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Looking Back at the Brian Boyle trade

View Poll Results: What's your view on the Boyle trade?
Good trade for us 136 97.84%
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03-15-2011, 09:03 PM
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Looking Back at the Brian Boyle trade

Safe to say that the majority of us didn't like the Boyle trade, and many of us didn't pencil him in our starting lineup when TC rolled around. After the season he's had to this point has your opinion changed?

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03-15-2011, 09:08 PM
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Obviously it is a good trade for us. We did not give up much.

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03-15-2011, 09:10 PM
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Who didn't like the Brian Boyle trade? I don't remember much angst around these boards concerning that trade. We traded a 3rd round pick for a guy drafted in the first round.

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Who didn't like the Brian Boyle trade? I don't remember much angst around these boards concerning that trade. We traded a 3rd round pick for a guy drafted in the first round.
A lot of people were pretty pissed after he did nothing last year.

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03-15-2011, 09:12 PM
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A lot of people were pretty pissed after he did nothing last year.
Yeah, people thought giving up a third for a fourth line player was a bad trade. Brooks consistently killed Sather over that move as well.

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A lot of people were pretty pissed after he did nothing last year.
Those are probably the people that consistently overrate the value of draft picks.

Anyway, obviously the trade has worked out well. Everyone knew he had the ability, I thought he even showed flashes last year. I'd still like to see Torts give him a chance in front of the goalie on the PP.

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All hail thy Barb. Saved his career.

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Softest big man in the league..
3rd for him is no biggie tho.
upgrade over Betts as our 4th line Center which is where he will stay.

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Who was traded for me again?

Oh, and hell yes, absolute steal. A 3rd rounder for a 20 goal, 6'7 defensive beast. Yes please.

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Who didn't like the Brian Boyle trade? I don't remember much angst around these boards concerning that trade. We traded a 3rd round pick for a guy drafted in the first round.

I was 1 of the people who didnt like the trade at the time. Thought that was an overpayment for a guy who was going to be nothing more than a 4th liner.

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Nearly everyone didn't like the trade at the time..no one liked it after his season last year. Obviously now it's a good trade no matter what he does. He scored 20 goals for us..likely more than that 3rd rounder ever would.

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I was 1 of the people who didnt like the trade at the time. Thought that was an overpayment for a guy who was going to be nothing more than a 4th liner.
What percentage of 3rd rounders even get to be consistent 4th liners in the NHL? I guarantee it's not very high.

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What percentage of 3rd rounders even get to be consistent 4th liners in the NHL? I guarantee it's not very high.


That's true but I'd rather take a flyer on high risk high reward player in 3rd round than get a guy like Boyle. He was garbage with Kings and absolute garbage with Rangers in his 1st season. Glad I was wrong though.

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I'm taking credit for liking this trade, from the moment it was made until now.

Always was a fan of Boyle. Kicked ass in NHL 2k9, too. When we made the trade at the draft I was pretty happy.

It's a 3rd rounder ffs. We don't even know if it would become a mediocre 4th liner like Boyle was.

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03-15-2011, 09:37 PM
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I had this article in the back of my mind when this trade happened. It took me a while to find it again. This article was put out on June 22, 2009, a couple of days before we acquired Boyle. I guess this is part of the reason why I had no problem with the trade at the time:

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/20...-that-great-at

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So 40% of first round picks have gone on to play more than 200 games. 24% of 1st and 2nd round picks go on to play in 200 games. After that, only 5.5% do. That’s 1 in 20 players. It’s not quite a crap shoot, but it’s pretty damn close. Put another way, for every 20 post-third round draft picks traded away, only one of them will go on to play 200+ games in the NHL.

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Softest big man in the league..
3rd for him is no biggie tho.
upgrade over Betts as our 4th line Center which is where he will stay.
I agree he will stay in the 4th line role, but having a 20 goal scorer as a 4th liner, I do not care how tough he is. He is not as soft as people think. He just plays next to prust who, pound for pound, is one of the toughest around.

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That's true but I'd rather take a flyer on high risk high reward player in 3rd round than get a guy like Boyle. He was garbage with Kings and absolute garbage with Rangers in his 1st season. Glad I was wrong though.
imagine if that 3rd round pick Jordan Weal turns out to be a good player..


http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=110234

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imagine if that 3rd round pick Jordan Weal turns out to be a good player..


http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=110234
He's 5'8 158 pounds.

I'll take the newly physical power forward 20g scoring Boyle every time (as long Boyle stays as this Boyle.)

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That's true but I'd rather take a flyer on high risk high reward player in 3rd round than get a guy like Boyle. He was garbage with Kings and absolute garbage with Rangers in his 1st season. Glad I was wrong though.
Wasn't trading for Boyle the very definition of high risk/high reward? The guy was already an NHL player, even if only a mediocre-at-best 4th liner. I fail to see the logic of being upset over a trade like that and I've failed to see it ever since I read the first complaint about it. It's a third round pick and worth substantially less than Boyle was even at that point in his career.

Of course, now the guy looks like a legitimate first round selection, so this whole discussion is moot.

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Softest big man in the league..
3rd for him is no biggie tho.
upgrade over Betts as our 4th line Center which is where he will stay.
Softest? Maybe last year. Boyle has played with quite an edge for the majority of this season.

Can't see anyone voting no in this poll.

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03-16-2011, 12:01 AM
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Softest? Maybe last year. Boyle has played with quite an edge for the majority of this season.

Can't see anyone voting no in this poll.


Dont mind him. That's the same guy who wants Boyle fighting heavyweights on nightly basis simply because he's 6'7.

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lol i accidentally voted bad instead of good. i fail >.<

boyle has been a great surprise

i hope he keeps his play up next season 2

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I thought boyle was gonna be a bust, but I didn't think we really overpaid at the time (and this was BEFORE this season's performance).

A 3rd really IS NOT MUCH... How many 3rd liners ever amount to anything?

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I knew it couldn't be worse than a third rounder for Ozolinsh.

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It's just too bad that we're stacked at the wings and lacking at center, because frankly, Boyle would be a great power forward playing wing, just like Dubi improved his offensive game. I'm not kidding if I believe Boyle could be a legit 2nd winger with some more experience, confidence and general improvement.

As a 3rd line winger with a sneaky shot, he would be great.


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