25)

player in: Paul Savary (28) John Gobbi (29) David Jobin (29) Gianni Ehrensperger (25) Caryl Neuenschwander (26)

unsure is, if phillip furrer (25) can play (so maybe, john gobbi or david jobin won't play)

i think, it's sad that only elder player replace the injured or ill players. why not young players like Marc Welti, Mauro Jörg or Gregory Sciaroni? i mean, simpson said that november is the "future-week" ....
Those guys are not exactly old either, and as I pointed out earlier, the young guys can benefit from the experience of others (Though I would have prefered guys like Plüss, Jeannin or Seger to provide the experience rather than those).

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Those guys are not exactly old either, and as I pointed out earlier, the young guys can benefit from the experience of others (Though I would have prefered guys like Plüss, Jeannin or Seger to provide the experience rather than those).
well, when there was planed a U25 with about 5 older player, than there old
i just mean, simpson want to do this "future week". so why not replace the young players with other talented young players? now it's right time to test this guys. and there are player on the list, who aren't old but they already were starter during the "Krueger-Ära". i guess, this guys can help the newbies. but i agree with you, this circa 5 older guys should be players with more international experience like Seger, Rüthemann or Bührer ...

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Day 1

Switzerland - Slovakia 2:0
goals:
39' Sprunger
51' Brunner

Germany - Canada 4:3
9' Hager 1:0
13' Hospelt 2:0
15' Weiß 3:0
28' Robinson 3:1
29' Bouck 3:2
34' Scalzo 3:3
35' Reimer 4:3

who watched the games? your thoughts?

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Day 1

Switzerland - Slovakia 2:0
goals:
39' Sprunger
51' Brunner

Germany - Canada 4:3
9' Hager 1:0
13' Hospelt 2:0
15' Weiß 3:0
28' Robinson 3:1
29' Bouck 3:2
34' Scalzo 3:3
35' Reimer 4:3

who watched the games? your thoughts?
I only watched the last period of the Germany game. From what I saw, some of our new players did pretty well, but one period seems hardly conclusive.

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I only watched the last period of the Germany game. From what I saw, some of our new players did pretty well, but one period seems hardly conclusive.
same in the first two periods. a good effort in general, but the struggle in the 2nd period when canada tied the game was awful. the german team completely forgot how to play defense.

but entertaining game at least and hopefully they can continue with this effort today.

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Hey guys !

Deutschland Cup


Possibilities : 4 teams : Canada, Germany, Slovakia and Switzerland

clues : Switzerland beat Slovakia. Slovakia beat Germany. Germany beat Canada.

question : who will win ?

i know ... i know ... just funny to brag a bit ! tomorow is another day ! Tonight may already be another day.

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Finally my prediction for this tournament was completely correct. Germany has won own cup.



Results and Standings:
http://stats.iihf.com/deb/14/IHM014200_76_6_0.pdf

At least one positive result for Slovakia: We defeated the winner of the tourney.
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