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11-21-2010, 11:32 AM
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Why the Bruins miss dennis wideman

April 13, 2008- marc savard playoff OT goal vs Habs
April 26, 2010- Miro Satan playoff game 6 clinching goal vs buffalo
May 1, 2010- marc savard playoff OT goal game 1 vs flyers

Who had the 1st assist on all of those goals?
answer: Dennis Wideman
- in the goal in OT vs the habs wideman took it on the nearside slot from the point and a hard backhand pass perfect to savard with an open net, he wont miss
- in the goal against buffalo wideman made a great pass from the half-wall, almost perfect pass and satan finished it
- vs the flyers he made a great pinch and got the puck to savard who did the rest

-wideman yes wasnt the most defensivly sound, but he had the great passing instinct, and spead and agility to be that puck moving the dman the bs need
-the bruins to go far in the playoffs need to go out and get a puck moving defensman to make plays like these, whether doing it by dumping players with heavy cap like wheeler or ryder, or just by making a move, they need to get a puck moving dman(steve Yandle comes to mind) and they should do it without dumping one of their 4 star centers(including seguin and savard) because those guys are the heart of the team that will make the plays for this team in the playoffs


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11-21-2010, 11:41 AM
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April 13, 2008- marc savard playoff OT goal vs Habs
April 26, 2010- Miro Satan playoff game 6 clinching goal vs buffalo
May 1, 2010- marc savard playoff OT goal game 1 vs flyers

Who had the 1st assist on all of those goals?
answer: Dennis Wideman
- in the goal in OT vs the habs wideman took it on the nearside slot from the point and a hard backhand pass perfect to savard with an open net, he wont miss
- in the goal against buffalo wideman made a great pass from the half-wall, almost perfect pass and satan finished it
- vs the flyers he made a great pinch and got the puck to savard who did the rest

-wideman yes wasnt the most defensivly sound, but he had the great passing instinct, and spead and agility to be that puck moving the dman the bs need
-the bruins to go far in the playoffs need to go out and get a puck moving defensman to make plays like these, whether doing it by dumping players with heavy cap like wheeler or ryder, or just by making a move, they need to get a puck moving dman(steve Yandle comes to mind) and they should do it without dumping one of their 4 star centers(including seguin and savard) because those guys are the heart of the team that will make the plays for this team in the playoffs
understatement of the century. i've been pushing the PMD bandwagon, but c'mon, Wideman's offense did not nearly make up for his defensive play

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11-21-2010, 11:49 AM
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understatement of the century. i've been pushing the PMD bandwagon, but c'mon, Wideman's offense did not nearly make up for his defensive play
Not last year, but it surely did the previous two years.

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11-21-2010, 11:53 AM
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Not last year, but it surely did the previous two years.
my point was merley to show the bruins need a puck moving defenseman, hopefully a young one(like Yandle) and one with pretty good defense, matt hunwick was suposed to be that guy, but he is now a smaller sit back dman. the bruins should go out and get one, im not a wideman fan, i loved the wideman trade, loved it but the bruins have that one hole on defense that in some games could cost them in the neutral zone, chara has tried to move the puck more, and hes great at it, but there needs to be someone else

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11-21-2010, 11:55 AM
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Not last year, but it surely did the previous two years.
he also was playing alongside a Norris winner, Chara is good enough in his own zone to be able to cover to for two guys. Chara had an ok season last year and Wideman **** the bed. guy was single handily costing the Bruins games.

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Wideman looked awesome when he played next to Chara

Boychuk looked awesome last year - playing next to Chara

Ference has looked very good this year - playing next to CHara

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my point was merley to show the bruins need a puck moving defenseman, hopefully a young one(like Yandle) and one with pretty good defense, matt hunwick was suposed to be that guy, but he is now a smaller sit back dman. the bruins should go out and get one, im not a wideman fan, i loved the wideman trade, loved it but the bruins have that one hole on defense that in some games could cost them in the neutral zone, chara has tried to move the puck more, and hes great at it, but there needs to be someone else
Easier said than done.

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he also was playing alongside a Norris winner, Chara is good enough in his own zone to be able to cover to for two guys. Chara had an ok season last year and Wideman **** the bed. guy was single handily costing the Bruins games.
yeah agreed but im not complementing wideman, i am pointing out situations that a puck moving defensman won them games... another goal where this is true is the reechi goal(2nd goal) in the buffalo game 6 game

get yandle is my point--> Keith Yandle is young, fast, and a good passer

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Wideman looked awesome when he played next to Chara

Boychuk looked awesome last year - playing next to Chara

Ference has looked very good this year - playing next to CHara
Yep...it's amazing how much we take Zdeno for granted....the Bruins have been about the best defensive team in hockey for the past 3 seasons.

It's pretty clear that Chara is healthier right now than he was for most of last season....and he has been flat out dominant.

Although Wideman played his best when he was with Ference...Chara was with Ward in 08-09.

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he also was playing alongside a Norris winner, Chara is good enough in his own zone to be able to cover to for two guys. Chara had an ok season last year and Wideman **** the bed. guy was single handily costing the Bruins games.
Except Wideman didn't pair with Chara in 08-09, Wideman's best year. Chara paired primarily with Ward that season.

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Yep...it's amazing how much we take Zdeno for granted....the Bruins have been about the best defensive team in hockey for the past 3 seasons.

It's pretty clear that Chara is healthier right now than he was for most of last season....and he has been flat out dominant.
uuuhh... dont wanna start anything but Chara has been pretty bad the last few weeks.

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uuuhh... dont wanna start anything but Chara has been pretty bad the last few weeks.
dont wana start anything? chara has been very good, especially ofensivly... did u see him last night he led to the bruins second goal because he kept pushing, then made good rotations

he also shut down anze kopitar... and dustin brown

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uuuhh... dont wanna start anything but Chara has been pretty bad the last few weeks.
Well, that's a credibility killer.

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Yep...it's amazing how much we take Zdeno for granted....the Bruins have been about the best defensive team in hockey for the past 3 seasons.

It's pretty clear that Chara is healthier right now than he was for most of last season....and he has been flat out dominant.

Although Wideman played his best when he was with Ference...Chara was with Ward in 08-09.
true-- shut down, ovechiken, kessel, kopitar and brown, gaborik and dubinsky, kovalchuck, and he shut down alfredson and spezza(on the ice mostly with spezza but still)

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Well, that's a credibility killer.
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Well, that's a credibility killer.
What credibility?

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dont wana start anything? chara has been very good, especially ofensivly... did u see him last night he led to the bruins second goal because he kept pushing, then made good rotations

he also shut down anze kopitar... and dustin brown
his offense has been surprisingly better than his defensive play and he did have a great shift that led to the 2nd goal, but go back and look at the past GDT's and look at the criticism, he's been very un-Chara like the last few weeks. taking a lot of penalties, make bad pinches, stepping up at the wrong time, misplaying pucks, in short a lot guys a getting thru him and that's something you just dont see from him

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Hmmm, Wideman and his consistently horrific giveaways, or a sniper who`s playing great and IMO, when Savvy returns will only get better, and a 4th line centerman who`s done absolutely nothing but play exceptionally consistent and has been fantastic on the PK.


I`ll take the latter of the two scenarios despite the obvious that Wides could skate, and when his head was on straight, he was good, unfortunately, 75-80% of the time, he killed this team.

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Anyway, we definitely miss Wideman on the PP and the breakout. Horton has been better than expected, but when you add an asset like that, you have to sacrifice something else, and there are going to be times this season when not having a puck moving D-man will haunt us.

Hopefully when Chiarelli makes his cap-complying trades, he can find d-man like that somewhere. Of course, then we'd be missing what Wheeler or Ryder or whoever he ends up trading brings to the table(but I still feel at this point PMD is a higher priority than those two guys, as long as whoever we get is the same quality).

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Wideman looked awesome when he played next to Chara

Boychuk looked awesome last year - playing next to Chara

Ference has looked very good this year - playing next to CHara
One of these things is not like the other.

Wideman looked his best playing next to Ference in 08-09 and playing next to Hunwick in the playoffs last year.

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we do miss wideman on penalty breakout and other areas, which is why they should go out and get a defensivly sound puck moving dman

chara has been taking not that many penalties
yes more than usual, but he hasnt been awefull, plus if uve watched those all werent bad penaltys, the one last night was unlucky

he is still a shut down defensman--> see my last post of who he has shut down

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the real test is tommorow vs stamkos.. not a winger will be all over the ice, not just next to chara so we will see how he does

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yeah agreed but im not complementing wideman, i am pointing out situations that a puck moving defensman won them games... another goal where this is true is the reechi goal(2nd goal) in the buffalo game 6 game

get yandle is my point--> Keith Yandle is young, fast, and a good passer
The Coyotes already stated that Yandle is part of their future plans, and have no intention on moving him. That rumor was washed out about a month ago.

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The Coyotes already stated that Yandle is part of their future plans, and have no intention on moving him. That rumor was washed out about a month ago.
ok then someone like yandle

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What credibility?
funny cuz it's true. i'm just waiting for him to call chara an oversized chooch and we'll come full circle.

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