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11-21-2010, 12:32 PM
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Wideman's offense was overrated too. How many times did he turn the puck over in the offensive zone, negating a possible scoring chance?

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11-21-2010, 12:34 PM
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Wideman's offense was overrated too. How many times did he turn the puck over in the offensive zone, negating a possible scoring chance?
Love it, only a few rare players can still get verbally hammered as much when in a different uniform as they were when they were wearing a Bruin jersey.

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11-21-2010, 12:36 PM
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Having Wideman on this team.................. was like running with lit stick of dynamite in your hand ................. if you don't get rid of it ................. it will blow your arm off. Yes we miss his pm skills. But he was so painful when he gave away that same freaking puck ! Give it sometime ................ the Bruins Brass will do what's right and get a PMD that we could use right now.

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11-21-2010, 12:40 PM
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Seriously, though. Can people stop calling Wideman a puck-moving defenseman? There's big difference between an offensive dman and a PMD. Wideman's biggest flaw was turning the puck over (i.e. not being able to move it well). He was offensive minded (but not always good offensively last year) but he isn't a PMD.

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Having Wideman on this team.................. was like running with lit stick of dynamite in your hand ................. if you don't get rid of it ................. it will blow your arm off. Yes we miss his pm skills. But he was so painful when he gave away that same freaking puck ! Give it sometime ................ the Bruins Brass will do what's right and get a PMD that we could use right now.
Great, thanks for the lead in to another thread screaming for a PMD Lordstanley, haha, I`m a little confused about referring to Wides as PMD, he had offensive talents, but a PMD?? Sorry, if he were on the market as a FA, would you see teams looking and viewing him as a pure PMD? Not me.

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We do miss Wideman, he is having a good year. But I think Horton brings more to the Bruins to overshadow the void left by Wideman, who when good was a difference maker in Boston.

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11-21-2010, 12:59 PM
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We do miss Wideman, he is having a good year. But I think Horton brings more to the Bruins to overshadow the void left by Wideman, who when good was a difference maker in Boston.
Let`s not discount the solid play of Campbell either finchster, someone who I knew little about, I have been even more impressed with his game.

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11-21-2010, 01:00 PM
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Wideman looked awesome when he played next to Chara

Boychuk looked awesome last year - playing next to Chara

Ference has looked very good this year - playing next to CHara
Bingo! Chara could probably make me look OK out there playing next to him. Ok, maybe that's a stretch, but it shouldn't really surprise anyone that his playing partner often looks really good.

On a related note, Chara has really been aggressive in the offensive zone lately, and has looked good doing it. He's actually impressed me with his stickhandling skills on a couple of occasions. I think there are plenty of areas where he doesn't get the props he deseerves.

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11-21-2010, 01:05 PM
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Wideman looked awesome when he played next to Chara

Boychuk looked awesome last year - playing next to Chara

Ference has looked very good this year - playing next to CHara
Wideman almost never played with Chara. He was always in the middle pairing. In fact though he probably should have, it would have overloaded one pairing but that would have been a heck of a duo. I wanted him paired with Manchuk last year to take advantage of JB's shot but they kept pairing him with Hunwick instead which only exposed the worst of Wideman defensively. Never figured that one out.

Honestly Wideman wasn't that bad defensively for an offense guy. Not nearly as bad as his LF reputation. He was a guy who could make mistakes, sure, and that's remembered by the LF, but they were the exception, the rule was a guy who actually had some very good skills on defense, a very good shot blocker and not bad positionally. A PMD who you can put on the penalty kill without embarrassing yourself is rarer than you'd think. He couldn't skate well and was accident prone and those are always going to be remembered rather than the other, because this is the LF after all, but if he was as bad as the fans here think Julien would never have iced him as often as he did, that's for darn sure.

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Great, thanks for the lead in to another thread screaming for a PMD Lordstanley, haha, I`m a little confused about referring to Wides as PMD, he had offensive talents, but a PMD?? Sorry, if he were on the market as a FA, would you see teams looking and viewing him as a pure PMD? Not me.
I never said he was a pure PMD ! ............... I said that we do miss some of his skills with moving the puck ................. we most definately do not miss his apple turnovers in our defensive end. ODATT ............... I usually agree with most of your postings. I'am not the bad guy and I'am not here to complain over issues of the past that mean **** to me. Have a great day !

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11-21-2010, 03:00 PM
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Do we miss Wideman? NO

Do I wish he were on the team? YES

Did we need to trade him/1st to get Horton / Campbell? YES

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11-21-2010, 03:29 PM
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Do we miss Wideman? NO

Do I wish he were on the team? YES

Did we need to trade him/1st to get Horton / Campbell? YES



So glad we did this, finally we have the legit first RW to replace Kessel.

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talk about grasping at loose straws @ OP here...

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11-21-2010, 03:47 PM
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We don't miss Wideman at all, period.

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11-21-2010, 03:58 PM
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This team needs a guy that can solidify the 2nd pairing. Whether it be a offensive, defensive, or puck moving defenseman, I don't believe it matters a whole lot. We need a guy that makes us confident that every time our 2nd pairing goes over the boards we're gonna get a good, solid, shift that keeps our momentum going.

IMO this is exactly what Wideman did in 08-09. Last year he didn't.

I think I understand what the OP is getting at, but bringing Wideman into it brings way to much emotional baggage to result in a meaningful discussion.

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11-21-2010, 04:21 PM
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Why the Bruins miss Dennis Wideman
No doubt we miss his passing ability. None of our present defensemen can match him in his ability to make a long breakout pass.

If the Panthers had any forwards who could finish, they'd be a good team.

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11-21-2010, 04:42 PM
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Moreover if we'd had any forwards who could finish, Wideman wouldn't have looked nearly as bad as he did last year. He still wouldn't have been on 08-09 form, but a few more chances getting buried by the forwards radically alters Wideman's stock and possibly gets him out of his slump earlier.

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No doubt we miss his passing ability. None of our present defensemen can match him in his ability to make a long breakout pass.

If the Panthers had any forwards who could finish, they'd be a good team.
Boychuk, Chara, Seidenberg are all very adept at long passes though

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Everytime I see Nate wire one top shelf I'm happy Wideman is gone.

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11-21-2010, 05:29 PM
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Everytime I see Nate wire one top shelf I'm happy Wideman is gone.
I like Horton too, but I'd also like to see a defenseman on our blue line who can pass like Wideman.

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11-21-2010, 06:38 PM
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Even if you love Wideman, you're lying if you say you don't like that trade, but that doesn't mean Wideman's skillset wouldn't be very valuable to this team now.

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Even if you love Wideman, you're lying if you say you don't like that trade, but that doesn't mean Wideman's skillset wouldn't be very valuable to this team now.
Hunwick.











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Its obvious we miss his passing ability

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Its obvious we miss his passing ability
Ok, but you can't just isolate one particular skill of a player and ignore the rest of him. I don't miss the giveaways, I don't miss watching him fall over his own feet, I don't miss him missing the net by an average of 10 feet a shot. And maybe this is the fault of Julien, but I sure don't miss seeing him on the ice with Hunwick, because that was a joke at times what they were doing on the defensive end. The guy was a total Jekyll and Hyde last year, I guess it's the good Wideman we miss, because the bad one was pretty bad.

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Can we please stop the Wideman discussions. We know that Dojii and his friends love him and believe he was an asset, last year. I wish him well in FL, but I never want him back.

Can we please never mention you-know-whose name again? Thank you.

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