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11-18-2010, 02:51 PM
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Some one sell me on Bogosian, because I don't think he is worth this proposal. I hoesntly think he is over rated simply by his draft position,

He is currently second on the Thrashers TOI; first ES, 6th SH and 3rd PP


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I think that a similar package should be used for a trade with Nashville. They would seem more likely to give up a young defenseman. Blum? Suter? Ellis? Franson?

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I think that a similar package should be used for a trade with Nashville. They would seem more likely to give up a young defenseman. Blum? Suter? Ellis? Franson?
I think Suter and Weber are the untouchables on that d corps. I like Franson a lot

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Bobby Orr is the reason he wears number 4.

But in all honesty, he's a big body on the back end, plays physical, he's got a very solid shot from the blue line but he also is quick with the puck, can move it well. Willing to drop them. Can play PP, 5 on 5, and PK.

While he's taking a little bit to get going this season with a shoulder injury, the kid has the package and the potential to be the real deal, and really is perfect for what the Bruins are looking for, someone who can provide offense from the back end while still being able to hold their own defensively. Also he's a righty, which we don't have much of.
Team needs a puck mover, not another big body who can drop em. If you're gonna give up a propect like Colborne AND TO's first you best be getting something you need.

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Bobby Orr is the reason he wears number 4.

But in all honesty, he's a big body on the back end, plays physical, he's got a very solid shot from the blue line but he also is quick with the puck, can move it well. Willing to drop them. Can play PP, 5 on 5, and PK.
While he's taking a little bit to get going this season with a shoulder injury, the kid has the package and the potential to be the real deal, and really is perfect for what the Bruins are looking for, someone who can provide offense from the back end while still being able to hold their own defensively. Also he's a righty, which we don't have much of.
Currently he is 6th on the Thrashers with Enstrom getting more PK time than him. Usually not a sign of someone who can play PK .

Last year he was 5th on the Thrashers for PK time he is young and can develop, but i am not sure if playing the PK is something he can do at this point in his career.

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But its so exciting to watch the status of the pick...

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I think that a similar package should be used for a trade with Nashville. They would seem more likely to give up a young defenseman. Blum? Suter? Ellis? Franson?
It better be sutter. I love Blum, and might give up Colborne for him, but NO way on earth would I give up the Toronto pick for him. franson is off to a hot start, but no way I give up both for him. Ellis, personally I wouldn't give up Colborne for him

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I think Suter and Weber are the untouchables on that d corps. I like Franson a lot
Not enough. Sort of soft for a big kid, doesn't have plus skating, but his overall game and whatnot is pretty solid. He'd definitely help but he doesn't have the exact skillset this team needs IMO. In a trade with Nashville I'd tried to get Roussel (and Colin Wilson, ha).

As far as this trade proposal. I'd do it in heart beat if it was our #1... but be wary if it was Toronto's.

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11-18-2010, 03:06 PM
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Wow massive massive overpayment by us. Gross.

I mean look at what trading Hossa or Kovi cost those teams. You want to give up MORE for this guy? Come on.

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I would much rather trade for Cody Franson than Zach Bogosian. Franson wouldn't be that hard to get since Nashville has plenty of talent at the D-core and it wouldn't cost us much to get him. Maybe Sturm/Ryder, Hunwick and a mediocre pick or prospect.

Am I totally blowing this out of proportion anyone?

Lucic-Krejci-Horton
Wheeler-Savard-Seguin
Sturm-Bergeron-Caron/Recchi
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Stuart Ference/McQuiad

I can live with that line-up.

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I think Suter and Weber are the untouchables on that d corps. I like Franson a lot
Yeah definitely on Weber. Suter, they should keep, but I don't know, I think a great offer could get him.

What do you know about Blum? How is he at even strength? I thought he'd make the jump from the A this year, but I guess they are working Franson in right now.

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Pass. If its our 1st I would think about it. Toronto's 1st, I mean Ryan Murphy....is too much.

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11-18-2010, 03:11 PM
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You wouldn't do Krejci for ZB straight up, and that Toronto pick + Colborne is potentially worth more in the nhl market than Krejci. Just sayin....

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To me it depends as this is really a long term move. 1st off does Bogosian present more capabilities and value to this team than Colborne + a guy like Murphy? And while we're there, I guess the question would be, how high do we believe that pick will be?

Additionally, do we think that 1. Seguin will continue to be a center or will he slide to wing and 2. will Savard return and in what form will he be going forward?

Colborne in many minds is another potential top line center and he's started to pick it up at the AHL level. If Savard were not to return to form or let's say (and god forbid) retire prematurely, Colborne does present another offensively gifted center option (and one that has some size though he has to still add weight). And Savard and Krejci being down should make it very clear that this organization requires top performers in that position in order to succeed.

In my mind I would be very hesitant to move both of those cards in one move. I don't have enough insight into Bogosian's game to say yes or no on the deal, but any deal including the two I would be extremely cautious with as it does impact our future significantly.

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11-18-2010, 03:12 PM
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Toronto's 1st is off limit with were the Leafs look to be headed.

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11-18-2010, 03:15 PM
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Toronto's 1st is off limit with were the Leafs look to be headed.
We need NJ to hopefully turn it around tonight vs the Leafs, I agree we better not trade that TOR pick because it might be another top 5 pick.

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I'm trying to figure out why Atlanta gives up on Bogo.

Wealth of high end D? Nope.
Colborne a sure fire superstar? Nope.
Center being an organizational weakness? Nope. (Antropov, Peverly, Little, Burmistrov, Cormier, Esposito)

The only reason I can see that they'd do it would be to draft in Toronto's spot, but that's kind of a wild card no? Sexy to the fanbase, not so sexy to a GM that's put good money into a damn solid young defensive prospect.

I honestly don't think Atlanta touches it with a 10 foot poll. We want Bogo, we're talking Seguin imo, and no tanks on that one.

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11-18-2010, 03:16 PM
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nope....not enticing enough. ZB is interesting, but he has not blossomed to what his projections were. If it were just colborne.....then maybe.
TO's #1 is far too valuable and can easily obtain a plyer of ZB caliber or better.

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